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April 10, 2018, 02:07:36 PM
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Hello guys,

I have a thought recently about the exchange value of bitcoin.

1 bitcoin can be equal to 5000usd or 20k usd, because the supply of usd is unlimited.

same goes to usd vs jpy or usd vs gpb, it will not fix.


so let say we have mined all bitcoins which is 21million.

the exchange value of bitcoin vs other coin will fix on its supply.

1btc = 5 neo ( total neo devide by total bitcoin)

1btc = 4761 xrp.


is this the right way to assume their exchange value in future?
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April 10, 2018, 02:14:00 PM
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I'm pretty sure not a single price whether it'd be bitcoin vs some other coin or bitcoin vs fiat will be "fixed". Heck, even fiat values aren't fixed. They go up and down all the time depending on the country's economy. In the end, it's always supply and demand. You can never assume 1BTC = 5NEO because there might be days whereas there are lots of NEO buyers and there are days that there will be alot of sellers.

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April 10, 2018, 05:25:15 PM
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You can not set a certain rate of any crypto currency with respect to bitcoin, so that this rate is fixed. In the world of crypto currency, everything changes very much and the price of any coin also. In addition, coins and tokens are still developing, their technology is being improved. Therefore, prices can not stand still, even in relation to other coins, including in relation to bitcoin.
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April 10, 2018, 05:35:00 PM
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You can not set a certain rate of any crypto currency with respect to bitcoin, so that this rate is fixed. In the world of crypto currency, everything changes very much and the price of any coin also. In addition, coins and tokens are still developing, their technology is being improved. Therefore, prices can not stand still, even in relation to other coins, including in relation to bitcoin.
Exactly, you have a point. Altcoins are continuing developing by their devs and some are manipulated by the owner like what OP said the equivalent of ripple to bitcoin. Ripple is centralized and I'm sure the price of it not based on bitcoin it is based on their supply.
So, you can't set a fix amount bitcoin to altcoins because they different characteristics in every coin compared to bitcoin.
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April 10, 2018, 05:52:04 PM
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Hello guys,

I have a thought recently about the exchange value of bitcoin.

1 bitcoin can be equal to 5000usd or 20k usd, because the supply of usd is unlimited.

same goes to usd vs jpy or usd vs gpb, it will not fix.


so let say we have mined all bitcoins which is 21million.

the exchange value of bitcoin vs other coin will fix on its supply.

1btc = 5 neo ( total neo devide by total bitcoin)

1btc = 4761 xrp.


is this the right way to assume their exchange value in future?
After the crisis of bitcoin the companion with the other crypts are started on words. So bitcoin is fighting it self to come back in to its past king position.To make it a bit more fast I request all bitcoiners to support bitcoin for this.
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April 10, 2018, 06:27:54 PM
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No.  Exchange rates are based on supply and demand, not just supply. 

If the market caps are different for different cryptocurrencies and fiat currencies, which they will inevitably continue to be, then what you suggest will not apply.

If we used your logic, Bitcoin would be worth millions because the 21 million BTC would have to have the same value as all US dollars on Earth.
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April 10, 2018, 06:42:28 PM
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The price of bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency is never fixed with respect to any fiat or other cryptocurrencies. The factors that affect the cryptocurrencies make fluctuations in the values of those currencies altering the equivalence of that particular crypto with other cryptocurrency or normal currency.
So there won't be any fixed equivalence of any cryptocurrencies whatsoever.
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April 10, 2018, 07:28:54 PM
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No.  Exchange rates are based on supply and demand, not just supply. 

If the market caps are different for different cryptocurrencies and fiat currencies, which they will inevitably continue to be, then what you suggest will not apply.

If we used your logic, Bitcoin would be worth millions because the 21 million BTC would have to have the same value as all US dollars on Earth.

yes this is what i meant. if bitcoin become the only currency accepted around the world. the world with no fiat. will this be the fix value for coin exchange.

by this logic "something fix" equals to how much the other. will it be like a measurement, 1meter equal to 100cm.


ps: i just remember that i read this in atomic swap topic. someone pointed out this kind of argument. cant remember exactly what he says.

i like to re read the topic if anyone remember it.
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April 10, 2018, 09:07:50 PM
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yes this is what i meant. if bitcoin become the only currency accepted around the world. the world with no fiat. will this be the fix value for coin exchange.

by this logic "something fix" equals to how much the other. will it be like a measurement, 1meter equal to 100cm.


ps: i just remember that i read this in atomic swap topic. someone pointed out this kind of argument. cant remember exactly what he says.

i like to re read the topic if anyone remember it.

Nope. If BTC becomes the only currency in a world with no fiat, it will still be subject to fluctuations.
To give you an example, you have 1BTC that is worth 10 ETH in that scenario, and NASA decides to build a giant colony ship that will go to Mars and the official currency of that ship and the newly formed colony will be ETH. You can expect the value of ETH to go up and ultimately be worth more, for instance 0.15 BTC per coin. 
As long as the economy changes prices of goods and currencies will never be fixed. We are evolving, 20 years from now somebody may find a way to crack sha256. If that happens the value of BTC will go down, regardless of whether there will be fiat or not.

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