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November 09, 2013, 01:55:38 PM
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The more you play, the more you're likely to lose them all. Don't play BTC gambling games to try and make you rick or "turn 0.24 btc into 0.25 btc for a nice number, they're not worth it. Only gamble if you want to lose your coins.



Above is a post TradeFortress made one year ago, titled "Stop gambling your coins unless you're playing for entertainment!", but, did he stop gambling?

NO.

According to dooglus of Just-Dice, TradeFortress(hid: 35) is still listed on JD's biggest bets list. So did he place bets for a few hundreds of bitcoins just for entertainment?

In this reddit thread it's said TF made all time high bets on JD, is that true?

Yes, it's true.  There was talk at the time of his 561 BTC bet being a new "biggest ever BTC bet".

On 29th June, BTC was trading on Mt.Gox between $93 and $98.

Three of his bets are still listed on https://just-dice.com/biggest.txt :

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biggest bets in last 52 weeks

+-----------+---------------+----------------+---------+--------+---------------------+
| betid     | bet           | profit         | chance  | uid    | date                |
+-----------+---------------+----------------+---------+--------+---------------------+
|   7093577 |  561.29526541 |     5.72750179 |      98 |     35 | 2013-06-29 04:59:20 |
|   7079332 |  497.14723423 |    32.07401559 |      93 |     35 | 2013-06-29 04:21:59 |
|   6966857 |  497.14723423 |    32.07401559 |      93 |     35 | 2013-06-29 01:01:37 |
+-----------+---------------+----------------+---------+--------+---------------------+

Edit: From the Just-Dice chat logs:

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(35) <gladoscc> dooglus: am I still the biggest bet or do I need to bet more again Tongue
(1) <dooglus> you're still the biggest
(1) <dooglus> (and you need to bet again Wink )

It's hard to know how much TradeFortress lost on JD, but he did lose 100 BTC on SatoshiDice: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1492362#msg1492362

After the "hack", TF still gambled a lot on Luckybit using this address: http://blockchain.info/address/13VXUBDBd6Jwsz7euG59BmanHEMA5EkcA1 (proof that this address belongs to him: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118673.msg1291743#msg1291743 )

So who's TradeFortress?

(To be continued, next I'll release some basic info of TradeFortress in Chinese perspective, though TradeFortress only moved to Australia when he was 17 in 2002, who obviously has a good understanding of Chinese, when he was interacting with his Chinese investors, he pretended to be a foreigner who doesn't know Chinese at all and used google translation to reply(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=286866.msg3236239#msg3236239 ), which was very suspicious, I'll write more next.)



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Doing this need endless reading of different kind of materials, TF's posts in bitcointalk alone run more than 300 hundred pages, any donation would be appreciated: 1DNqicSPr1ToCG4dYb1oCc5FnFfVA3Ni6i

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November 09, 2013, 09:17:00 PM
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I can't see how TF might even be able to fully refund actually ...

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November 11, 2013, 02:03:48 AM
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I can't see how TF might even be able to fully refund actually ...

He can't/  I'm surprised so much people, including myself, trusted him when he didn't even give a full DOX of himself to an escrow, while holding thousands of bitcoins for other users.
I never knew he gambled, but looking at this should make him feel ashamed...
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November 11, 2013, 03:30:52 AM
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Inputs.io has not enough revenue even to pay for the signature ads, and as a freelance programmer who even is not good at it, TradeFotress himself doesn't make a lot of BTCs.

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November 13, 2013, 11:14:48 AM
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I'm not rich but I'm not a thief.
I gambled before but I'm not a thief.
So I disagree u.

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November 13, 2013, 11:19:18 AM
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Thank god I used Blockchain instead of Inputs.io. Seems like his in a bit of pickle, hopefully someone gets his dox.  Undecided

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November 13, 2013, 01:35:26 PM
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Wait... WAIT... this guy has been gambling AFTER the hack?!?
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November 13, 2013, 01:56:49 PM
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for bitcents on a site that is +EV at tjhat moment. Stop bashing him

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November 13, 2013, 02:17:21 PM
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Wait... WAIT... this guy has been gambling AFTER the hack?!?

No. He made big bets on Just-Dice ages ago, months before the hack.
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November 13, 2013, 02:25:46 PM
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Wait... WAIT... this guy has been gambling AFTER the hack?!?

No. He made big bets on Just-Dice ages ago, months before the hack.

He actually was gambling after the hack:
https://blockchain.info/address/13VXUBDBd6Jwsz7euG59BmanHEMA5EkcA1?sort=0

Notice the LuckyBit bets and the dice bet.

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November 15, 2013, 07:06:38 AM
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Someone send me IP info of TF, which I'm not able to verify currently, will release it when there are more proofs.

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November 15, 2013, 11:25:10 PM
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I don't have a ton to say on the matter other then it is all just a shame. Also don't gamble with BTC what u can't afford to lose.

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November 15, 2013, 11:51:33 PM
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I am going to watch this. Gambling after the hack? Dafuck.

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November 16, 2013, 12:17:58 AM
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Yea that seems highly irresponsible IMHO.  Sort of a slap in the face for those that lost BTC.

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November 16, 2013, 08:35:45 AM
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I'm not rich but I'm not a thief.
I gambled before but I'm not a thief.
So I disagree u.


All ducks are birds.
All chickens are birds.
Therefore, all ducks are chickens.

Honestly, I can understand gambling small amounts. I've done it on occasion (0.01 BTC @ $10, 0.0003 @$400), but gambling that much money isn't for fun. It's a compulsive gambler's move. "If I bet a lot of money on the best odds, I won't profit as much, but there's an extremely low chance that I'll lose!" And that works, until it doesn't. Then when all the money is lost, the gambler will find a reason to put more money in. I'm rambling a bit, but trusting someone who would gamble thousands of dollars at once with thousands of BTC...  Lips sealed

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November 16, 2013, 09:30:50 AM
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Because he's busy spending that stolen 4100 coins to hire a good lawyer, in order not to be raped in jail.
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November 17, 2013, 02:25:23 PM
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TradeFortress IP info:

IP Lookup Location For IP Address: 58.111.143.105
Continent:   Oceania (OC)
Country:   Australia   (AU)
Capital:   Canberra
State:   New South Wales
City Location:   Turramurra
Postal:   2074
ISP:   Optus
Organization:   Optus
Time zone:   Australia/Sydney

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November 17, 2013, 02:36:32 PM
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TradeFortress IP info:

IP Lookup Location For IP Address: 58.111.143.105
Continent:   Oceania (OC)
Country:   Australia   (AU)
Capital:   Canberra
State:   New South Wales
City Location:   Turramurra
Postal:   2074
ISP:   Optus
Organization:   Optus
Time zone:   Australia/Sydney
A full verifiable dox has been posted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=327178.0

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November 17, 2013, 03:23:12 PM
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Seriously, if TF is trying to hard to scam everyone why do partial refund?

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November 17, 2013, 03:45:53 PM
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Seriously, if TF is trying to hard to scam everyone why do partial refund?
You again? I already told you. That way he keeps his trust (partially) and he could do another scam.

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