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philipma1957
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February 01, 2014, 02:03:30 PM |
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Yes I voted for this. 5 shares worth. and as of today we are at 13btc in earnings so 13 + 28 = 41 btc about .1 btc each share and we would be done with this round. https://blockchain.info/address/1CR3h3SLewfcYK4XGySe4bgKwXV2VYqvVVwe would have a btc loss of .15 per share and a fiat gain of about 220usd a share. |
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February 01, 2014, 03:59:16 PM |
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The instructions that were given where to sign a message with the word Yes or No nothing else according to the current results there are only 4 valid votes.
If you placed an invalid vote please resubmit with the signed message only for the last question.
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davecoin
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February 01, 2014, 05:08:58 PM |
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Voted, thank you.
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philipma1957
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February 01, 2014, 05:19:31 PM |
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The instructions that were given where to sign a message with the word Yes or No nothing else according to the current results there are only 4 valid votes.
If you placed an invalid vote please resubmit with the signed message only for the last question.
it won't let me go back and vote yes. So according to the score card it is 20 yes and 1 no  |
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philipma1957
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February 01, 2014, 05:23:39 PM |
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make it 24 to 1  |
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Ridicuss
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February 01, 2014, 10:40:50 PM |
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I think its 27 to 1 now. I voted.
The way I understand this is it is not really 27 to 1. If it is straight yes or no then 27 to 1 is correct. It would be by percentage shares against the total. i.e. I voted to sell my 40 shares of 400 shares. That would be 10% of the vote. The 2 shares for the no vote would only be .5 percent of the vote.
Im sure the officials will chime in here and I can not speak for the CO-OP. I doubt we will get all 400 shares to vote so I guess if a large part of the shares do vote and more than 50% are to sell then they will sell.
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Man, I wish I could change my avatar!
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Tiennou74
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February 01, 2014, 10:56:37 PM |
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Tough to sell when making a .15btc loss per share...
That's almost $500 for my 4 shares
If we mined until no longer profitable would we get closer to ROI?
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February 01, 2014, 11:21:06 PM |
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The problem with waiting is that the value of the hardware will likely decline over time (in terms of USD). My single vote for one share is to sell while the hardware still has some value. The original price as I recall was in USD. The BTC I had to send in strictly an inconvenient contrivance. My metric is USD loss/gain, not BTC.
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philipma1957
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February 01, 2014, 11:51:06 PM |
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Tough to sell when making a .15btc loss per share...
That's almost $500 for my 4 shares
If we mined until no longer profitable would we get closer to ROI?
please do not think it is possible for btc roi. but we did make fiat roi. we are down .25 btc a share. here is the no sale math feb 1 we earned - .030 feb 15 we may earn- . 025 march 1 we may earn .020 march 15 we may earn .015 apr 1 we may earn .012 this adds up to .102 by apr 1st 2 full months from now. no fees were used to get that number. 2 months is a long time in btc. |
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Ridicuss
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February 02, 2014, 12:25:48 AM |
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Tough to sell when making a .15btc loss per share...
That's almost $500 for my 4 shares
If we mined until no longer profitable would we get closer to ROI?
please do not think it is possible for btc roi. but we did make fiat roi. we are down .25 btc a share. here is the no sale math feb 1 we earned - .030 feb 15 we may earn- . 025 march 1 we may earn .020 march 15 we may earn .015 apr 1 we may earn .012 this adds up to .102 by apr 1st 2 full months from now. no fees were used to get that number. 2 months is a long time in btc. I am not trying to be doom an gloom and I do want each to vote what they want to do. Philip's numbers have pretty much been bang on. This time he may not be able to predict very well because of coming difficulty increases between now and April 1. Look at the hashrate that has hit the network in the last couple of days. http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficultyPhilips numbers may still be close but a lot of larger machines are entering the market place for the consumer and the industrial miner. |
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philipma1957
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February 02, 2014, 12:38:46 AM |
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Tough to sell when making a .15btc loss per share...
That's almost $500 for my 4 shares
If we mined until no longer profitable would we get closer to ROI?
please do not think it is possible for btc roi. but we did make fiat roi. we are down .25 btc a share. here is the no sale math feb 1 we earned - .030 feb 15 we may earn- . 025 march 1 we may earn .020 march 15 we may earn .015 apr 1 we may earn .012 this adds up to .102 by apr 1st 2 full months from now. no fees were used to get that number. 2 months is a long time in btc. I am not trying to be doom an gloom and I do want each to vote what they want to do. Philip's numbers have pretty much been bang on. This time he may not be able to predict very well because of coming difficulty increases between now and April 1. Look at the hashrate that has hit the network in the last couple of days. http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficultyPhilips numbers may still be close but a lot of larger machines are entering the market place for the consumer and the industrial miner. those figures I used represent the best numbers possible. more then likely this round would earn the .1btc a share on may 1 not april 1. I rahter have the .1btc a share today. If round 17 was all good I would be fuck it let this ride. but round 17 has a major problem. A problem large enough to possibly result in the end of the coop. If black arrow goes poof the coop is really hurting. If black arrow send us hash power may 31 the coop may live. I want the .5 btc my 5 shares would get me. |
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February 02, 2014, 01:02:22 AM |
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Tough to sell when making a .15btc loss per share...
That's almost $500 for my 4 shares
If we mined until no longer profitable would we get closer to ROI?
please do not think it is possible for btc roi. but we did make fiat roi. we are down .25 btc a share. here is the no sale math feb 1 we earned - .030 feb 15 we may earn- . 025 march 1 we may earn .020 march 15 we may earn .015 apr 1 we may earn .012 this adds up to .102 by apr 1st 2 full months from now. no fees were used to get that number. 2 months is a long time in btc. I am not trying to be doom an gloom and I do want each to vote what they want to do. Philip's numbers have pretty much been bang on. This time he may not be able to predict very well because of coming difficulty increases between now and April 1. Look at the hashrate that has hit the network in the last couple of days. http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficultyPhilips numbers may still be close but a lot of larger machines are entering the market place for the consumer and the industrial miner. those figures I used represent the best numbers possible. more then likely this round would earn the .1btc a share on may 1 not april 1. I rahter have the .1btc a share today. If round 17 was all good I would be fuck it let this ride. but round 17 has a major problem. A problem large enough to possibly result in the end of the coop. If black arrow goes poof the coop is really hurting. If black arrow send us hash power may 31 the coop may live. I want the .5 btc my 5 shares would get me. Philip, I hope you did not take offense to the way I wrote that. Your math and analytic skills are impeccable. I respect all you have calculated for us and greatly appreciate it. You have let me be a lot lazier.  I just wanted to point out that spike in hashrate, that kind of surprised me. I believe it will be starts and spurts like this for some time now. Regards, M |
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philipma1957
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February 02, 2014, 01:23:42 AM |
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Tough to sell when making a .15btc loss per share...
That's almost $500 for my 4 shares
If we mined until no longer profitable would we get closer to ROI?
please do not think it is possible for btc roi. but we did make fiat roi. we are down .25 btc a share. here is the no sale math feb 1 we earned - .030 feb 15 we may earn- . 025 march 1 we may earn .020 march 15 we may earn .015 apr 1 we may earn .012 this adds up to .102 by apr 1st 2 full months from now. no fees were used to get that number. 2 months is a long time in btc. I am not trying to be doom an gloom and I do want each to vote what they want to do. Philip's numbers have pretty much been bang on. This time he may not be able to predict very well because of coming difficulty increases between now and April 1. Look at the hashrate that has hit the network in the last couple of days. http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficultyPhilips numbers may still be close but a lot of larger machines are entering the market place for the consumer and the industrial miner. those figures I used represent the best numbers possible. more then likely this round would earn the .1btc a share on may 1 not april 1. I rahter have the .1btc a share today. If round 17 was all good I would be fuck it let this ride. but round 17 has a major problem. A problem large enough to possibly result in the end of the coop. If black arrow goes poof the coop is really hurting. If black arrow send us hash power may 31 the coop may live. I want the .5 btc my 5 shares would get me. Philip, I hope you did not take offense to the way I wrote that. Your math and analytic skills are impeccable. I respect all you have calculated for us and greatly appreciate it. You have let me be a lot lazier. I just wanted to point out that spike in hashrate, that kind of surprised me. I believe it will be starts and spurts like this for some time now. Regards, M No worries I get lazy and don't always full write explanations down. the full explanation can just take a real long time and fill up way too much space. We are all a bunch of blind men trying to make some sense of this rather large elephant. My take is if 17 was great if r9 -12 never had hash short fall if 15 + 16 had not a problem with the move. if 5 + 6 had not stopped on and off with hash rate we might all be inclined to let r9-12 ride so to speak. Well all of the above has been a problem So I do not want to let r9-r12 hash. The realistic max of earned btc by april 1- may1 is about .1btc selling the gear may 1 will not be a lot of coin for us. It is worth more now. If you think btc will jump just hold onto the buyout money. |
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February 02, 2014, 02:57:48 AM |
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Payment for the last 15 days received. Thanks Thomas!
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February 02, 2014, 08:24:15 AM |
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Payment for the last 15 days received. Thanks Thomas!
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philipma1957
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February 02, 2014, 03:50:32 PM |
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I got my 15 day payment.
how are we on the sale and the .07 btc a share?
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thomas_s
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February 02, 2014, 04:01:52 PM |
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I got my 15 day payment.
how are we on the sale and the .07 btc a share?
It seems a decent amount of people want to sell, based on the public vote that was done before the official one (as more votes were cast there) ~100 As for the google doc vote, only a handfull of share actually signed the message so there is no proof that the others besides me and the 40 shares that belong to Ridicuss want to sell. After the Chinese new year the offer prices will start to drop by a decent amount. |
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February 02, 2014, 05:11:08 PM |
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The Email I got suggested that it was also possible to PM thomas_s and provide sufficient evidence of ownership that didn't include a "signed" message. Isn't that correct? Have you had a chance to look at your PM's yet?
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philipma1957
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February 02, 2014, 05:12:05 PM |
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I got my 15 day payment.
how are we on the sale and the .07 btc a share?
It seems a decent amount of people want to sell, based on the public vote that was done before the official one (as more votes were cast there) ~100 As for the google doc vote, only a handfull of share actually signed the message so there is no proof that the others besides me and the 40 shares that belong to Ridicuss want to sell. After the Chinese new year the offer prices will start to drop by a decent amount. that's right blame us for not signing correctly. meanwhile I signed it 4 different ways yes. you have a 90% plus yes vote. you should just sell the gear. btw the way the change in gear from black arrow to s-1 miners was not approved you just did it. show me a clear vote on that switch. |
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