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July 31, 2011, 03:49:41 AM
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I tried to call the phone number listed in mybitcoin.com's whois file and found out it's disconnected.

They absconded with our Bitcoins. Cry The pain and suffering introduced into the world by Mybitcoin.com will be returned to Tom Williams-operator of Mybitcoin.com-by God. We will be avenged seven fold.

Seems like it, their site appears to be down.

How much bitcoin did they hold to make it worth running away?

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July 31, 2011, 03:56:08 AM
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I tried to call the phone number listed in mybitcoin.com's whois file and found out it's disconnected.

They absconded with our Bitcoins. Cry The pain and suffering introduced into the world by Mybitcoin.com will be returned to Tom Williams-operator of Mybitcoin.com-by God. We will be avenged seven fold.

Seems like it, their site appears to be down.

How much bitcoin did they hold to make it worth running away?


They were one of the original sites for the community.
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July 31, 2011, 08:57:35 AM
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Whois mybitcoin.com


The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and
Registrars.
Registrant:
 MyBitcoin, LLC
 Main Street
 PO Box 556
 Charlestown, Nevis
 KN

 Domain name: MYBITCOIN.COM


 Administrative Contact:
    Williams, Tom  abuse@mybitcoin.com
    Main Street
    PO Box 556
    Charlestown, Nevis
    KN
    +6499518329
 Technical Contact:
    Williams, Tom  abuse@mybitcoin.com
    Main Street
    PO Box 556
    Charlestown, Nevis
    KN
    +6499518329

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July 31, 2011, 09:46:00 AM
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There was a big sale of 10000 btc that seem to have been dumped at the cheapest price (5am UTC). It looks like an odd sale to me.

http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg2zvztgSzm1g10zm2g25
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July 31, 2011, 09:53:56 AM
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There was a big sale of 10000 btc that seem to have been dumped at the cheapest price (5am UTC). It looks like an odd sale to me.

http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg2zvztgSzm1g10zm2g25
If it was the owner of MyBitcoin, wouldn't he used the Darknet (or darkpool...etc).

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July 31, 2011, 12:56:52 PM
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1000btc frozen, lost or stolen by MyBitcoin?

By Todd Bethell

On 12 July 2011, 1000btc MtGox to MyBitcoin.
On 28 July 2011, 1000btc MyBitcoin to MtGox.

28 June 2011, payment notification was received. 8hrs later (the site was still up) visual verification was done in account history of the transaction and correct address.
48 hrs later still no coins.

This is where I need a block explorer expert.
21 minutes after MyBitcoin received the btc block explorer shows the coins from that wallet being split and transmitted hundreds of times all the way down to 1 Satoshi.
Question:
1.   Is this normal or a sign of fraud making it impossible to track?
2.   Are all wallets effectively used as ‘pool wallets’ for payouts?
3.   While I am not accusing MyBitcoin of theft, itn’t plosible that
97fa1e8f85...
Block 135867 (2011-07-12 07:06:54)   1000   Received: Address   •   1DeAkzL1MBriA37pHS46Nu1xcCzJ5sPupH
1000
80641db425...
Block 135870 (2011-07-12 07:27:05)   1000   Sent: Address   •   17e8zfFzVkKtx4ofdeoYHhdvu1cTKCpv2r
•   1NgjsaazumvjaR3WZuLqqKEed79RneQy2Q
0
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MyBitcoin Payment Notification
MyBitcoin Robot [nobody@mybitcoin.com]
toddbethell@fastscanning.com
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Hello,

This is a payment notification from MyBitcoin.

You have sent Bitcoins!

Transaction Number: 245107
Transaction Date/Time: 2011-07-28 22:30:02
To: 18jsFKuKZ4w8mhdTYy9bZKKHmkZNSZrRUC
From: 19vKB489Lx1rxqS366f63mKDLXp6q3v3Ct
Amount: -1000.00
Payment Note: MtGox businessaccount1

Thank you.

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Approximately 8hrs later the coins had not been credited to my MtGox account. MyBitcoin was still up. My account history showed the coins had been sent and the sent to address was verified correct.
Security Note: The instant before clicking the send button (perhaps when my mouse hovered over it) I notice a screen blink or something changed, but it was too late to avoid clicking the button.

Q1. Has my computer been compromised such that the send address was swapped at the last instant?
Q2. If this is so, how could the correct address be recorded in the MyBitcoin data base?
Q3. Is it coincidence that the MyBitcoin service has gone down for 48hrs with nary a peep from its owner? A person who was very proactive and vocal during the MtGox incident.
Q4. I’m hard pressed to think of a technical reason how or why a transaction confirmation bot would send confirmation of btc transmission before such a transmission had actually occurred. Let alone consciously programmed in this way. It would seem that the bot was part of the book keeping data base and not confirming actual transmission from a ‘hot’ wallet.
Q5. It seems that the way MyBitcoins was using the wallets of its members (pooling them as a matter of operational efficiency or draining them as a scam??) this makes it impossible to track coins or analyze if they are insolvent?
Q6. Was my 1000btc withdrawal lower to water level in his 'hot wallet' enough to show Tom was swimming without a suit? In other words, for whatever reason, he was operating insolvent?

I would not normally keep so many coins in an on-line wallet but this was in preparation for a business transaction that was delayed.

I am preparing a blog and forum post or lessons learned and recommendations going forward:

If anyone has further information please post it here and send to my email also, or give me a call.
Skype:  toddbethell
Email:  toddbethell@fastscanning.com
Cell:  1-949-394-5932

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Action taken:
Phone: +6499518329  (always busy)
Emailed: enquiries were sent to abuse@mybitcoin.com
It is well know that Tom… only replys to ‘in-mail’ on his site.

Tom Williams
Main Street
PO Box 556
Charlestown, Nevis, KN

Todd Bethell, CFM, MBA
tbethell08@merage.uci.edu
toddbethell@fastscanning.com
Work: (949) 340-5438
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July 31, 2011, 06:06:19 PM
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There was a big sale of 10000 btc that seem to have been dumped at the cheapest price (5am UTC). It looks like an odd sale to me.

http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg2zvztgSzm1g10zm2g25
If it was the owner of MyBitcoin, wouldn't he used the Darknet (or darkpool...etc).

There is no darkpool at Mt. Gox anymore.

goxsh — a command-line frontend to the Mt. Gox Bitcoin Exchange
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August 01, 2011, 08:16:54 AM
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Lol 1000btc.  Shocked

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August 02, 2011, 05:34:29 PM
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Before anyone else starts ANOTHER thread about this, please realize that the UABB is already spearheading a legal and unbiased investigation into MyBitcoin.com but needs your support. Discussion about MyBitcoin.com is very healthy for the sharing of ideas and suggestions on how to tackle this very serious and difficult problem, but nothing will be done about it through forum posts.


Please start contributing to the actual investigation by adding your affidavit, attaching evidence of funds lost, and contributing to the fund to pay for international investigators. Thank you.


http://uabci.org/redmine/projects/mbci




I thought previous spammers were bad... 20+ posts saying the SAME THING?

Stop, just stop.  Anyone and everyone who cares about their bitcoins stuck in mybitcoin has seen or will see your post.  They don't need to read it two dozen times.
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