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May 17, 2018, 05:21:33 AM
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Someone I know got booted from their discord after seeing the below chat.

MKS - Today at 10:42 PM
not at that moment
Bytepaydev - Today at 10:42 PM
I consider price to be same and we will try to be way above that
i offered him 500 intstead of even 250 still he isnt thankful
And i am telling you we bought 300k and more today
who buys own coin
ever heard somewhere
not even for 1 satoshi but we still did
MKS - Today at 10:43 PM
i was surprised myself why would you do that
coz i said yesterday dev will not buy coins to manipulate the price
Bytepaydev - Today at 10:44 PM
yep but we have to make some walls and it was set as NEVER HAPPEN stage
but it did lol
i just saw it filled today
so you should all know even we go to 1 satoshi i will bring it up no matter what
MKS - Today at 10:45 PM
you have more orders on exchange?(edited)
Bytepaydev - Today at 10:45 PM
no
MKS - Today at 10:45 PM
better
Bytepaydev - Today at 10:45 PM
we will have after some days'
and we will facilitate price and make it stable

Price manipulation from the devs?
Not good..

Anon

Awesome that confirms what I said yesterday, he forgot his fake buy order on the exchange and it dumped right into it.
Now he claims he bought back to help the community
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May 17, 2018, 09:57:35 AM
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Funny how the same problems are always apparent with new wallet releases on both these coins. Crop and Bytepay

Users always have to wait a few days for the Mac wallet. Must be due to the fact that this scammer relies on someone else to compile it for him
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May 18, 2018, 05:14:28 AM
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New Info
Scammer running 50 x 40k Masternodes and dumping on exchange.


Account: walesman54
Coins needed for MN's: 2mil
Deposited: 530k Bytepay coins
BTC Withdrawn: 11.4706
Masternodes Rewards address: http://explorer.bytepay.org/address/BFJcKkzbNu7QcZzuBnw2BsZFPJ9v7K9tQv
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May 18, 2018, 05:50:23 AM
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Scammer running 50 x 40k Masternodes and dumping on exchange.


Account: walesman54
Coins needed for MN's: 2mil
Deposited: 530k Bytepay coins
BTC Withdrawn: 11.4706
Masternodes Rewards address: http://explorer.bytepay.org/address/BFJcKkzbNu7QcZzuBnw2BsZFPJ9v7K9tQv


I wonder what will he say this time? Another one of his "investors"?  He sold over 480k coins in only 2 weeks.
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May 18, 2018, 03:47:26 PM
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Guys,

as a former long-term supporter of his previous project, CropCoin, let me tell you what exactly you would expect from this new project considering how that past project was run, and all those issues you could find in its source code. I try to be as honest as possible regardless of his last message to me ("f..k off").

PROs:
  • he will sell you masternodes
  • he will support the project for some time (maybe month, maybe year)
  • he will make some changes in the project to keep high ROI (in coins) while possible
  • coin will be on exchanges, yes, the same as crop - CB and CE
  • those who are early birds, may and, highly likely, WILL make some money

CONs:
  • this project is a next clone of previous one
  • it uses old codebase with a lot of issues
  • to keep ROI high usual practice was to make blockchain forks every week or two. If you are not checking discord every day or two, you may probably miss update point and start loosing your masternode awards or mining rewards (they will be in another blockchain fork)
  • when lot of people enter the project, the premine of 4 million coins will go dumping in parts - the same way as crop's 2 million were dumped
  • the price will go down, crop's price went from 39000 sat/coin (as I bought it) to 3000-5000 sat/coins (when I sold out), and many people left it at high loss
  • this project has no innovations or clear whitepaper. CROPs innovations were tiered masternodes which are the way to keep interest to the project and coin price from falling. But actually they have no meaning at all, and due to variable number of different nodes, the daily supply will jump up and down, and create unpredictable inflation.
  • support on discord is irregular and sparse. The team consisted from a single "dev" which obviously does not code, since no single tech question was answered
  • "dev" lied to coin holders about plans. Say, he promised that "community will vote for reward structure", but when time's come, he just set fixed values, and to all questions he just wrote "we set the best for community". All this ignoring a lot of calculations and spreadsheets few user published being concerned
  • he ignores or rejects all offers to help with coding, web site or running services, but at the same time says "it's community project"
  • no team means no updates. Check crop web site, it is obsolete. Here will be the same. People were mining that coin a moths later after it went PoS only with no mining. And they lost money paying bills and not able to sell coins. The answer was "check discord and update". Let me add: check every day/week
  • not being a real developer, the code work is being made by other people. Including building of GUI wallets. GitHub does not cointain all files necessary to build Windows, Linux and Mac wallets, they are distributed as binary only files. Now is the same - Windows GUI is published, MacOS GUI in past project was published on GoogleDrive few days after releases/updates, Linux GUI wallet was never published at all. That's because of old code base taken instead of new one. On all offers to build all 3 platforms at once after adding missing files he answered nothing
  • As a result, someone else builds GUI released. You can't do that easily. I made those, but using some parts from other coins, since dev either ignored my requests for missing files, or said "all is published" - well, where is the /share directory needed to build GUI, and where is macdeploy script needed to build a MacOS app bundle? They are built from no one knows which code and by no one knows whom
  • with past project, this "dev" even was not able to setup own blockchain explorer and used gos.cx pool's one. Now is the same, use 3rd party offer. You still think it is a good project?
  • When you ask too many "bad" questions, they will be deleted first, and your account banned next
  • I can show proof to any of these statements, more are listed here. For instance, ask him how to build Linux GUI wallet from the source published. Or Windows. Or MacOS. I bet the answer will be like "we provide all you need ready to use, no need to build" since he is NOT a CODER/DEV, and, perhaps, he has never built any GUI himself

So the conclusion:
  • You may invest in it and even make a lot of money. But as well you may lose a lot in BTC if you miss dump point in time
  • Yes, ROI in coins is great. But ROI in BTC may be negative. Be aware.

What should be improved, at least, to make such "project" a bit more attractive:
  • up to date web site
  • own real, not fake, coders in the team, not subcontractors
  • own, not 3rd party, blockchain explorer
  • own tiered masternode stats page (if we tell about this like an innovation)
  • full source code published, so everyone can build 1) command line node for VPS, 2) Windows GUI wallet, 3) MacOS GUI wallet, 4) Linux GUI wallet
  • better if all this will use new code base with qmake/cmake/configure system instead of hard-coded fixed libs

Then you may safely invest. But don't ask too many questions apart from "how to install masternode". Otherwise you may receive the same answer as me after a month of supporting his users on Discord: "f..k off, a.. hole", proof is here (in the end).



This is true for almost all coins on the mastercoin online list STOP SCARE PEOPLE OFF!!!
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May 18, 2018, 06:07:34 PM
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i think that ARGO / CROPCOIN / BYTEPAY dev, are in reality the same person or crap team. the bytepay dev launched the 1 click mn feature, the same one that the ARGO dev has postponned till now...
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May 18, 2018, 07:28:08 PM
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This is true for almost all coins on the mastercoin online list STOP SCARE PEOPLE OFF!!!

Please go read the whole thread. It's full of facts showing this coin is indeed run by a scammer.
The purpose of the thread is not to scare people but to expose the scammer and educate potential investors in the crypto world.
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May 18, 2018, 07:55:47 PM
Last edit: May 19, 2018, 05:44:10 PM by tissmbs
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This is true for almost all coins on the mastercoin online list STOP SCARE PEOPLE OFF!!!

Please go read the whole thread. It's full of facts showing this coin is indeed run by a scammer.
The purpose of the thread is not to scare people but to expose the scammer and educate potential investors in the crypto world.

If it is true to most coins then most coins are a scam, bytepay and cropcoin are a part of that pool of scams, that is true.

I would not be surprised if benag is the dev impersonating someone else... Seems like the same mentality, all alt coins are shit coins hence his shit coin is legit. Such dumb logic.

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May 21, 2018, 06:48:27 AM
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I noticed Crop might be doing a code base change and that leads to a swap.
Will that give access to a new pool of premined coins?
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May 21, 2018, 02:58:19 PM
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I noticed Crop might be doing a code base change and that leads to a swap.
Will that give access to a new pool of premined coins?

The dev would do anything just to make it look like there is development activity... I'm surprised there is still demand for this coin, their roadmap is literally generic, so many better coins out there.  He claimed market  place investors 2 months ago and you have heard nothing about it since.  I'm pretty sure bytepay is headed in the same direction, he is barely active there anymore, Only ROI chasers buy that coin. Someone is really going to get burned there, same as CROP coin. Would not be surprised if he's already working on his next scam.
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May 22, 2018, 06:07:35 AM
Last edit: May 22, 2018, 12:25:19 PM by CryptoExpose
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Dev's account on CB dumping huge loads: walesman54

cryptobridge register walesman54, referrer: cryptobridge   2018/04/30 17:03:18   26572004
cryptobridge issue 3622 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/04/30 17:17:36   26572290
cryptobridge issue 6800 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/04/30 23:32:21   26579759
cryptobridge issue 8520 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/01 21:54:51   26606528
cryptobridge issue 2080 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/02 07:27:36   26617943
cryptobridge issue 9190 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/02 14:20:30   26626176
cryptobridge issue 8960 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/03 13:39:33   26654076
cryptobridge issue 17940 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/04 14:25:42   26683692
cryptobridge issue 12880 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/08 22:48:36   26808515
cryptobridge issue 9190 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/02 14:20:30   2662617
cryptobridge issue 8960 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/03 13:39:33   26654076
cryptobridge issue 17940 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/04 14:25:42   26683692
cryptobridge issue 12880 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/08 22:48:36   26808515
cryptobridge issue 7740 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/09 08:04:03   26819588
cryptobridge issue 14260 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/09 10:55:39   26823011
cryptobridge issue 14260 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/09 13:55:39   26826596
cryptobridge issue 14260 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/09 16:30:09   26829676
cryptobridge issue 13020 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/09 18:50:21   26832471
cryptobridge issue 9920 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/09 21:02:12   26835097
cryptobridge issue 10540 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/09 23:18:39   26837820
cryptobridge issue 45880.5 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/10 08:52:06   26849260
cryptobridge issue 9920 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/10 10:55:30   26851720
cryptobridge issue 97340 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/11 10:46:27   26880244
cryptobridge issue 16120 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/11 14:49:45   26885093
cryptobridge issue 39060 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/12 00:41:24   26896888
cryptobridge issue 31620 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/12 08:47:15   26906577
cryptobridge issue 23560 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/12 14:52:18   26913859
cryptobridge issue 35960 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/13 01:05:39   26926078
cryptobridge issue 28520 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/13 08:56:15   26935459
cryptobridge issue 2 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/19 23:13:33   27124139
cryptobridge issue 88444 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/20 20:38:57   27149749
cryptobridge issue 89912 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/21 19:59:09   27177658

Total of 709300.5 Bytepay on CB sold of for 12.6909BTC

Then the guys keep wondering why the price is so low
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May 23, 2018, 06:11:10 PM
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Funny thing is that the official bepay thread is self moderated , so the admin KEEPS deleting my posts warning users not to invest in this scammy and shady project.

Too sad , man. Too sad. People will lose money on this
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May 23, 2018, 11:21:53 PM
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Funny thing is that the official bepay thread is self moderated , so the admin KEEPS deleting my posts warning users not to invest in this scammy and shady project.

Too sad , man. Too sad. People will lose money on this

People on there actually think that the price will come back, just wow... That coin literally has nothing innovative, the moment people people lay their hands on something, they just won't admit to themselves that they made a mistake.
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May 24, 2018, 03:58:33 PM
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People, there is a big chance that Pentanode is the latest scam of this dev... Same gimmicky bs, but even more greedy this time.  He keeps delaying cryptobridge so he can sell more of his premine to people...
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May 25, 2018, 09:29:05 AM
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Cropcoindev just checked in on discord (Again bytepaydev also checked in 5 minutes before him on the other discord)

http://fs5.directupload.net/images/180525/zedqsn3q.jpg

Not one user complained about not being able to use Cryptobridge.
So once again scammer noticed this because he was busy trying to dump some coins?

Just to add both scammers went offline in both discord channels at the same time again
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May 26, 2018, 09:42:37 AM
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Can't get more obvious than this, just look at these colors... Whoever designs his websites sure likes to use the same colors.
The moment he's done with one coin, he just makes a new one... Despicable.

I don't think Pentanode is creation of the same guy.
Anyway...I don't like Pentanode

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Can't get more obvious than this, just look at these colors... Whoever designs his websites sure likes to use the same colors.
The moment he's done with one coin, he just makes a new one... Despicable.

I don't think Pentanode is creation of the same guy.
Anyway...I don't like Pentanode

It is the same guy.


I don't agree.
This guys are from Russian region (Pentanode)

I would say more that same dev is for Flea coin:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3360226.0

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May 27, 2018, 09:58:21 PM
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How would you know from what region they are? You live next to them? I've been following both crop and bytepay and I can tell when I see the same scam all over again.


Simple.
I talk with them,
investigate Discord and other links.  

Me speaking Russian also helps   Wink

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How would you know from what region they are? You live next to them? I've been following both crop and bytepay and I can tell when I see the same scam all over again.


Simple.
I talk with them,
investigate Discord and other links.  

Me speaking Russian also helps   Wink

It doesn't disprove my claim. It's not like they would tell you what language they speak especially after scamming people all the time.  He is learning from his mistakes, but he's still not good enough to hide his identity. 
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How would you know from what region they are? You live next to them? I've been following both crop and bytepay and I can tell when I see the same scam all over again.


Simple.
I talk with them,
investigate Discord and other links.  

Me speaking Russian also helps   Wink

It doesn't disprove my claim. It's not like they would tell you what language they speak especially after scamming people all the time.  He is learning from his mistakes, but he's still not good enough to hide his identity.  


OK  then prove with clear evidance of addresses movement or any other proof,
apart from your thinking or feeling

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