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July 29, 2011, 01:16:13 AM
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What is the Best Safest Easiest Most Trustworthy Web-based Wallet for Non-Technical People....for somewhat large amounts of bitcoin?


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July 29, 2011, 01:34:57 AM
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I have been with MyBitcoin for at least six months and have had no trouble with them.

P.S. I know my reputation isn't much but I've actually been on the forum for a long time, I just don't post much.

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July 29, 2011, 01:37:19 AM
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I guess I should have specified....    Other than MyBitcoin....
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July 29, 2011, 02:01:45 AM
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at this point i do not think i would classify any web based bitcoin service as "safe". only until i know they will back losses causes by their faults will i consider such a service to be safe.

you are best off running a ubuntu live cd and making an offline wallet that has never had contact to the web. just be sure you back up that wallet file to multiple flash drives.

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July 29, 2011, 02:08:37 AM
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I hope under will emerge a competitor to my bitcoin. Our they change their policy concerning password resets via mail


I mean no mail at all? C• Mon

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July 29, 2011, 02:29:42 AM
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Use mtgox.com and a yubikey.

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July 29, 2011, 02:31:04 AM
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Use mtgox.com and a yubikey.

Do you still trust mt. gox after they acted like paypal and reversed all transactions done for a certain amount of time for nothing.

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July 29, 2011, 02:44:07 AM
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Use mtgox.com and a yubikey.

Do you still trust mt. gox after they acted like paypal and reversed all transactions done for a certain amount of time for nothing.

Yes. Do you still torture kittens for fun (like Satan)?

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July 29, 2011, 03:29:24 AM
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Use mtgox.com and a yubikey.

Do you still trust mt. gox after they acted like paypal and reversed all transactions done for a certain amount of time for nothing.

Yes. Do you still torture kittens for fun (like Satan)?

yes(never have)

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July 29, 2011, 03:31:20 AM
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Not sure about safest, but instawallet has got to be the easiest.
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July 29, 2011, 04:00:59 AM
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Not sure about safest, but instawallet has got to be the easiest.

I just don't like the fact that the URL is the password to all your money.
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July 29, 2011, 04:03:16 AM
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Why not just generate a keypair with any utility that can do so, and keep it on a piece of paper?

Utilities that can generate keypairs include vanitygen and a Bitcoin Address Calculator utility I released (as source code only).  There's also a Linux shell script called "BOTG" (Bitcoins Off The Grid) that generates a keypair using OpenSSL.  Of course, you probably already know I sell pre-generated Paper Bitcoin Wallets.  And BitBills is apparently selling a "bank card" which is pretty much the same thing, just engraved on a metal card instead of a piece of paper.

Obviously the generation and redemption is not trivial for a non-techie, but the maintenance of it is.  He just has to keep his piece of paper hidden away.  If the non-techie merely wants to hold BTC, it may suffice.

Eventually one of these exchanges are going to wise up and allow you to make deposits by typing in a Bitcoin private key.

Companies claiming they got hacked and lost your coins sounds like fraud so perfect it could be called fashionable.  I never believe them.  If I ever experience the misfortune of a real intrusion, I declare I have been honest about the way I have managed the keys in Casascius Coins.  I maintain no ability to recover or reproduce the keys, not even under limitless duress or total intrusion.  Remember that trusting strangers with your coins without any recourse is, as a matter of principle, not a best practice.  Don't keep coins online. Use paper wallets instead.
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July 29, 2011, 04:05:49 AM
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now that i think more into the situation
http://bitcoinjs.org/
That online wallet solution may or may not be working, but if you get a techie friend of yours to host it for you, then you are in luck, else you could try getting someone on the forums to try, that is if the code is mature enough to even run. i can not be too sure about security either, but the concept is good because the server never sees your private keys, so security may not even be an issue on the server side.

more info

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTmFwnIRG9c

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July 29, 2011, 04:16:30 AM
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What is the Best Safest Easiest Most Trustworthy Web-based Wallet for Non-Technical People....for somewhat large amounts of bitcoin?

I am *convinced* that bootable usb Linuxcoin (with a a simple system around how you use it and back it up) is far better than any bank, safe, mattress, deep hole in the woods/desert, or any combination thereof, could ever be.

Feel like investing in a Miner?:
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=30044.msg377773#msg377773
A soup to nuts newbee system for a secure, portable USB wallet (free instructions):
NoobHowTo: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27088.msg341387#msg341387
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July 29, 2011, 04:53:54 AM
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Where can I get that Linuxcoin?
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July 29, 2011, 05:42:53 AM
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Where can I get that Linuxcoin?

In my Sig under "NoobHowTo:", free. Or you can search here in the forum.

IMO He done *great*!


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http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=7374.0

Feel like investing in a Miner?:
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=30044.msg377773#msg377773
A soup to nuts newbee system for a secure, portable USB wallet (free instructions):
NoobHowTo: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27088.msg341387#msg341387
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July 29, 2011, 06:27:08 AM
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What is the Best Safest Easiest Most Trustworthy Web-based Wallet for Non-Technical People....for somewhat large amounts of bitcoin?

I am *convinced* that bootable usb Linuxcoin (with a a simple system around how you use it and back it up) is far better than any bank, safe, mattress, deep hole in the woods/desert, or any combination thereof, could ever be.

it's not easy.

If you see any of my suggestions useful, please donate me. http://btc.to/ec
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July 29, 2011, 07:09:21 AM
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What is the Best Safest Easiest Most Trustworthy Web-based Wallet for Non-Technical People....for somewhat large amounts of bitcoin?

I am *convinced* that bootable usb Linuxcoin (with a a simple system around how you use it and back it up) is far better than any bank, safe, mattress, deep hole in the woods/desert, or any combination thereof, could ever be.

it's not easy.

Nothing of true value ever is ever "easy". He asked for "Easiest". 8^)

Feel like investing in a Miner?:
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=30044.msg377773#msg377773
A soup to nuts newbee system for a secure, portable USB wallet (free instructions):
NoobHowTo: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27088.msg341387#msg341387
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July 29, 2011, 11:26:49 AM
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Creating a bootable USB system is not easy.

Even booting from a USB is not easy.

Do we really expect Fred and Marge from Toledo, the barely can work a mouse crowd, to be able to do that?
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July 29, 2011, 12:44:46 PM
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Not sure about safest, but instawallet has got to be the easiest.

I just don't like the fact that the URL is the password to all your money.


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we are creating a viable option which will attempt to address these types of issues.
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