Merit Source @digaran has gone too far

[suchmoon]

3.I don't think you quite make a valid case for someone to be thrown out as a merit source.I mean maybe they have a slightly different opinions about your stuff but that doesn't mean they are incapable of judging one's post quality.I could be wrong though.

Offering to sell merits makes the case I think.

[jackg]

3.I don't think you quite make a valid case for someone to be thrown out as a merit source.I mean maybe they have a slightly different opinions about your stuff but that doesn't mean they are incapable of judging one's post quality.I could be wrong though.

Offering to sell merits makes the case I think.

Especially considering he's a merit source (apparently).

I've seen this kind accusations too many times to different members of ChipMixer sig campaign
apparently a few people think that most of ChipMixer sig wearers are DarkStar_ alts
don't spend too much time on these things just ignore it and go to the next thread

That is quite an odd observation by other members - I mean it'd be weird if it were true (and also unlikely) I don't think he'd be able to make so many good posots like that without dropping the quality at some point...
I guess that's why he changed his personal message then - in order to humour those accusing him of being an alt?

[LoyceV]

Offering to sell merits makes the case I think.

It's obvious that was a (bad and inappropriate) joke.

I guess that's why he changed his personal message then - in order to humour those accusing him of being an alt?

It took me a while to notice it's just his personal message, I thought he got a special forum tag, like the April fools tags.

[digaran]

You are a little shit, and you can shove your almighty merits up your ass.

So, the forum is a little shit? I was representing the forum, right?

I have never considered treating you differently because you're a merit source. I personally don't give a shit that you are a source.

It's not a fucking job. You don't get compensated for it

Why do you think that I am representing the forum then?

almighty merit source who happened to get lucky enough to identify 10 good posts for their application

Lucky for what?

continue going around the forums as a representative of the forums as a merit source.

Which one am I? representative of the forum or a little shit?

Especially considering he's a merit source (apparently).

What do you mean by apparently?

3.I don't think you quite make a valid case for someone to be thrown out as a merit source.I mean maybe they have a slightly different opinions about your stuff but that doesn't mean they are incapable of judging one's post quality.I could be wrong though.

Offering to sell merits makes the case I think.

Do you know of any idiot paying $100 for 1 merit? if you know somebody. let me know, or are you telling me that I shouldn't make a joke? I wouldn't mind people paying $100 per 1 merit to the forum and not me. they are getting it from their friends anyways, people are getting merits and posting garbage regardless. they would pay a few bucks to wear copper to get more merits. do you have any other case, like a case on my sent merits?

I remember giving him a merit in this post since he mentioned that he is being ignored and nobody can see his post lol
I thought that it will make him happy but it turn out differently

Either I'm being ignored or nobody could see my posts.

Why would you want me to be happy? are you unhappy about getting no merits from me? sorry for that. I have just started to read the posts of members meriting me recently. refer to my recently sent merits.

Come on man, dont let shitty person ruins your life and your good work, there are many people who is envious and want to be yourself but they can not. I see nothing wrong with your charity things (irl and forum), in fact, it is great to see humanity in this world with a lot of human now.

@digaran , if you ever read this, it doesnt mean you deserve the respect just because you can give merit to others.

Come on man, don't you have something else to do? like deleting your posts after getting merits on them? if you find Joe's charity work IRL a great thing, you should kneel and wait for his balls. they were last seen in my mouth but I think that post is now edited where he shoved them in my mouth.

2.Do you see that "ignore" button ? Try it,does wonders.

Yes exactly! Just use the ignore button.

show me some respect I'm a merit source

^^ This is where you reply them with a big "Fuck You"

That's probably a comment that is deservant of being removed as a merit source.

I should be removed as a source because I have asked to be respected in a sarcastic manner and instead got a "Fuck You"?  may Joe's humility never find you and your family in need of food. he would tell the world about giving you food, as if we should send *alia to him for his charity work.

Humble BTCforJoe, you are helping low ranking members to farm merits, if you remove the merit and cash prizes from your challenge, nobody would participate. if they wont participate, they are there to farm merits then.

*= Forum's prostitute.
~FR for forum's representative.
~LM law maker.
~B beggar.
~R racist.
~LL low life.
~V virgin.
~RMS respected merit source.
~RD respect demander.

[suchmoon]

3.I don't think you quite make a valid case for someone to be thrown out as a merit source.I mean maybe they have a slightly different opinions about your stuff but that doesn't mean they are incapable of judging one's post quality.I could be wrong though.

Offering to sell merits makes the case I think.

Do you know of any idiot paying $100 for 1 merit? if you know somebody. let me know, or are you telling me that I shouldn't make a joke? I wouldn't mind people paying $100 per 1 merit to the forum and not me. they are getting it from their friends anyways, people are getting merits and posting garbage regardless. they would pay a few bucks to wear copper to get more merits. do you have any other case, like a case on my sent merits?

How would I know? I'm not looking to sell merits, you are.

You have a bizarre approach to the supposed issues with merits, especially if you really are a merit source. You're attacking Joe, who seems to put a lot of effort into encouraging people to make quality posts. If you don't like that - I'm sure there are plenty of posts elsewhere that you can send your merits to. If you see abuse post it for everyone to see and discuss.

[DarkStar_]

If you see abuse post it for everyone to see and discuss.

According to digaran, sponsoring merits as a merit source for a challenge like Joe's counts as abuse.

[max2607]

Humble BTCforJoe, you are helping low ranking members to farm merits, if you remove the merit and cash prizes from your challenge, nobody would participate. if they wont participate, they are there to farm merits then.

Looks like you can't read english properly the whole reason for it is to remove spam and shitposts from the forum.
It's even mentioned clearly

This challenge was designed to help eliminate spam and shitposts from the forums.
In return, you could be rewarded for posting quality content and contributing to BitcoinTalk.

If you posts are good and contributing to the forum you deserve merit because that's why it was created in the first place

If you see abuse post it for everyone to see and discuss.

According to digaran, sponsoring merits as a merit source for a challenge like Joe's counts as abuse.

Different people have different opinion i don't understand why does it even matter just ignore this dude he just grudge against joe and nothing else so he's making different claims against him

[digaran]

3.I don't think you quite make a valid case for someone to be thrown out as a merit source.I mean maybe they have a slightly different opinions about your stuff but that doesn't mean they are incapable of judging one's post quality.I could be wrong though.

Offering to sell merits makes the case I think.

Do you know of any idiot paying $100 for 1 merit? if you know somebody. let me know, or are you telling me that I shouldn't make a joke? I wouldn't mind people paying $100 per 1 merit to the forum and not me. they are getting it from their friends anyways, people are getting merits and posting garbage regardless. they would pay a few bucks to wear copper to get more merits. do you have any other case, like a case on my sent merits?

How would I know? I'm not looking to sell merits, you are.

You have a bizarre approach to the supposed issues with merits, especially if you really are a merit source. You're attacking Joe, who seems to put a lot of effort into encouraging people to make quality posts. If you don't like that - I'm sure there are plenty of posts elsewhere that you can send your merits to. If you see abuse post it for everyone to see and discuss.

Would it be bad if any of the participants in Joe's challenge paid $100 per 1 received merit for a quality post to the forum?(lol in case you don't dig my dry humour) I don't want to sell merits on behalf of the forum, because I know that's not what theymos would've wanted. stop making this look like that I was really trying to sell merits. just say thanks to me for giving you excuse to merit your friends. you all should thank me. here is your excuse to gang bang me and receive merits plus money per post. you really shouldn't take Joe's side, you have sent him 24 merits. and now supporting him here. you want to make this about me? go suchmoon go. you want me removed as a source? who is next in line to take my place? I wonder. why did you ignore the fact about Joe's merit farm? if you are posting to get merits, would you post if there is no merit reward? if you would post no matter if there is any reward or not, then join the club as everybody else and people shall merit your posts.

Not posting if there is no merit reward? then don't post. are you here to conclude that I have attempted to sell merits as a source and tag me? I would never betray theymos. I would never sell merits with this account or my brother's account (dormant for 6 months, I tried to register an alt account recently, when I opened Bitcointalk.org with another browser, his account was logged in, I only looked at his personal messages and then logged out to register an account for April fools day). even if I had 20 accounts with 1000 merits, I would never sell merits, period.

especially if you really are a merit source

I should get banned for claiming to be a source while I'm not. you could've questioned staff and administration to say: what are you doing? there is a lowlife beggar going around the forum claiming to be a source and you haven't stopped him from such a trolling?

It wont matter if I'm a source or not, if BTCforJoe is offended by my posts, he could have reported them, but he had to post a topic to further rub his charitable activities in to our faces. that's why I'd call him "The Humble Joe".  digaran has gone too far according to humble Joe. he considers me as a representative of this forum, while he has called me a little shit. he also told me to go fuck myself if I'm not happy about what he is doing. he only wants me to be blamed for my actions as a representative of this forum, but when it comes to my criticism about him, he shows no respect to that representative. shame on you.

[bitmover]

As this is a public discussion, and as I have participated in many Joe's rounds, I will express my opinion.

@digaran, I think that as a Merit Source you are somehow a staff member of this forum. You have the right to disagree to Joe's campaign, and that's ok.
You should report that thread to moderators. The moderators are the ones who have the authority to decide what to do about his campaign, not the merit sources.

But you are exposing yourself and the forum (as a staff member) when you engage in discussions like this. Too many offenses from so many people. Nothing good will come from this discussion.

Just my 2cc.

[suchmoon]

Would it be bad if any of the participants in Joe's challenge paid $100 per 1 received merit for a quality post to the forum?(lol in case you don't dig my dry humour) I don't want to sell merits on behalf of the forum, because I know that's not what theymos would've wanted. stop making this look like that I was really trying to sell merits. just say thanks to me for giving you excuse to merit your friends. you all should thank me. here is your excuse to gang bang me and receive merits plus money per post. you really shouldn't take Joe's side, you have sent him 24 merits. and now supporting him here. you want to make this about me? go suchmoon go. you want me removed as a source? who is next in line to take my place? I wonder. why did you ignore the fact about Joe's merit farm? if you are posting to get merits, would you post if there is no merit reward? if you would post no matter if there is any reward or not, then join the club as everybody else and people shall merit your posts.

I sent merits to Joe because I think he's doing a great job and helping the forum. I have merited 300+ users, does that make all of them my friends? I'd be honored but that's a bit of a stretch I think. I don't post to get merits and I don't need merits so the rest of your rant is irrelevant.

I also don't make decisions about you being a merit source, it's theymos' problem. If he believes that you're just joking about selling merits then that's that. I personally think you should knock it off because it wasn't funny even the first time but hey - free speech.

Not posting if there is no merit reward? then don't post. are you here to conclude that I have attempted to sell merits as a source and tag me? I would never betray theymos. I would never sell merits with this account or my brother's account (dormant for 6 months, I tried to register an alt account recently, when I opened Bitcointalk.org with another browser, his account was logged in, I only looked at his personal messages and then logged out to register an account for April fools day). even if I had 20 accounts with 1000 merits, I would never sell merits, period.

Not sure why you're talking about your alts but now that you brought it up you should make those usernames public.

especially if you really are a merit source

I should get banned for claiming to be a source while I'm not. you could've questioned staff and administration to say: what are you doing? there is a lowlife beggar going around the forum claiming to be a source and you haven't stopped him from such a trolling?

It wont matter if I'm a source or not, if BTCforJoe is offended by my posts, he could have reported them, but he had to post a topic to further rub his charitable activities in to our faces. that's why I'd call him "The Humble Joe".  digaran has gone too far according to humble Joe. he considers me as a representative of this forum, while he has called me a little shit. he also told me to go fuck myself if I'm not happy about what he is doing. he only wants me to be blamed for my actions as a representative of this forum, but when it comes to my criticism about him, he shows no respect to that representative. shame on you.

To be fair, "go fuck yourself" is an appropriate response to people demanding respect on intertubes forums. I can also suggest a cactus or a bag of nails to spice things up.

[yudif]

Just try to avoid the person and use the ignore option. All people have different way of thinking and also the maturity level is different depending on the age and life experiences. By giving importance to a person who is trying to put you down, you are giving him free publicity.

Regarding you mentioning that he is a merit source, that should not be done in public. If you feel that he is misusing the position of merit source, report it to the moderators with all proofs. As you have mentioned that he is a merit source, I think a lot of members will now try commenting on his threads or posts in hope of attention and merits.

[digaran]

If you are posting to get merits (I'm talking about other people joining Joe's challenge) would you post if there is no merit reward? if you would post no matter if there is any reward or not, then join the club as everybody else and people shall merit your posts.

I don't post to get merits and I don't need merits so the rest of your rant is irrelevant.

You are just avoiding to respond, don't just say your rant is irrelevant.

Not posting if there is no merit reward? then don't post. are you here to conclude that I have attempted to sell merits as a source and tag me? I would never betray theymos. I would never sell merits with this account or my brother's account (dormant for 6 months, I tried to register an alt account recently, when I opened Bitcointalk.org with another browser, his account was logged in, I only looked at his personal messages and then logged out to register an account for April fools day). even if I had 20 accounts with 1000 merits, I would never sell merits, period.

Not sure why you're talking about your alts but now that you brought it up you should make those usernames public.

Literally_farming_merits not that it's any of your business other than theymos's. other account is not mine to disclose, however they have used the same IPs as mine. you are not sure why? read the part in bold.

I have merited 300+ users, does that make all of them my friends?

You have merited your friends more than others.

As this is a public discussion, and as I have participated in many Joe's rounds, I will express my opinion.

@digaran, I think that as a Merit Source you are somehow a staff member of this forum. You have the right to disagree to Joe's campaign, and that's ok.
You should report that thread to moderators. The moderators are the ones who have the authority to decide what to do about his campaign, not the merit sources.

But you are exposing yourself and the forum (as a staff member) when you engage in discussions like this. Too many offenses from so many people. Nothing good will come from this discussion.

Just my 2cc.

Is this the reason for Joe not applying as a source? so he can talk however he'd liked? if you could find my name anywhere as a staff or representative of this forum, we should then start discussing people's behaviour towards me. do not mistaken me as the forum's *representative. I'm representing the public, unheard, poor, lowlifes with nobody to defend them. I'm a public servant. reckless and fearless. I don't like it when somebody rubs what they are doing to our faces, like we are benefiting the most. suchmoon says what BTCforJoe is doing is great, why wouldn't he do that on behalf of the forum as a source? if he doesn't want to take the responsibility of a source, he shouldn't expect to have me removed and my post deleted because he is offended by my post.

He should have reported me to moderators and they should've deleted my post, I would have be offended then, if they deleted my post and not every body else's posts somehow offensive for other users. doing that would be like doing a favour for Joe (if they are not reacting to my case, is because they don't want to pick a side, they are staying neutral and waiting for either of us to make a mistake to step in) he didn't get what he wanted, now he has posted this to demand action resulting to his satisfaction. not against the rules, right? everybody else could and should do the same because Joe did the same, right?

Now he has me quoted, no chance for me to edit my post, if I'd made a mistake, right? this person knows nothing about helping others, doing charity? I'd like to advise those homeless families to drop some of that soup inside alia to see if she gets pregnant or not, yes that's what we do with people like alia, we would use them in our experiments. we'll know the result after a few weeks. lol now.

If I see they would keep putting my actions on theymos, to blame him like everything else, I will resign. seriously. under one condition though. nobody else should replace me. because I'm starting to feel like they are pushing theymos with every chance they'd get to further push somebody else's merit source application to be as the next best thing.

What Joe wants, is something that would only benefit himself and his friends. he is not demanding something for the benefit of the community, he'd rather use forum's resources for personal gains (instead of reporting to moderators, he'd rather to post this topic, there is 0.0007BTC per post for him and all of his buddies trying to smear my small near to nothing contribution. insinuating that I'm bad for the image of the forum, but when it comes to my opinion, they don't care what I'm saying and they don't recognize me as any authority but they would demand me to act as I have any authoritative obligation towards them) have you noticed how he added quotes of mine to say that I'm a racist? isn't that the same nails and cactus to spice this up? who said something about spicing things up I wonder? I'd say this is the same tactic mentioned by somebody else. suchmoon talking about adding nails to spice me fucking myself, BTCforJoe adding a few quotes to his report with the same intent and expecting the same result which would be me fucked. not really. if I'm not a source, it would make me sad, because I wouldn't be able to help. but I know that I should be myself, if I had been given some guidelines about what is expected from me and if I had ignored them, I'd deserved to be removed as a source.

Enjoy reading my wall of text.

*= don't throw up please.

EDIT: Above statement in red and the following:

I would like to invite you the vigilant community members to decide and conclude for yourselves, how many posts do they have regarding their merit distribution threads? who has received the majority of the merits as a result directly from their threads? how many 0.0007BTC per post they have earned? if I had never posted there to talk about farming merits with alt accounts. they were trying to allow alt accounts taking part in their thread. you all know that I'm a nobody, and everything I say about respect and selling merits etc is a joke of a clown trying to mirror whatever that happens every day in this community. for example: somebody is doing something, not for our benefit but mostly for their own. they would act like we should respect them and trust them just because they were trusted once a long time ago with a large amount of money and by somebody who had no other choice, because they were the next best thing. or when you see some people had some trades with the right people and at the right time to have them trusted by green + digits. they are using that for their own benefits not even secretly but openly. if I have offended you the community in any way, I'm a human like you, I can make mistakes too. I have always tried to stay neutral and fair. I'm sorry for inconveniences from my part. now make me an admin, this ladder was the hardest one to climb. lol before putting me on ignore.

[LoyceV]

Humble BTCforJoe, you are helping low ranking members to farm merits, if you remove the merit and cash prizes from your challenge, nobody would participate. if they wont participate, they are there to farm merits then.

That's a weird statement coming from someone who was trying to use merit for doing tasks: Provide information and receive merits from the most reputable source. :/.

If my signature didn't pay for my posts, I wouldn't show it either. _{(I do show my avatar for free though)}
There's nothing wrong with giving an incentive to post quality.

It wont matter if I'm a source or not, if BTCforJoe is offended by my posts, he could have reported them

"Offending" someone isn't against the rules, and in a time where anybody can be offended by anything, I think that's a good thing.
But, I also think it's a good thing to at least try to be polite. It just makes the forum in general a nicer place.

You should report that thread to moderators. The moderators are the ones who have the authority to decide what to do about his campaign, not the merit sources.

There are no forum rules against basically anything you can do with your sMerit, so moderators won't interfere.

I have merited 300+ users

I counted 418 last Friday to be exact.

[BTCforJoe]

I don't see how me spending my EARNED merits, personal money, and hours of time per week to run this challenge can be misconceived as using the forum's resources for personal gains. WHAT personal gains? I literally have no clue what you're talking about.

And to bring up @alia... That's completely irrelevant and has nothing to do with anything. But that's the type of person you are. You like to cloud your argument with shit that doesn't support any context whatsoever by bringing up irrelevant information lol. I won't entertain that.

And by you stating the things that you did state in the quoted text in the top post does make you sound like a racist. Unlike you, I don't edit other people's quotes. That was out of your mouth, verbatim. I would never use those words to describe anyone, jokingly or not. It's just insensitive and ignorant, and if you can't see that, it just goes to show that you really are a bigot.

And by you making libelous claims about my charitable actions in real life? That's defamatory, and could easily be taken as a violation of the following:

3. No trolling.

However, trolling isn't allowed. If a user is habitually posting obviously false nonsense ("obviously false nonsense" to an outsider, NOT to someone who follows or is involved in the discussion) just to stir up trouble, then it's considered trolling, which is prohibited. Such cases should be thoroughly documented in the report though (There are tons of reports that just say "trolling", but moderators don't have time to look through each user's post).

Anyways, it's obvious that nothing will be done by staff about you, so I'm placing you on my ignore list. I would appreciate if you would stop slandering me throughout the forums in random posts. I'll respect you enough to stop talking about you from this point forward, as well. I've already committed to doing that once before, but it seems as if you like to continue bringing me up. That's on you, but I'm done addressing you.

Cheers.

[digaran]

Cheers mate. I will not use your name. I will use "you know who". because you are the most humble high rank member in this forum. I need to use you as an example when I need to show others what humility really means. btw. about editing other people's quotes, I have tried to make them different. if you could notice they weren't posted by the author of that quote, other people could notice too.

Fun fact, last time I edited a quote like that, it was a quote of an admin of another forum, I got banned by his brother (a mod) permanently. it was a joke and he knew it, but his brother disliked me. indeed I'm a bigot, lowlife, beggar. I have no home of my own, I live with my parents. all I need is 0.... ugh ahh. you almost got me for begging. maybe next time you could report me for begging. dig through my post history to find my begging attempts. and keep meriting each other whilst doing me here.

Note, who suggested to change the title in "Merit Source" and not "User"? this is how you know people. if you put all of their posts together, you'll have a giant puzzle of a group gang banging me. because I embarrassed Joe in front of his new ICO launcher buddy.

[bill gator]

I will not use your name. I will use "you know who". because you are the most humble high rank member in this forum

Can you make a thread/post in which you explain all of your lingo? I'd love to be able to follow along better, because you make me laugh harder than just about anyone. I will never put you on my ignore list as others have suggested, because you are extremely entertaining. My good ole' jump-buddy. 

Fun fact, I'm a bigot, lowlife, beggar.

The man admits these things openly; do you honestly need more than that to take their posts with a grain of salt?

keep meriting each other whilst doing me here.

Oh! You should also make a thread/post explaining what you believe to be appropriate merit behavior, because this too is something I would love to follow along with.

I was representing the forum, right?

No sir, you are an individual, representing your own opinion on a forum which acts as an open-marketplace of ideas. If you are not Staff, then you are not representing the forum. DT members and Merit-sources do not necessarily represent the forum anymore than a random user; although, it is more likely that their opinions align with the Staff/forum. A good example of this, is that many DT members and Merit-Sources disagree with each other about just about anything you can name. Unless you are saying that the forum is represented by anything and everything users post (which is redundant, at best), this would prove to be a contradictory premise.

It's not a fucking job. You don't get compensated for it

Why do you think that I am representing the forum then?

wat. You are compensated by theymos? Do you receive BTC, $ or does he let you jump your pick of the newbies? Being a merit-source doesn't count as compensation, unless you also consider volunteer work to count as compensation or that you are commanding your status as merit-source over others and this is compensation. Please elaborate, my friend.

Which one am I? representative of the forum or a little shit?

Oh, come on, you know the answer to that one. 

Why would you want me to be happy? are you unhappy about getting no merits from me?

The one and only thing all of us care about is your happiness, digaran, how can you say such things? Of course we are unhappy about not receiving merits from you, as you are the one we pray to at night; we hope for you to notice us and only with your touch can we seek enlightenment. We strive day and night to receive merit from you, yet you forsake us, why do you forsake us?

if you find Joe's charity work IRL a great thing, you should kneel and wait for his balls.

Wait a minute, now I think I understand your confusion about compensation. 

they were last seen...

I think we know where to find them, unless they've gone astray?

if you remove the merit and cash prizes from your challenge, nobody would participate.

Well, we know that's wrong, because there has been many members that have asked to not receive their prizes. So they participate knowing they will not receive merit, cash, BTC or any other kind of compensation. That makes you wrong as can be, bucko.

*= Forum's prostitute.
~FR for forum's representative.
~LM law maker.
~B beggar.
~R racist.
~LL low life.
~V virgin.
~RMS respected merit source.
~RD respect demander.

Yes, more like this. I want to understand you, you beautiful creature.

[Jet Cash]

I wonder how difficult it would be to make a video of this thread. If I had some animation skills, I'd be tempted to have a go.

[BTCforJoe]

@bill gator, you remind me of that crazy counselor we all had at summer camp that was the only person that knew how to talk with that one outcast high school kid that ultimately ends up going on a murder-suicide shooting spree. You'd be the guy that's quoted in the newspaper as saying "xxx was a misunderstood individual, and if people would have just taken the time to peel back the layers, they would have seen the side of xxx that I saw."

Wow; what a weird first thought to have... I shouldn't log in to the forums first thing after waking up lol

[Jet Cash]

We've got sex, religion and politics in this thread. Now we just need the Rock 'n' Roll

Now I'm giving away my age.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

For a second, i thought i was on reddit or drama forum
Member on this forum can't live without drama.

That's true, though BTCforJoe does have a valid gripe with the guy.  Some of us have developed much thicker skins as far as malicious trolling is concerned.  Hell, I was pissed off when I got my first negative trust on bitcointalk, which was before I started handing them out for account selling and started getting retaliatory red marks by the hundreds.  Same thing with behavior like digaran's here.  It stings at first, but then you quickly get over it. 

As I said previously, there's not a reputation that's going to get sullied by people spouting ridiculous nonsense.  If someone really ruined a reputation with words like this, there was probably some truth to it--but in this case there isn't.