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April 15, 2018, 04:46:20 PM
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Make a list from 2-3 years ago - most normal posters stopped visiting politics&society

Why would that list be relevant in any which way?
If they have stopped visiting the sub and haven't reported a post within the last 3-months, then why would that matter?

Because this people have easily the experience to be mods and just didnt go there anymore because nobody was giving a fuck regarding moderation of the sub in the last 3 years.

I could get 1000 x 5 legit reports in 1 day in this trash can.

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No thanks i dont want to be mod.

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April 15, 2018, 04:47:36 PM
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Politics and Society section really is a trash site. It is maybe because there is no assigned Moderator(s) in that area before, until now. I don't actually visit that section too much but, if I only have enough knowledge to be a moderator. Why not? I will be proud to volunteer to myself to Moderate that trash site and clean all junks there. I know there is no benefit by volunteering in that section and it will be difficult but its worth it because it will clean up all the mess and will lessen all shitposts which will help the forum to improve. A responsible moderator is really necessary. For now, all I can do is to support whoever is willing to volunteer.

But from the list Sir theymos provided. I will vote any from these five.
1. LoyceV                     30%
2. Flying Hellfish         30%
3. Vod                           25%
4. Nullius                     10%
5. Iasenko                    5%

The percentage represents how much I would like to give my vote. All of them are responsible and trusted  members of this Forum.

I would also like to vote Sir rickbig41 but he's already a moderator in Philippines local board. Monitoring and moderating two section at a time is a little difficult (I guess). Also suggesting Sir Jet  Grin

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April 15, 2018, 05:24:26 PM
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I would also like to vote Sir rickbig41 but he's already a moderator in Philippines local board. Monitoring and moderating two section at a time is a little difficult (I guess). Also suggesting Sir Jet  Grin
He's also now a global moderator which I believe is a somewhat recent thing?

Because this people have easily the experience to be mods and just didnt go there anymore because nobody was giving a fuck regarding moderation of the sub in the last 3 years.

I could get 1000 x 5 legit reports in 1 day in this trash can.

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No thanks i dont want to be mod.

I'm not doubting you could get a 1000 reports each day or even more for that matter, but judging by the amount of reports which have been made no one is willing to do just that. Even if we were to add up the top 20 reporters in Politics and Society it wouldn't be anywhere close. Just because someone can doesn't mean they do or will.
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April 15, 2018, 05:26:47 PM
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I would also like to vote Sir rickbig41 but he's already a moderator in Philippines local board. Monitoring and moderating two section at a time is a little difficult (I guess). Also suggesting Sir Jet  Grin
He's also now a global moderator.

Because this people have easily the experience to be mods and just didnt go there anymore because nobody was giving a fuck regarding moderation of the sub in the last 3 years.

I could get 1000 x 5 legit reports in 1 day in this trash can.

Ps:

No thanks i dont want to be mod.

I'm not doubting you could get a 1000 reports each day or even more for that matter, but judging by the amount of reports which have been made no one is willing to do just that.

Correct - people gave up reporting shitposts in that sub because nobody of the mods were actually cleaning up there.

I think most of them went way to easy based on the free speech and diversity of opinions idea.

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April 15, 2018, 05:58:29 PM
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I'm not doubting you could get a 1000 reports each day
If someone was willing to devote 8 hours to looking around P&S, I bet they could report 1000 posts and probably have a decent hit rate at that.  It would just take some time--the garbage is there; it just needs to be moved to the dumpster.  Having said that, I'm not certain Theymos even wants that or any other section emptied of content altogether.

I say that because of how Bitcoin Discussion is.  I'm pretty sure Hilariousandco would trashcan many posts in that section, but he doesn't, and I suspect that has more to do with what Theymos wants than what hilariousandco wants.  I don't know what the highest # of posts I've reported in a day, but it's probably close to 100--and that's in my spare time, without getting paid or even wanting to be a moderator.  1000 would be no problem to send to the can, IF you were allowed to.

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April 15, 2018, 10:59:18 PM
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I'm not doubting you could get a 1000 reports each day
If someone was willing to devote 8 hours to looking around P&S, I bet they could report 1000 posts and probably have a decent hit rate at that.  It would just take some time--the garbage is there; it just needs to be moved to the dumpster.  Having said that, I'm not certain Theymos even wants that or any other section emptied of content altogether.

I say that because of how Bitcoin Discussion is.  I'm pretty sure Hilariousandco would trashcan many posts in that section, but he doesn't, and I suspect that has more to do with what Theymos wants than what hilariousandco wants.  I don't know what the highest # of posts I've reported in a day, but it's probably close to 100--and that's in my spare time, without getting paid or even wanting to be a moderator.  1000 would be no problem to send to the can, IF you were allowed to.

I can confirm this to be true.
I went to P&S 2 days ago, spent half an hour there, did a 100 reports and got my reported accuracy from 97% to 100% (lol, guess rounding?  Cheesy).

It's not a matter of who reported 7 or 247 posts, but who's willing to spend time there continually to clean it.
A 1000 reported posts would be easy peasy.

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April 16, 2018, 12:20:32 AM
Last edit: April 16, 2018, 01:53:28 AM by digaran
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Now people are making sense. thank you. somebody right now is dealing with reports from that section, even though I said that I wont report them, how else could they know what is generally considered worthy of deletion by me?

EDIT: now they have locked some of the threads containing my post(s) to see what other excuses I could come up with for not reporting.

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April 16, 2018, 10:26:50 AM
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I'm pretty sure Hilariousandco would trashcan many posts in that section, but he doesn't, and I suspect that has more to do with what Theymos wants than what hilariousandco wants. 

I don't know what he wants, but on both fronts it probably comes down to time and energy. I've wasted countless hours trashing threads in that board but it barely makes a dent and never will as long as there's shitposters getting paid to shitpost so you need to tackle the problem at its source first. Most of the threads in there are trash but deleting them just opens a rabbit hole and it would be a full time job for me or someone else to clean up that section adequately. One or two people can't win a war against thousands... thousands who are getting paid to make the junk so there needs to be change at the top for anything to be effective.

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April 16, 2018, 11:03:21 AM
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The sad thing is is those answers are probably more articulate than your average P&S ones.
Oh, I'd say by a factor of 5 at least.

I vote for Flying Hellfish.  He's obviously level-headed and seems like he can do the job.  Meanwhile, digaran is following in the footsteps of mixan in having a very public prizefight with sanity.  And if you take a look at mixan's trust score, well...

Edit:  I'll be damned.  Looks like mixan logged in recently.  I wonder if the nutty person who earned all that negative feedback is still the one in control of the account.

digaran just seems like a troll who can't speak English very well so his intent gets lost in translation. Either that or he's an idiot. Either way, I don't think he should be a mod for obvious reasons. Flying Hellfish would seem like the best choice so far. I think all sub boards should have two dedicated mods so maybe we should allocate another existing staff member as well (though rickjbig recently got made a Global mod so maybe he can help out there).

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April 16, 2018, 11:59:56 AM
Last edit: April 16, 2018, 05:07:37 PM by iasenko
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When will be selected the new mod/mods/? I guess it will take some time.

In the meantime can I entertain you with some examples of extreme shitposters accumulating activity there. They don't even try to post in English.. just a quick look>

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1978356;sa=showPosts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1269323;sa=showPosts;start=160
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1702830;sa=showPosts;start=20
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1855652;sa=showPosts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1989640;sa=showPosts

Only 5 here but I can go on..

It's the same situation in the  Economy / Economics section.

Hope theymos finds a good solution to all this because just a few Mods cannot beat this horde of shitposters even working on a full-time job.


Edited: I'm not immune to typos, sorry.



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Hope theymost ...

Fool, its not TheyMost, its THEYMUST find a good mod. #PunIntended
I think iasenko is referring to Sir theymos. Because if it really is TheyMust, then what is the subject of "they must" in this sentence? What particular subject he is referring to?
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Hope they must (lets assume) finds a good solution to all this because just a few Mods cannot beat this horde of shitposters even working on a full-time job.
So does it means iasenko is referring to some kind of organisation or what? Because of the word "they".
Which I think is Sir "theymos's" name Smiley

You didn't notice the  #PunIntended, right?

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April 16, 2018, 12:22:24 PM
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Also suggesting Sir Jet  Grin

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm too radical and politically incorrect to be a mod there.

I've also got too many people on ignore to moderate anything other than my temper. Smiley

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April 16, 2018, 03:18:35 PM
Last edit: April 16, 2018, 03:35:13 PM by legendster
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While I have not been reporting on the politics & society section, I have been reporting crap posts off lately, most actively on the services section. I was inactive for the last two and a half weeks due to health and electrical reasons and I'm more than willing to take up the responsibility to moderate this (or any other section).

If this post has a monthly recurring pay associated with it, I do not want it for the first month, I would let others judge me by my work.



Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm too radical and politically incorrect to be a mod there.

I've also got too many people on ignore to moderate anything other than my temper. Smiley

And you may also ban yourself on the odd chance that you ever piss yourself off.



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April 16, 2018, 04:15:35 PM
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Hope theymost ...

Fool, its not TheyMost, its THEYMUST find a good mod. #PunIntended
I think iasenko is referring to Sir theymos. Because if it really is TheyMust, then what is the subject of "they must" in this sentence? What particular subject he is referring to?
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Hope they must (lets assume) finds a good solution to all this because just a few Mods cannot beat this horde of shitposters even working on a full-time job.
So does it means iasenko is referring to some kind of organisation or what? Because of the word "they".
Which I think is Sir "theymos's" name Smiley


By the way. If no one really wants to Moderate society and politics section without any exchange, Please don't laugh but I would like to volunteer  Smiley . I think I can handle those shitposters by myself. But, please give me some advice what to do first as I'm not really good at this. But I can assure you guys that I can manage to monitor and delete spam posts in that section. I'm not visiting that section too much as I'm not interested on it but if by chance that I became a moderator for that section, I will pay my attention and focus for that section.  I know that some of you will (of course) somehow help me if I'm entitled to that moderating job. Support is all I need.

I know it will be a difficult job but, I will try my best. I'm serious. Its better to have me as a temporary Moderator (temporary because, please test me first for just a week if my moderating skills can improve something to that section) for that section than no one moderates it if no one really is interested to volunteer as a Moderator.
Please don't laugh at me. Instead leave some feedback about your thoughts in my idea.
So what do you think guys? Smiley I know some of you will say that I'm also a shitposter for sure.
I'm willing to take the job even without any good benefits for myself. Smiley

Please let me know your feedbacks first. Oh my, Silent26's running crazy.  Cheesy

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I think iasenko is referring to Sir theymos. Because if it really is TheyMust, then what is the subject of "they must" in this sentence? What particular subject he is referring to?
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Hope they must (lets assume) finds a good solution to all this because just a few Mods cannot beat this horde of shitposters even working on a full-time job.
So does it means iasenko is referring to some kind of organisation or what? Because of the word "they".
Which I think is Sir "theymos's" name Smiley

...I think I can handle those shitposters by myself...

Before you dabble in handling shitposters, understand what is implied when someone says #PunIntended. Its a wordplay on Theymos' name.


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April 16, 2018, 10:24:19 PM
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The sad thing is is those answers are probably more articulate than your average P&S ones.
Oh, I'd say by a factor of 5 at least.

I vote for Flying Hellfish.  He's obviously level-headed and seems like he can do the job.  Meanwhile, digaran is following in the footsteps of mixan in having a very public prizefight with sanity.  And if you take a look at mixan's trust score, well...

Edit:  I'll be damned.  Looks like mixan logged in recently.  I wonder if the nutty person who earned all that negative feedback is still the one in control of the account.

digaran just seems like a troll who can't speak English very well so his intent gets lost in translation. Either that or he's an idiot. Either way, I don't think he should be a mod for obvious reasons. Flying Hellfish would seem like the best choice so far. I think all sub boards should have two dedicated mods so maybe we should allocate another existing staff member as well (though rickjbig recently got made a Global mod so maybe he can help out there).

Translation: now that digaran made the rest of the cartel to stop acting like the members of the cartel, it's time for me to step up and voice my concern. Because everybody knows how neutral I am.

Translation part 2: forum should pay a full time job salary to whomever I vote for obvious reasons.

Translation part 3: forum is our playing field, we should keep it that way.


What you should have said (only a suggestion): As a global moderator and forum staff, I would like to voice my concerns. digaran is incompetent because he is not good at speaking english even though I can understand him. but forum has to hire a native english speaker. we don't want to cause any confusions in the future. he might delete some of the posts because of poor understanding of the language. this is alone a very good reason.

I'd also like to ask our dear friend Flying Hellfish to apply for a full time job and becomes the new moderator. theymos should pay him a full time job's salary and Flying Hellfish must work a full time job and if there is any need for another moderator, again digaran is not a good candidate period. we need to pay one of the staff members, an already experienced staff member to do the work. thanks before and after and in between.


What I can get from your post: digiron man, simply put. we don't like you man, why would you insist on this? let us pay a full time job's salary to Flying Hellfish. he might not work a full time, but it's not something you should concern yourself with. he is an american citizen and that is enough.


What other people see: they don't see different individuals voicing their concerns about me and supporting a good candidate, they see a group, a cartel saying the same thing to achieve the same result.
What you and other members of your cartel are saying here, is like one person posting with different accounts. you are not all one person but your end goal is the same. you are motivated to achieve one goal.

A neutral forum moderator should say: either Flying Hellfish applies for a full time job or we should wait and see if anybody else applies. this community deserves better.
Alia honey, where are you? I need a recharge sweety, come to papa.


A neutral global moderator deserves such a recharge. otherwise he could lose his own job to hungry volunteers.
An idiot troll with a potty mouth is the result of the same freedom of speech granted to us by theymos. if a 5 years old kid could understand this post. mission accomplished. if I could contribute anything to this community no matter how small and insignificant. mission accomplished. if I am making more enemies for myself for nothing. it's nothing for many but for me is expressing my opinions no matter who you are or what you can do to me.

You want more obvious reasons? if there was any obvious reasons. why would you all feel threatened? you either think I could really become a mod or you think theymos doesn't know what is best and needs a reminder such as "obvious reasons". thank you for your vote. conclusion is obvious reasons plus idiot troll.

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April 16, 2018, 10:38:38 PM
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Also suggesting Sir Jet  Grin

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm too radical and politically incorrect to be a mod there.

I've also got too many people on ignore to moderate anything other than my temper. Smiley
Given the OP I don't think Theymos would even want somebody politically correct to be a mod here.
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I think iasenko is referring to Sir theymos. Because if it really is TheyMust, then what is the subject of "they must" in this sentence? What particular subject he is referring to?
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Hope they must (lets assume) finds a good solution to all this because just a few Mods cannot beat this horde of shitposters even working on a full-time job.
So does it means iasenko is referring to some kind of organisation or what? Because of the word "they".
Which I think is Sir "theymos's" name Smiley

...I think I can handle those shitposters by myself...

Before you dabble in handling shitposters, understand what is implied when someone says #PunIntended. Its a wordplay on Theymos' name.
Well, I see, my apologies Sir.
So does it means that I failed the very first test to be eligible as a Moderator?  Cry

You didn't notice the  #PunIntended, right?
Yeah, I'm sorry.

Given the OP I don't think Theymos would even want somebody politically correct to be a mod here.
Based on Sir theymos's suggested members. Looks like they are based on how much time they often visit society and politics section. Of course, obviously, the more "reported members"  you have means the more time you spend visiting that section.

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I'm pretty sure Hilariousandco would trashcan many posts in that section, but he doesn't, and I suspect that has more to do with what Theymos wants than what hilariousandco wants. 

I don't know what he wants, but on both fronts it probably comes down to time and energy. I've wasted countless hours trashing threads in that board but it barely makes a dent and never will as long as there's shitposters getting paid to shitpost so you need to tackle the problem at its source first. Most of the threads in there are trash but deleting them just opens a rabbit hole and it would be a full time job for me or someone else to clean up that section adequately. One or two people can't win a war against thousands... thousands who are getting paid to make the junk so there needs to be change at the top for anything to be effective.

How can you not know? you are here for years and don't know what he wants? theymos wants to help people. he also wants people to help him. he wants to create opportunities for even Millions of people to earn money and improve their lives. he is trying to make major changes by supporting Bitcoin. he is also trying to motivate forum members to improve the quality of discussions. he wants to give people a chance for a better life.

People don't care, they don't get it. they would keep farming accounts and posting garbage. this is what they can do. nobody would help them not even their own governments. they would see no difference here, everybody trying to take and stay on top. when they see there is no justice, they would think
It's better to earn as much as they can before it's too late.

What theymos wants, is loyalty. he wants to trust people to work towards the same goal, not to build cartels and take control of everything. not to betray his trust. he wants more people like himself in charge. to do what he would do. all he has so far is power hungry people. garbage posters are posting garbage and people of authority are using their positions for their own benefits.

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he wants to create opportunities for even Millions of people to earn money and improve their lives. he is trying to make major changes by supporting Bitcoin.
Is that what the forum has been brought down to? A money-earning site? Makes it no better than a PTC programme.

he is also trying to motivate forum members to improve the quality of discussions. he wants to give people a chance for a better life.
The former is true. The latter is dubious and irrelevant.

People don't care, they don't get it. they would keep farming accounts and posting garbage. this is what they can do.
That's true. It's easy for them to farm accounts and lay waste to the forum.

when they see there is no justice, they would think
It's better to earn as much as they can before it's too late.
Account farmers would be around whether there's "justice" or not. I'm not sure what you're trying to say in regards to that, either.

all he has so far is power hungry people. garbage posters are posting garbage and people of authority are using their positions for their own benefits.
List examples of the power-hungry people. We already know there are spammers.
In this post you seem to do a lot of ass-kissing. Why? You're putting theymos on such a high pedestal. It's embarrassingly creepy.

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While I have not been reporting on the politics & society section, I have been reporting crap posts off lately, most actively on the services section. I was inactive for the last two and a half weeks due to health and electrical reasons and I'm more than willing to take up the responsibility to moderate this (or any other section).

If this post has a monthly recurring pay associated with it, I do not want it for the first month, I would let others judge me by my work.


You were inactive for more than 15 days just like Flying Hellfish, he logged in after master theymos posted this topic. you applied for the signature campaign. you are hungry as well.
Reason for not having you as a mod: you could disappear for weeks and have no way of communication. while I could login with my phone.
You are also asking if this post has any recurring payment, you should know that people usually wouldn't ask you to do something as difficult as moderating a section with thousands of garbage posts for free. you also didn't offer anything to compete with other applicants. maybe you thought that you are better or they don't have any chance?
Your first post here was to suck for people. SIR Silent26 the second. you don't have anything really useful to add to this topic. you'd suck and then ask for a job. throwing your hat to try your luck. it's not the usual bounty campaign we all are used to. this is not the place to keep saying Sir. you are not confident enough to give yourself any credit. why did you vote only for 5 people on the OP? you would ignore some people and would favour a few if you were a mod. if you really like to volunteer, start reporting garbage posts in Bitcoin discussion section.


Who reduced my report accuracy to 96% from %97? they were all repeating previous posts on previous pages, if you don't have the time to read my reports and check my previous reports to see the reason for reporting. don't take it on me please.
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