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April 06, 2018, 11:56:10 PM
Last edit: April 07, 2018, 12:18:20 AM by figmentofmyass
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i'm not sure about the veracity of this commentary or the details of the article, but this was apparently published by polish government-owned media, so i won't immediately dismiss it as FUD. but it could be FUD.

the connections to bitfinex are unconfirmed as yet. however, the circumstances (like polish shell companies) and the dollar value of funds seized point to bitfinex more than any other exchange. the article clearly states that the shell companies are associated with a cryptocurrency exchange.

original article
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some discussion/commentary

according to NullZeroX:
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Crypto sp.zoo is likely bitfinex owned company - because users had to send money to this company (i posted screenshot). The article mentions "C" owned by panama resident, you check owner of this company using public registry.

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The "C" company which the article mentions is Crypto sp.z.o.o (limited liability company). Here is article written when bitfinex entered Poland with it's shell company.

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The entire story might not be as bad as it sounds. It appears that someone tried to cash out stolen money using btc and bitfinex. The narco thing might be just because of bad connections of the guy setting up shell companies for multiple people (bitfinex too). More info below.

Money flow from article: ministry belgium scammed for money -> sent to X company -> prosecutors find connection (transfer???) to "C" company -> prosecutors seize X and C company money. So possible that someone made a scam attempt and fiat->btc cashout to finex attempt.

If the panama guy is typical mule then yea he could have gotten a lot of bad connections for setting up hundreds of companies abroad. Article says about "narco" connections, but he might had bad luck and setup company for wrong people... that's how it got connected to narcotics.

So in such case, there's a chance that instead of seizing money from scam ONLY (which has been sent to bfx shell company "C" in stolenfiat2btc attempt) - The prosecutors decided to seize all of bitfinex money. This is typical to this governament.

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Colombian cartels washed hundreds of millions through the companies from Pruszków and the surrounding area

A billion PLN 270 million taken over in March by the CBŚP prosecutor's office is most likely the money belonging to Colombian drug cartels - according to informer tvp.info. It is known that the money was on the accounts of two companies from the vicinity of Pruszków, which were owned by a Canadian-born Panamanian descent and a Colombian with the citizenship of Panama. One of these companies was a shareholder of an online cryptocurrency exchange office. Millions of such operations were to flow through a small cooperative bank in Lodz.

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While checking the connections of this company, investigators came across another company - C. At its head stood a man with citizenship of Colombia and Panama. This, in turn, the company was associated with a large online cantor exchange of cryptocurrencies. Both companies had over PLN 270 million deposited on their accounts.

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The companies were also used for large scale scams. Criminals have hidden their operations, also exchanging money for cryptocurrencies, obliterating traces - says the TVp.info interlocutor.

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Investigators determined that both companies did not actually carry out any economic activity. They were created solely to share your bank accounts with international criminal financial operations.

.......good news for bitcoin? Cheesy

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April 07, 2018, 02:25:36 AM
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There is more stuff from the Polish government. And it looks bad.

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Ministry of Finances has just published an announcement, which can cause massive bankrupties or even suicides of people trading cryptos (especially those day-trading).

From buying/selling capital of 15000 dollars worth of cryptocurrency, you can pay even 500,000 dollars tax or more. Sounds completely unrealistic ? Yet it is the state of reality in Poland now.

Sources:

1, 2, 3

Oh by the way for those that didn't know: in Poland the IRS has a time machine. For them, the law works even back in time. I am serious. They don't change the law, they just change the interpretation which can reverse their previous decisions even 10 years back in time.

I know you guys cannot do anything about this, but maybe giving the topic some publicity abroad could help our case. Our government is usually only concerned when it is massively criticized from all sides.

If we don't do anything soon, this will go into law and cryptocurrency trading (or even using it) could case to exist in our country.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/8advis/guys_polish_government_has_just_destroyed_all/

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April 07, 2018, 02:38:56 AM
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better the polish government than the US government. when it's the US government, everyone gets fucked.

another article released today in the polish media---this one mentions bitfinex specifically: https://www.spidersweb.pl/2018/04/zbigniew-ziobro-bitfinex-prokuratura.html

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One of the largest and most controversial cryptocurrency exchanges Bitfinex received a big blow today in Poland - PLN 1.3 billion at the Cooperative Bank in Skierniewice was seized by the prosecutor's office. The money is to be linked through the Bitfineks network of companies and the Colombian drug trade.

Online investigations linking companies with accounts at the Cooperative Bank in Skierniewice with Bitfineks appeared already last year. Bitfinex is controversial - this stock market has long been suspected of speculating cryptocurrency prices and pumping bubbles. US regulators are also researching the Tether currency created by Bitfinex, which is related to the value of the one-to-one dollar and is used to buy other crypts.

On April 6, 2018, Zbigniew Ziobro was successful in taking $ 270 million. associated with fraud, people whose names appeared in Panama Papers and companies that are pillars of the "large foreign cryptocurrency market". The accounts were to be located in a small Polish bank.

Our unofficial information shows that it is about Bitfinex. The Polish prosecutor's office has not raised any charges yet, and due to the international dimension of the case, the Central Investigation Office cooperates with Europol and Interpol.

from another reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/8ad509/polish_authorities_has_seized_almost_400_mln_eur/
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One week ago Polish bitfinex users interrogated by Polish police - https://forum.bitcoin.pl/viewtopic.php?f=79&t=28309&p=472711#p472711

how much of a threat is the polish government to bitfinex (how much fiat money was stored in polish banks)? how much of the 400M EUR belonged to them? stay tuned.... Undecided

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April 07, 2018, 01:39:10 PM
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It's quite plausible, that it's bitfinex account/s, or at least it was one of their shell companies account, to transfer funds.
Skierniewice are known from mafias connection, so cartels connections wouldn't surprise me at all.
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April 07, 2018, 01:54:54 PM
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Yes, even Pablo Escobar visited Skierniewice twice or three times back in the days.

Or so my aunt told us.
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April 09, 2018, 07:07:57 AM
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It doesn't seem like the story was picked up by major news sources. Probably not enough confirmation of links to Bitfinex.

It was mentioned in Finance Magnates:
Bitfinex is Mixed Up with Colombian Cocaine, Polish Media Reports

And Cointelegraph:
Unconfirmed: Polish Prosecutors Seize €400 mln Amid Allegations Bitfinex Is Implicated In Fraud
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News is emerging of the seizure of €400 mln from an account that is reportedly affiliated with crypto exchange Bitfinex at the Cooperative Bank in Skierniewice, Poland. The investigation is allegedly tied to Colombian drug cartel operations, a local news outlet reported April 6. The report has not yet been officially confirmed or denied by Bitfinex.
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On Polish forum Bitcoin.pl, one Bitfinex user has claimed he was interrogated by Polish police last week: “I testified as a witness regarding the case of Crypto sp z o.o because they sent me money from Bitfinex and their accounts were blocked.”

Today’s reports in Polish media raised the suspicion that there is a connection between Panama registered Crypto sp z o.o (and parent company Crypto Capital Corp.) and narcotics trafficking networks, suggesting that the criminals converted fiat into crypto to cover their tracks.

No charges filed and no confirmation of the links to Bitfinex, though it certainly looks possible. In any case, it does highlight the danger of exchange risk, especially with unlicensed exchanges. Be careful out there!
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