Merit Concern

[YuiAckerman]

This is my concern who are bounty hunters that have starting to blend or earn in this forum and for me also.
Also sorry for making bad at English but I'll try my best to understand what is in my thought.

As of now, many users are down or disappointed in this merit system because lack of attention in the forum, as you can see many users are suffering how to make some constructive post or making a good post to gain some merit and to be ranked up, up to Member or higher than that. As I follow some other ICO's or projects are currently hiring a member ranked or higher that, then what happen to the jr.member? They have been stuck because they trying to give there best to make a constructive post and not giving them an attention.

As I can see the merit system problem is lack of sendable merit, you can earn merit by meriting your post right, then what happen is when that users is not gaining.

Also about who are now in the higher ranked some other users are kind and give some sendable merit to the other users also, but I must say that focus to the users who are posting constructive post or contributer in this forum not the one who are famous users who are merited most.

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[BTCforJoe]

This is my concern who are bounty hunters that have starting to blend or earn in this forum and for me also.
Also sorry for making bad at English but I'll try my best to understand what is in my thought.

As of now, many users are down or disappointed in this merit system because lack of attention in the forum, as you can see many users are suffering how to make some constructive post or making a good post to gain some merit and to be ranked up, up to Member or higher than that. As I follow some other ICO's or projects are currently hiring a member ranked or higher that, then what happen to the jr.member? They have been stuck because they trying to give there best to make a constructive post and not giving them an attention.

As I can see the merit system problem is lack of sendable merit, you can earn merit by meriting your post right, then what happen is when that users is not gaining.

Also about who are now in the higher ranked some other users are kind and give some sendable merit to the other users also, but I must say that focus to the users who are posting constructive post not at all who famous in this forum.

I'm going to be completely honest. I have read your entire post, and I have found nothing substantial about it. You're literally bringing up a discussion that is had DOZENS of times per day. You're not adding anything new, but the fact of the matter is that you're probably going to be offended by reading what I'm writing.

Just because you write a couple of paragraphs clearly doesn't mean that it's a good post. Especially if it's a post about the same repetitive shit that's posted day in and day out. I would honestly take the time to answer your post with some recommendations on how to earn merit, but it's obvious that you haven't even done your own research, so why should I allow you to waste my time?

Come on. Quit being so lazy. Go learn how to earn some merits, and stop whining about how the merit system isn't working.

Edit: I actually don't know what you're trying to say. After re-reading your post, it's not really a whiny one, but rather... You're trying to give advice to others? I actually have no idea what you're trying to say.

[Steamtyme]

As of now, many users are down or disappointed in this merit system because lack of attention in the forum, as you can see many users are suffering how to make some constructive post or making a good post to gain some merit and to be ranked up, up to Member or higher than that. As I follow some other ICO's or projects are currently hiring a member ranked or higher that, then what happen to the jr.member? They have been stuck because they trying to give there best to make a constructive post and not giving them an attention.

The problem doesn't lie in struggling to make constructive posts the problem is in putting forth the effort to learn enough to make a contribution to the forum that people find constructive.
They are free to post in local boards until such a time that the poster can make a coherent English sentence, it doesn't have to be perfect but should get the idea across.
Also if the Junior member is just here to "earn" then they will be stuck where they belong. Earning here is a privilege not a right.

As I can see the merit system problem is lack of sendable merit, you can earn merit by meriting your post right, then what happen is when that users is not gaining.

This is designed to allow the Merit system to outlive it's initial launch. Other than Merit sources you will need to be deemed a quality poster by the community to have the privilege to send out merit. You can always nominate someone else in the threads offering Merit for quality if you really think they deserve it

Also about who are now in the higher ranked some other users are kind and give some sendable merit to the other users also, but I must say that focus to the users who are posting constructive post or contributer in this forum not the one who are famous users who are merited most.

I think you are trying to say that the higher ranked members should be sending Merits to lower ranked members??? If so they do when they feel a post has earned it. They also send it to high ranked members. That's the system at play, if anyone feels a post is "quality" in their mind then they can send Merit.

Edit: I actually don't know what you're trying to say. After re-reading your post, it's not really a whiny one, but rather... You're trying to give advice to others? I actually have no idea what you're trying to say.

I broke it down into parts and went with what I thought they meant. No one but OP really know what they meant and it will probably be a while before they can clearly explain it to us

[botany]

As I follow some other ICO's or projects are currently hiring a member ranked or higher that, then what happen to the jr.member? They have been stuck because they trying to give there best to make a constructive post and not giving them an attention.

Great! This just shows that the merit system is working as intended.
If you are here in this forum purely to try and fleece bounty campaigns, you shouldn't be able to rank up and misuse them.

[Jet Cash]

Great! This just shows that the merit system is working as intended.
If you are here in this forum purely to try and fleece bounty campaigns, you shouldn't be able to rank up and misuse them.

Isn't that the truth?

The problem is not lack of awardable merits, but lack of posts that deserve the awards, or difficulty in finding them.

It is getting better though, and some of the boards have become useful resources.

[Dingdongjl]

I think our problem being newbie is our lack of knowledge in this community and not lack of merit supply. In this situations we cant do anything but to research and try to learn at your best.

I can also say that Im lack of english knowledge but this is the best time to learn more and try harder, just dont lose hope and get the best of yourself. 

[tuanytcc]

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In this situations we cant do anything but to research and try to learn at your best.

I can also say that Im lack of english knowledge but this is the best time to learn more and try harder, just dont lose hope and get the best of yourself.  

I am not sure you are saying the truth or not. Nevertheles, I suspect your words, something like lies to beg for merits from generous users.
I don't care about what you did, and for now I give you the following topic, which started by TMAN (very famous user in the forum) and helpful for you to start learning the forum structures, merit system, and more fundamental things:
TMAN's guide to getting merits

[YuiAckerman]

This is my concern who are bounty hunters that have starting to blend or earn in this forum and for me also.
Also sorry for making bad at English but I'll try my best to understand what is in my thought.

As of now, many users are down or disappointed in this merit system because lack of attention in the forum, as you can see many users are suffering how to make some constructive post or making a good post to gain some merit and to be ranked up, up to Member or higher than that. As I follow some other ICO's or projects are currently hiring a member ranked or higher that, then what happen to the jr.member? They have been stuck because they trying to give there best to make a constructive post and not giving them an attention.

As I can see the merit system problem is lack of sendable merit, you can earn merit by meriting your post right, then what happen is when that users is not gaining.

Also about who are now in the higher ranked some other users are kind and give some sendable merit to the other users also, but I must say that focus to the users who are posting constructive post not at all who famous in this forum.

I'm going to be completely honest. I have read your entire post, and I have found nothing substantial about it. You're literally bringing up a discussion that is had DOZENS of times per day. You're not adding anything new, but the fact of the matter is that you're probably going to be offended by reading what I'm writing.

Just because you write a couple of paragraphs clearly doesn't mean that it's a good post. Especially if it's a post about the same repetitive shit that's posted day in and day out. I would honestly take the time to answer your post with some recommendations on how to earn merit, but it's obvious that you haven't even done your own research, so why should I allow you to waste my time?

Come on. Quit being so lazy. Go learn how to earn some merits, and stop whining about how the merit system isn't working.

Edit: I actually don't know what you're trying to say. After re-reading your post, it's not really a whiny one, but rather... You're trying to give advice to others? I actually have no idea what you're trying to say.

Nah sorry for this, what I am trying to say is help the others users here that are working so hard to earn that merit thing, not the famous just like yeah the other's user here.

 Open an free merited post  just like the others. And also roaming to the other thread that gives us some more information many of the users here are not giving an attention... lately probably

[YuiAckerman]

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In this situations we cant do anything but to research and try to learn at your best.

I can also say that Im lack of english knowledge but this is the best time to learn more and try harder, just dont lose hope and get the best of yourself.  

I am not sure you are saying the truth or not. Nevertheles, I suspect your words, something like lies to beg for merits from generous users.
I don't care about what you did, and for now I give you the following topic, which started by TMAN (very famous user in the forum) and helpful for you to start learning the forum structures, merit system, and more fundamental things:
TMAN's guide to getting merits

Not just like that! I don't beg for a merit thing. I am okay with this... even a jr.member only. My concern is how
Jr.member can earn if they have stuck in this ranked? As I see some rumor here are implementing the full member and up can joined some other projects or ico here. Nor not like that... poor english... for me. Sorry.

[Talk merit]

Nah sorry for this, what I am trying to say is help the others users here that are working so hard to earn that merit thing, not the famous just like yeah the other's user here.

 Open an free merited post  just like the others. And also roaming to the other thread that gives us some more information many of the users here are not giving an attention... lately probably

I don't really understand your post, but what I think you are saying is -

Please help members who are working so hard to reach higher ranks, so that they can spam the boards with their signatures.

Please stop your desperate hunt for merits, and think about how you can help the community, rather than trying to destroy it.

[YuiAckerman]

Nah sorry for this, what I am trying to say is help the others users here that are working so hard to earn that merit thing, not the famous just like yeah the other's user here.

 Open an free merited post  just like the others. And also roaming to the other thread that gives us some more information many of the users here are not giving an attention... lately probably

I don't really understand your post, but what I think you are saying is -

Please help members who are working so hard to reach higher ranks, so that they can spam the boards with their signatures.

Please stop your desperate hunt for merits, and think about how you can help the community, rather than trying to destroy it.

Probably I don't want to hunt some merits here. I'm just wanna say about other higher rank here are silent and easily earning. They have been contented in what they have now. So what about the lower ranked?

This concern is all newbies and jr.member here that they want to earn. If this forum is not for earning then better closed the bounty section right? And i think in the future this forum is more and more to be strict.

Sorry for a low knowlegde in english.

[vlad230]

I am one of the users that were a Jr. Member when the merit system was rolled out so, I got 0 merits by default. At the beginning, I was a bit upset on the system since it favoured the more senior members on this forum whom, in some cases, mainly shit post and do not bring any value to the community.

Recently, I have opened up a post review service to get a better feel on the merit system and the people posting. In this service, I require people to posts their top 3 posts but I also check their post history (I think everyone awarding merit should also check that). You can't imagine the amount of shit posts people did until now and some are still doing it.
The merit system has indeed stopped this nonsense with shit posts & spam but some of them did not get the idea yet so, it might take a bit more time to see the system to it's full glory.

I encourage anyone who doesn't see the benefits of this system to start their own review service.

[DaddyMonsi]

Probably I don't want to hunt some merits here. I'm just wanna say about other higher rank here are silent and easily earning. They have been contented in what they have now. So what about the lower ranked?

This concern is all newbies and jr.member here that they want to earn. If this forum is not for earning then better closed the bounty section right? And i think in the future this forum is more and more to be strict.

Sorry for a low knowlegde in english.

So you mean you registered in this forum because you want to earn through signature campaign and nothing more? There are other ways to earn Bitcoins aside from signature campaigns. You offer services by writing articles for the, design avatars or design signatures. Don't blame the higher ranks because they earned it, if you come in this forum late, its not their fault.

[YuiAckerman]

Probably I don't want to hunt some merits here. I'm just wanna say about other higher rank here are silent and easily earning. They have been contented in what they have now. So what about the lower ranked?

This concern is all newbies and jr.member here that they want to earn. If this forum is not for earning then better closed the bounty section right? And i think in the future this forum is more and more to be strict.

Sorry for a low knowlegde in english.

So you mean you registered in this forum because you want to earn through signature campaign and nothing more? There are other ways to earn Bitcoins aside from signature campaigns. You offer services by writing articles for the, design avatars or design signatures. Don't blame the higher ranks because they earned it, if you come in this forum late, its not their fault.

I know there are other ways to earn more but this bounty is the only that I can do... nothing more and nothing less.

I want to encourage some other higher rank here to make an free merit thing event so that many users here can make constructive post or other else that helps other users.
As I can see few of them are opening that free merit thing event. The circulation of sendable is slow and lack.

[hoangkieu]

Contrasting with what you did. Don't beg for merits, really?

Not just like that! I don't beg for a merit thing. I am okay with this... even a jr.member only.

Your concern (at the moment) should not be how to earn. It should be how to get as much knowledge and necessary skills as possible during the time you spent in the forum.

My concern is how Jr.member can earn if they have stuck in this ranked?

For your interest.
TMAN's guide to getting merits

As I see some rumor here are implementing the full member and up can joined some other projects or ico here. Nor not like that... poor english... for me. Sorry.

[gantez]

This thread is same kind of whining and complaining of how merit has "worked evil" on the forum but have refused to learn and do the right thing.

if you come in this forum late, its not their fault.

Yeap, the early subscribers of the forum seem to be lucky. In fact, very lucky because we still see highly ranked members account that are shit posters, worse than even an unknowledgeable newbie.

[Keanuputra]

Nah sorry for this, what I am trying to say is help the others users here that are working so hard to earn that merit thing, not the famous just like yeah the other's user here.

I think this one should be clear, don't rush your self to create a post for looking the merit , I've been seen this kind words from others so many time. Its mean when you craete a post just for merit, you will fail on it. You just get your post into a shitpost. Sorry to say that. Try to make decent posts and merit will come to you!

[DarkKnightNeverDie]

Nah sorry for this, what I am trying to say is help the others users here that are working so hard to earn that merit thing, not the famous just like yeah the other's user here.

I think this one should be clear, don't rush your self to create a post for looking the merit , I've been seen this kind words from others so many time. Its mean when you craete a post just for merit, you will fail on it. You just get your post into a shitpost. Sorry to say that. Try to make decent posts and merit will come to you!

I have a feeling that both of you come from one person due to same effects you put into two threads. Furthermore, over-used/ abused bold, underlined, italicized, highlighted like this might make readers feel uncomfortable, annoying.
Please avoid over-using them.

Noted: Sorry if my thoughts are wrong about both of you.

[YuiAckerman]

Nah sorry for this, what I am trying to say is help the others users here that are working so hard to earn that merit thing, not the famous just like yeah the other's user here.

I think this one should be clear, don't rush your self to create a post for looking the merit , I've been seen this kind words from others so many time. Its mean when you craete a post just for merit, you will fail on it. You just get your post into a shitpost. Sorry to say that. Try to make decent posts and merit will come to you!

I would not looking for a person or users to merit me. The eff?  
And I probably say this post of mine also a shit!
This post is my concern to work properly the merit system. And not to be stuck.
Back off!

[YuiAckerman]

Nah sorry for this, what I am trying to say is help the others users here that are working so hard to earn that merit thing, not the famous just like yeah the other's user here.

I think this one should be clear, don't rush your self to create a post for looking the merit , I've been seen this kind words from others so many time. Its mean when you craete a post just for merit, you will fail on it. You just get your post into a shitpost. Sorry to say that. Try to make decent posts and merit will come to you!

I have a feeling that both of you come from one person due to same effects you put into two threads. Furthermore, over-used/ abused bold, underlined, italicized, highlighted like this might make readers feel uncomfortable, annoying.
Please avoid over-using them.

Noted: Sorry if my thoughts are wrong about both of you.

Oh... sorry but I am not using that kind of style. Only emoticons. See all post  to prove that.

[Keanuputra]

I have a feeling that both of you come from one person due to same effects you put into two threads. Furthermore, over-used/ abused bold, underlined, italicized, highlighted like this might make readers feel uncomfortable, annoying.
Please avoid over-using them.

Noted: Sorry if my thoughts are wrong about both of you.

I'm not sure that you read all the OP.
actually there is no bold effect anymore from the OP, i just make it bold to hightlight the words that i want talking about. Pls find the all context on my reply.

[Keanuputra]

I would not looking for a person or users to merit me. The eff?  
And I probably say this post of mine also a shit!
This post is my concern to work properly the merit system. And not to be stuck.
Back off!

No, i don't judge you.
I just want to highlight your statement about users are working so hard to earn merit. It's not a good effort if we rush our self to create a post just want to get merit.

[BTCforJoe]

This thread is a fucking train wreck lol.

I’m going to be blunt and throw this out there: You won’t earn a single merit from me or people like me if you don’t take the time or spend the effort to learn English. Before you call me a racist or a bigot, please remember that this is an English-speaking board, and that you are a guest here. It’s a privilege for you to be here, and not a right. So don’t go and treat this like you should have more rights and have a fair chance at earning merits more than other “popular” members... dude, shut up. The reason you’re not receiving merits is because nobody understands you or agrees with you. Apparently, you don’t understand what the merit system is and what it’s designed to do, which is to stop users like you from ranking up.

[Talk merit]

The merit system is obviously a success, but I don't think it can be a solution on it's own. Without incorporating rank into posting abilities, spammers can still flood the board with attempts to gain merit, and to display low value signatures. Until posting on the major boards is restricted to Junior members or above, the pollution will continue. Another useful change would be the locking of threads after useless necro-bumps.

[DarkKnightNeverDie]

Right! merit system can only prevent spammers to move up to higher positions in the forum. And it can not be successful on its own, need to have cooperative factors like merit abusement's reporters, etc.

The merit system is obviously a success, but I don't think it can be a solution on it's own.

there are hundreds of spammers, shitty posters work around shadow places of the forum and show their shits.

Without incorporating rank into posting abilities, spammers can still flood the board with attempts to gain merit, and to display low value signatures.

I don't think so. Everyone should be treated equally.
I don't deny the fact that real newbies have to start from zero, learn everything before matured enough to discuss with higher ranked users in serious issues.
But I think you should spend your precious minutes to think about users, who joined the forum long time ago, knowledgeable, but lost their accounts.
Then they have to (only one option) to create new account) to join the forum again and discuss (or better if help others). Is it really necessary to require them to spend at least 6 months or one year to join serious boards in the forum? Honestly, I don't think it should be like that.

Until posting on the major boards is restricted to Junior members or above, the pollution will continue. Another useful change would be the locking of threads after useless necro-bumps.

[TheQuin]

This thread is a fucking train wreck lol.

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Apparently, you don’t understand what the merit system is and what it’s designed to do, which is to stop users like you from ranking up.

Amen to that. The whole point of Merit is that getting paid to rent out your signature space to advertisers is a privilege that needs to be earned. The spam problems here all stem from when signatures were tied to rank and all anyone had to do to rank up was spam 14 posts every two weeks. Now people have to actually contribute some worthwhile content to the forum to rank up and get a bigger signature.

The merit system is obviously a success, but I don't think it can be a solution on it's own. Without incorporating rank into posting abilities, spammers can still flood the board with attempts to gain merit, and to display low value signatures. Until posting on the major boards is restricted to Junior members or above, the pollution will continue. Another useful change would be the locking of threads after useless necro-bumps.

This might just be my optimistic nature but I think they'll give up and go away after a while. Looking at the number of active accounts on Vod's site it is down to 885,935 and decreasing by the day since Merit was introduced. That's the account farmers that left first and eventually all the ones that came here because they found some blog post about how to earn money on the internet will work out it is too difficult for them.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Two quick points for the newbies:

Firstly, it is always people with 0-10 merits earned who are complaining that the merit system is unfair to them. Has it ever occured to you that that is the entire point? Write better posts and you will earn merit. It's that simple.

Secondly, every one of you who complains about merit or begs for merit is being put on ignore by the vast majority of people who read these threads, and thereby severely hampering your ability to ever receive merit in the future. You are shooting yourselves in the feet without even realising it.

These threads are really getting boring and repetitive now.

[hoangvuthach]

In my opinion, depending on your contribution, in a day on the forum there are thousands of new posts and daily repetitive issues, I think let's create a breakthrough topic. Your posts do not necessarily have many viewers or comments, but when people see them, they feel meaningful because they do not waste time.

[ducdr]

In my opinion, depending on your contribution, in a day on the forum there are thousands of new posts and daily repetitive issues, I think let's create a breakthrough topic. Your posts do not necessarily have many viewers or comments, but when people see them, they feel meaningful because they do not waste time.

What did you imply in those words "I think let's create a breakthrough topic" ?
For basic, essential stuffs, admin and moderators have published pinned topics in each board of the forum. I don't think members in the forum need new feature which allow them to pin their posts (that should be a previledge of admin and moderators).
In addition, discussions should be opened for everyone to join. This is basic charateristic of a discussion.
Spammers have their rights and their choices to keep spamming, serious users should add them into their Ignore Lists (very simple, take around several seconds to do this step, but it will save them a lot of time later and won't be annoyed by those shit-posters again.)