Does Cobra control something over Bitcointalk and Bitcoin.org ?

[LeGaulois]

Who has the full right to the domain names Bitcointalk and Bitcoin.org Who control the registrar accounts?
Theymos or Cobra?

And the same question about the database/servers/etc.
And finally, what is the role of Cobra regarding Bitcointalk and Bitcoin.org

I am sorry if it's something private and so I will understand not getting an answer but I am just interested to know for some reasons

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[Quickseller]

He is allegedly an admin of bitcoin.org and bitcointalk.org. If memory serves me correctly, he has control over both domains.

Realistically, he is either theymos, sirus or satoshi (unlikely) considering the timeline of when the administration was turned over from satoshi, and the first instances of evidence of the existence of his handle-identity. 

[theymos]

Bitcoin.org:
 - Cobra has ultimate control over the domain name. I have access to the domain name settings.
 - Cobra runs the server.
 - Will Binns holds the BTC.

Bitcointalk.org:
 - Cobra has ultimate control over the domain name. I have access to the domain name settings.
 - I run the server. Cobra has no access to the database or server.
 - The BTC is held by myself and the treasurers. Cobra has no access.

I am not Cobra. What would even be the point of that?

[Lauda]

Bitcoin.org:
 - Cobra has ultimate control over the domain name.

Bitcointalk.org:
 - Cobra has ultimate control over the domain name.

Therefore, he can hijack both domains if he wanted to? That doesn't sound good given his statements in the last couple of weeks/months on Twitter and whatnot.

[LeGaulois]

Just wondering...

Cobra turned into a Bitcoin Cash fan. Don't think I am trolling, but....

Edit: Lauda figured out I was thinking about.

[Quickseller]

I am not Cobra. What would even be the point of that?

To voice controversial statements/opinions, which he is far from shy about doing.

If cobra =/= theymos, then who is he, and what is the basis for trusting him with ultimate control over the domain names?

If memory serves me correctly, sirus and satoshi both founded the forum, so it would make sense for sirus to take it over when satoshi left, and theymos was active around here in the very early days, was made a moderator, made his way up the "ranks" to eventually be made an administrator, and presumably ran the forum well enough to eventually have control over the server.

From what I can tell, cobra just kinda appeared out of nowhere and was running things.

[FFrankie]

I am not Cobra. What would even be the point of that?

To voice controversial statements/opinions, which he is far from shy about doing.

If cobra =/= theymos, then who is he, and what is the basis for trusting him with ultimate control over the domain names?

If memory serves me correctly, sirus and satoshi both founded the forum, so it would make sense for sirus to take it over when satoshi left, and theymos was active around here in the very early days, was made a moderator, made his way up the "ranks" to eventually be made an administrator, and presumably ran the forum well enough to eventually have control over the server.

From what I can tell, cobra just kinda appeared out of nowhere and was running things.

Who is Will Binns and how does bitcoin.org have any BTC to hold? how much BTC do they have?

Who is cobra?

[max2607]

I am not Cobra. What would even be the point of that?

To voice controversial statements/opinions, which he is far from shy about doing.

If cobra =/= theymos, then who is he, and what is the basis for trusting him with ultimate control over the domain names?

If memory serves me correctly, sirus and satoshi both founded the forum, so it would make sense for sirus to take it over when satoshi left, and theymos was active around here in the very early days, was made a moderator, made his way up the "ranks" to eventually be made an administrator, and presumably ran the forum well enough to eventually have control over the server.

From what I can tell, cobra just kinda appeared out of nowhere and was running things.

Who is Will Binns and how does bitcoin.org have any BTC to hold? how much BTC do they have?

Who is cobra?

Maybe you should read the replies before posting

- Here's your answer -  

how much BTC do they have?

As far as i remember bitcoin.org sold all their btc and they support bch i don't think they have any btc at the moment

[Quickseller]

Who is cobra?

cobra -

https://twitter.com/CobraBitcoin
https://medium.com/@CobraBitcoin
https://www.reddit.com/user/cobra-bitcoin/

[TryNinja]

Just wondering...

Cobra turned into a Bitcoin Cash fan. Don't think I am trolling, but....

Wasn't the "Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin" tweet an April Fools prank? That's his last tweet (from today):

Very strange, but it seems the @Bitcoin account was suspended, and then deleted by Twitter, and somebody registered it just now completely fresh. I hope the new owner supports the true Bitcoin, and recognises that Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin Cash, not Bitcoin!

https://twitter.com/CobraBitcoin/status/982980460526690305

[LeGaulois]

Just wondering...

Cobra turned into a Bitcoin Cash fan. Don't think I am trolling, but....

Wasn't the "Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin" tweet an April Fools prank? That's his last tweet (from today):

Very strange, but it seems the @Bitcoin account was suspended, and then deleted by Twitter, and somebody registered it just now completely fresh. I hope the new owner supports the true Bitcoin, and recognises that Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin Cash, not Bitcoin!

https://twitter.com/CobraBitcoin/status/982980460526690305

It was a "subliminal message", if I can say, and not really an April fool prank
I find some of his claims are controversials, you can find some contents from him  telling how "Bitcoin is great" to "There was a long need for a blockchain good for payments, that makes certain tradeoffs to achieve that, and I think from a UX point of view, Bitcoin Cash has much better chances of winning the upcoming payments war than LN."

[akamit]

First time heard the name "Cobra" and known he is a co-owner of bitcointalk.org from his twitter.
So far I knew that Theymos is the only owner/administrative of bitcointalk and we can all see Theymos at least talks with the community.
But what about Mr. Cobra? Does he have an account here and did he ever talked with the community? I'm just curious. 

Not completely sure, where this topic is indicating.
But a few days ago I saw a news at Bitcoinist.com, they were just praising BitcoinCash and were criticizing Bitcoin. And they also said something about Theymos, I don't remember though.
Later Vitalik Buterin has also criticized Bitcoin and were praising BitcoinCash. And now I have known that Cobra became a fan of BitcoinCash (Source LeGaulois Post). What? Is it a propaganda against bitcoin?

[Cøbra]

Therefore, he can hijack both domains if he wanted to? That doesn't sound good given his statements in the last couple of weeks/months on Twitter and whatnot.

Someone finding Bitcoin Cash useful for a particular use case (payments) doesn't mean they're immediately some raging "Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin" crazy person. Right now I keep most of my money in Bitcoin, and some spending money in Bitcoin Cash, but if the fees get high on Bitcoin, as they sometimes do, I can just pay for things with Bitcoin Cash since adoption is reasonably good. It's ridiculous how there's no longer any nuance left in the community. Everyone's so ready to chase anyone out of the community just because they don't hate on Bitcoin Cash with the same fierce fiery hatred.

I haven't done anything evil with my access, ever. In fact, I've been extremely aggressive in preventive efforts to harm actual evil like XT, Classic, BU, NYA, etc. It's disappointing how prominent people like Gregory Maxwell and Samson Mow have helped in spreading vicious rumors that I've been compromised or sold my account. Despite what you read on Twitter, there's no history of me doing anything malicious to harm the Bitcoin community. It's all just a smear campaign organized by people associated with Blockstream.

I can assure you all that nobody will ever see anything evil put up on bitcoin.org or bitcointalk.org. The fact that something so obvious needs to be stated is a testament to how so many in this community have become paranoid and are in a state of permanently waiting for the next "enemy of Bitcoin" to show themselves.

[Lauda]

It's disappointing how prominent people like Gregory Maxwell and Samson Mow have helped in spreading vicious rumors that I've been compromised or sold my account.

You can't reasonably believe that unless you have proof. Source?

It's all just a smear campaign organized by people associated with Blockstream.

Source?

The fact that something so obvious needs to be stated is a testament to how so many in this community have become paranoid and are in a state of permanently waiting for the next "enemy of Bitcoin" to show themselves.

Disagreed. We've seen hijacking before (recently @Bitcoin twitter handle), and being cautious isn't a bad thing. Roger Ver is pretty much down for anything to get his way from what I can tell.

[DooMAD]

Someone finding Bitcoin Cash useful for a particular use case (payments) doesn't mean they're immediately some raging "Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin" crazy person. Right now I keep most of my money in Bitcoin, and some spending money in Bitcoin Cash, but if the fees get high on Bitcoin, as they sometimes do, I can just pay for things with Bitcoin Cash since adoption is reasonably good. It's ridiculous how there's no longer any nuance left in the community. Everyone's so ready to chase anyone out of the community just because they don't hate on Bitcoin Cash with the same fierce fiery hatred.

I haven't done anything evil with my access, ever. In fact, I've been extremely aggressive in preventive efforts to harm actual evil like XT, Classic, BU, NYA, etc. It's disappointing how prominent people like Gregory Maxwell and Samson Mow have helped in spreading vicious rumors that I've been compromised or sold my account. Despite what you read on Twitter, there's no history of me doing anything malicious to harm the Bitcoin community. It's all just a smear campaign organized by people associated with Blockstream.

I can assure you all that nobody will ever see anything evil put up on bitcoin.org or bitcointalk.org. The fact that something so obvious needs to be stated is a testament to how so many in this community have become paranoid and are in a state of permanently waiting for the next "enemy of Bitcoin" to show themselves.

I figured it would be something far more innocuous than the last topic-turned-witch-hunt about this suggested.  And for my part, I apologise for my views being swayed by that thread, causing me to question your knowledgeability without hearing your side of the story first.  The tribalist mentality is indeed getting out of hand, I'm in full agreement there.  This almost certainly stems from people focusing on the personalities and not the ideas.  

"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."

It's also disconcerting that there are those would immediately resort to a route of denying someone ownership of their property over a difference of opinion.  Ownership is a fundamental tenet of crypto, so it really makes me wonder if many of these people truly understand all this.  I find their stance far more dangerous than any controversial views you've expressed.  At the end of the day, saying something controversial is not an act of guilt.  If it was, I'd have been put away long ago.  

It's disappointing how prominent people like Gregory Maxwell and Samson Mow have helped in spreading vicious rumors that I've been compromised or sold my account.

You can't reasonably believe that unless you have proof. Source?

From the other half of the witch-hunt on reddit:

I get the impression that cobra sold his credentials last year: He put up some sketchy warnings about the binaries on bitcoin.org then went quiet for a long time. (...)

[LeGaulois]

There are a lot of people working on great projects, but there are also people working on junk and marketing it as Bitcoin.
Bcash is the most hostile fork. It's not about to chase anyone out of the community if they don't hate on BCash with the same fierce fiery hatred. Take the example with others forks...It's just how the Bcash community is trying to misappropriate the Bitcoin brand.
Other than that, people are free to do whatever they want, you don't see the Bitcoin community chasing the others +1500 altcoins communities

You said Bcash is cancer and a useless coin with no future. (I still have a screenshot somewhere, I can search for) This is a reason I used to say your comments are controversial...

It's funny you say this but you should also add:
a smear campaign organized by people associated with Roger Ver against Blockstream using @bitcoin on Twitter spreading vicious rumors and posting fakes screenshots from Blockstream website, (or telling during conference Bitcoin kills babies...)

back on the topic (because I wasn't looking for a BTC vs Btrash battle)
You must be kidding, there is a difference between someone interested to know how the domain names of the Bitcoin community are safe from Roger Ver army and someone waiting for the next "enemy of Bitcoin" to show themselves. I can go on Twitter without waiting a minute to find someone from bcash to troll. I also perfectly know how money can be used to buy people opinion. But I'm going to believe in your intention towards the Bitcoin community

[Cøbra]

It's disappointing how prominent people like Gregory Maxwell and Samson Mow have helped in spreading vicious rumors that I've been compromised or sold my account.

You can't reasonably believe that unless you have proof. Source?

It's all just a smear campaign organized by people associated with Blockstream.

Source?

The fact that something so obvious needs to be stated is a testament to how so many in this community have become paranoid and are in a state of permanently waiting for the next "enemy of Bitcoin" to show themselves.

Disagreed. We've seen hijacking before (recently @Bitcoin twitter handle), and being cautious isn't a bad thing. Roger Ver is pretty much down for anything to get his way from what I can tell.

https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/976639172290142209
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/82ofw9/cobrabitcoin_must_step_down_asap_from_bitcoinorg/dvcgmsb/

If this account was hijacked, it could just shill Bitcoin Cash on bitcoin.org, so I doubt they believe I've actually been compromised, it's just a means to smear me. They're very tribalistic and emotionally sensitive, so any opinion outside of their small overton window of acceptable thought scares them, and they react by launching personal attacks and smear campaigns.

[siddartha1492]

If memory serves me correctly, sirus and satoshi both founded the forum, so it would make sense for sirus to take it over when satoshi left, and theymos was active around here in the very early days, was made a moderator, made his way up the "ranks" to eventually be made an administrator, and presumably ran the forum well enough to eventually have control over the server.

From what I can tell, cobra just kinda appeared out of nowhere and was running things.

So since Theymos has been around from the early days, is it possible that he is one of the few people on this planet who would know about Satoshi's true identity? Doesn't that make Theymos a Person of Interest for Satoshi chasers, including agencies like CIA. Just curious!

[r1s2g3]

Sirius, a.k.a. Martti Malmi, was the second Bitcoin developer after Satoshi and the founder of the Bitcoin Forum. He's not an active developer anymore, but continues to manage the domain names bitcointalk.org and bitcoin.org.

Reference : https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Sirius

If I combine everything in this thread and bitcoin wiki then it is obvious that "Cobra" is "Sirius"

[vit05]

I am not Cobra. What would even be the point of that?

To voice controversial statements/opinions, which he is far from shy about doing.

If cobra =/= theymos, then who is he, and what is the basis for trusting him with ultimate control over the domain names?

If memory serves me correctly, sirus and satoshi both founded the forum, so it would make sense for sirus to take it over when satoshi left, and theymos was active around here in the very early days, was made a moderator, made his way up the "ranks" to eventually be made an administrator, and presumably ran the forum well enough to eventually have control over the server.

From what I can tell, cobra just kinda appeared out of nowhere and was running things.

Who is Will Binns

He is a professor at Stanford, Maintainer of Nakamoto Fund and founder of dcdt

Sirius, a.k.a. Martti Malmi, was the second Bitcoin developer after Satoshi and the founder of the Bitcoin Forum. He's not an active developer anymore, but continues to manage the domain names bitcointalk.org and bitcoin.org.

Reference : https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Sirius

If I combine everything in this thread and bitcoin wiki then it is obvious that "Cobra" is "Sirius"

And it's obvious Sirius is not Cobra. If he was, he'd just say he is. There's no point in him creating an anonymous persona just for this.