well can any one recomend me a card to try?
I've tried some of the old geforce 7xxx and 9500 cards (which are even PCIe) and they get 1-4,hash/s. NONE of the standard PCI cards are going to give you anything worth the expense of electric costs. One PCIe system with one decent new radeon 5770 ($130) will give you more mhash than 16 old PCI/AGP cards will do.