HACKED PLS HELP

[cellard]

There's still a chance that he used his real IP.. there's dumb people out there. He should ask cryptopia for the details and see if he can catch the thief.

IP isn't the easiest way to find someone. Getting the information about the user often requires a court order from whichever jurisdiction the IP is located in and I'm not sure if they would consider it if its just a relatively small case. The easiest way out is to just say that you weren't the one that did it and they can't pursue it anymore. IP addresses aren't concrete evidence that someone is guilty.

If cryptopia see that when i withdraw, i wasnt on the same ip or even the same region, can they get back my money. you guys told me that with my wallet maybe i could have done something, is their a way if cryptopia acept to help me ? Noob question incoming, if i send 0.00001 to his wallet, can i track the transaction ?

No and no. They can't do anything and you can't track the funds if they've used a mixer.

Well i offer 7 btc to the person who get back my 14 btc, is that enought ?

No. You can offer all the Bitcoins you have in the world. No one can reverse Bitcoin transactions and your Bitcoins are lost.

Sure, IP doesn't mean much anymore, but in the small chance that the attacker didn't use an VPN or Tor or a proxy of sorts, there's still hope to caught whoever was involved when the thief happened. Exchanges keep logs, if the IP is the real one, sure, it would be a mess if the guy lives overseas, but there's still SOME hope, it's better than nothing. I mean fuck, 14 BTC? that's a lot of money. In the next few years it will be worth a couple $millions. You wouldn't even try if you were OP? I know I would.

But then again, OP is definitely nuts. He had 14 BTC in some exchange and he was using iPads to deal with Bitcoin stuff... he was asking for it.

[kingsters]

what's this exchange wallet address or ?

[3acaga]

Hello, I'm sympathetic to you, but now this will be a good lesson for you - for the future you must remember that storing such a lot of bitcoins on the exchange is a big mistake ...

[pushups44]

At least the OP had 2FA enabled. I agree that this is suspicious. iOS is considered secure, though it's not fool-proof. If it was a hacker, it's obvious the Apple device was compromised, unless it was an inside job. I also agree with commenters who distrust Cryptopia. It's not advisable to keep 14 BTC of cryptocurrency in such a small, arguably non-reputable exchange.

[girirohit957]

That's really bad , and Bitcoin transaction are not reversed and if you think you are hacked you can't do anything by getting the ip address from cryptopia too , because hackers dont use the real ip address , but please explain or elaborate all the incident took place in your case , so the new people can learn what to do or what not ,  it will help bitcoin community,

[fabioganga]

Something still doesn't match up. If you had 2FA enabled, especially, then either the hacker has control of your 2FA device, or he managed to login (or stay logged in for a time), or he already has access to Cryptopia internally.

What's also strange is those 143 withdrawals in 2 days. That's a lot of 2fa confirmations if all of that came from cryptopia, and it should have somehow flagged their system too. Probably coincidence of 143 withdrawals for 14.3 BTC but usually these coincidences aren't.

That's really tough you can't do anything about it except lodge a report with law enforcement as bob123 suggests. That should assist with getting forensics from Cryptopia. Don't want to wet the blanket but don't expect anything from here though.

I agree 100% with you that something doesn't add up. Also, it is imperative to remember that coins should be left at the exchange JUST FOR THE TIME NEEDED to complete a transaction, it would be insane to leave coins sitting there for a long time.

For instance, let's assume we want to sell some altcoin. FIRST, we look at the market and decide if the day we want to trade is good for us. If it is not, we wait until it is and ONLY THEN we deposit the coins! Immediately after the deposit is credited we sell them and IMMEDIATELY withdraw out of the exchange the coins we wanted to receive to a wallet that doesn't sit at the exchange.

If I had the equivalent of the value of 14 BTC at an exchange I would make sure that everything I need to do is dealt with as fast as I can.

It is shocking to believe that these elementary rules of common sense are so often neglected.

I would NEVER leave so much money out of my reach at any exchange, let alone CRAPtopia!

[teamzeropoint]

Definitely out of the ordinary. Very few accounts have I seen hacked with 2FA enabled unless the device is compromised.

[nc50lc]

Is this really a Hacking incident or maybe his fault?
Can you please tell us the Bookmarked link of Crytopia in your browser, it might be a fake site.

What doesn't add up is his given address in the OP,

what's this exchange wallet address or ?

If it is an exchange wallet, the transactions will not look like that.
It looks like an address within a wallet, and some transactions indicates that the address was used as "change" address sometime.
Was it the culprit's address?

[al maruf]

Explain what happened, step by step, and what you need help with,The biggest weakness of Bitcoin is that it is not a sovereign currency, it is completely unknown to each other for both sides, so can not get back.

[Bitc0ineX]

I am using cryptopia, someone acces my account, sold every crypto i had, withdrew to this address. Now im pretty fucked. I have ask cryptopia's support if they can send me the log of my account so i can have the ip, cause the dude clearly got on my account.

why did you use cryptopia?
i had same problem with cryptopia
in last week i received an email that said someone accessed my wallet but i was lucky, i sent money to my electrum in march
all people knew that trading sites isnt safe
see bittrex thread here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2279516.0

but bro please say goodbye to your btc, because there is no way to access your money

[drm]

OP what's your explanation for the hacker getting around you 2fa? Did you receive codes?

[Hamphser]

Something still doesn't match up. If you had 2FA enabled, especially, then either the hacker has control of your 2FA device, or he managed to login (or stay logged in for a time), or he already has access to Cryptopia internally.

What's also strange is those 143 withdrawals in 2 days. That's a lot of 2fa confirmations if all of that came from cryptopia, and it should have somehow flagged their system too. Probably coincidence of 143 withdrawals for 14.3 BTC but usually these coincidences aren't.

That's really tough you can't do anything about it except lodge a report with law enforcement as bob123 suggests. That should assist with getting forensics from Cryptopia. Don't want to wet the blanket but don't expect anything from here though.

I agree 100% with you that something doesn't add up. Also, it is imperative to remember that coins should be left at the exchange JUST FOR THE TIME NEEDED to complete a transaction, it would be insane to leave coins sitting there for a long time.

For instance, let's assume we want to sell some altcoin. FIRST, we look at the market and decide if the day we want to trade is good for us. If it is not, we wait until it is and ONLY THEN we deposit the coins! Immediately after the deposit is credited we sell them and IMMEDIATELY withdraw out of the exchange the coins we wanted to receive to a wallet that doesn't sit at the exchange.

If I had the equivalent of the value of 14 BTC at an exchange I would make sure that everything I need to do is dealt with as fast as I can.

It is shocking to believe that these elementary rules of common sense are so often neglected.

I would NEVER leave so much money out of my reach at any exchange, let alone CRAPtopia!

Been wondering the same thing the last 2 day transactions do involve lots of tx withdrawals which same as being said it would really be needed lots of 2fa confirmations which as a hacker i wont really make things too long and transfer all in one to avoid hassle. There are really still some people who dont really put up into their minds that we should not store huge quantity of bitcoin into an exchange wallet because you will surely face problems later on.Once money been transferred theres no way you can able to recover it up.

[bob123]

i believe that the op took his money out of cryptopia using a vpn then started yelling about hacks.
worst case scenario he lost nothing.
best case scenario he doubles his money.

While it indeed might sound strange leaving such a high amount on an exchange, i think it is not correct to allege fraudelent attempts.
There is no 'best case scenario' for him. The exchange won't give him his money back if someone logged into his account and withdraw it.
That would be pretty dumb by an exchange and is never going to happen.

So in my opinion OP doesn't have much to win.

You simply cant expect me to believe you got hacked on mac with 2 FA mail and password to your name.

Trains of thought like yours let people being naive about their storage of BTC's.

Google Authenticator's mobile application can be 'cloned' by an attacker (Having access to all GA codes at any time).
This task is not trivial, but also not extremely tough to accomplish..

MAC's may sound more secured than windows because of the majority of malware being written for windows, but this is a fallacy.
An attacker does not have to invest more time to attack a specific target on a MAC than one on windows.


If a few factors play together (e.g. missing updates + careless behavior + publicly available information + ... ) it is definetely conceivable that OP really got 'hacked'.
It is wrong to assume that this is not possible.

[bonus80]

Either a PC/MAC or Cryptopia hack is not impossible. It happens every day. 2FA unfortunately doesnt give full security.

[fcklife]

i used to recieve emails from cryptopia that my account was hacked and they will give a phising site for you to log in your account and puff. you got hacked. luckily i dont have assets on that exchange. feel sorry for you.

[crypto1010]

I see you have set a 7 BTC bounty to get the person at the end of the money trail, just need more details about this:

• Did you have 2fa set
• Was the account fully verified or partly verifoed as I know cryptopia has withdraw limits which could help establish if this was an external or inside job
• Was you email address compromised as well as there is a secondary security of confirming withdraw via email ad

Hope you get leads to recover your funds, good luck

[Qartersa]

7 BTC or 100 BTC, it doesn't matter. No one can really help you. Unless you can track which address it finally ends up with and that wallet is linked to a real person in the real world, then no one can really do anything but track your bitcoins where it is going. If it ends up with a wallet that has KYC on it then you have a chance, if not then you're serious in for a ride to finding that address.

Another thing that would make it extremely hard for you is the fact that mixers have been really getting more and more complex and they promise their customers that their transaction data are all wiped clean after each one. So tracking just came to a whole new level.

Oh by the way, once you are able to track the guy who he is, then you have to probably litigate to force him to give back your coins. Which will likely be a pain in the ass due to the fact that there is really not much laws that would help you.

Lastly, what if the guys is from another country? Then that again makes it a lot more complicated some more. Well it just keeps on escalating real quick.