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April 10, 2018, 09:20:14 PM
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Is it wrong when two accounts sharing the same computer(IP) ? Can it result in a ban?
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April 10, 2018, 09:33:31 PM
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No. It's allowed and you won't get banned. If one of the accounts get banned for what ever reason though expect the other one too as well.

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No. It's allowed and you won't get banned. If one of the accounts get banned for what ever reason though expect the other one too as well.
Bounty activities is not one of the reasons that gets accounts banned right?
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April 10, 2018, 10:14:45 PM
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Is it wrong when two accounts sharing the same computer(IP) ? Can it result in a ban?

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April 10, 2018, 11:54:54 PM
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If one of the accounts get banned for what ever reason though expect the other one too as well.

Can you please provide any examples of this happening in the past? I am curious about this, because if this is the case then it would seem to a hazard to use public/shared VPN(s), TOR nodes or anything like that. I don't believe that they simply would ban an account because it shares an IP with an offender. Otherwise, paying a fee for an "evil" IP would probably not be implemented, either.

I want to read up on some more official statements surrounding this issue.

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April 11, 2018, 01:04:58 AM
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Can you please provide any examples of this happening in the past? I am curious about this, because if this is the case then it would seem to a hazard to use public/shared VPN(s), TOR nodes or anything like that. I don't believe that they simply would ban an account because it shares an IP with an offender. Otherwise, paying a fee for an "evil" IP would probably not be implemented, either.

I want to read up on some more official statements surrounding this issue.

You won't be automatically banned if someone on the same IP is banned. IP addresses are pretty poor identifiers. In certain countries it is very common for different people in the same general region to share IPs a lot, and even two veteran forum users in the same US state are quite likely to share an IP address somewhere in their IP history.

But if you evade a ban, your alts will eventually be found through manual investigation.

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April 11, 2018, 12:41:09 PM
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You won't be automatically banned if someone on the same IP is banned. IP addresses are pretty poor identifiers. In certain countries it is very common for different people in the same general region to share IPs a lot, and even two veteran forum users in the same US state are quite likely to share an IP address somewhere in their IP history.

But if you evade a ban, your alts will eventually be found through manual investigation.

That's very reasonable. That's basically what I had assumed. You are no fool, theymos, and I was pretty sure I would have no problem with how you view these situations. I remember I played an MMORPG about 10-years ago and they wanted to ban a single hacker from Brazil, but what ended up happening is an accidental ban of multiple others. This was due to the situation you describe, and so I'm happy that you acknowledge how poor of an identifier IP addresses are.

The italics around "automatically" do tell me that accounts sharing the same IP will be under sure scrutiny, unless I've read the implications incorrectly. It might be redundant to even say that, but thanks for the clarification - straight from the horse's mouth.

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April 11, 2018, 03:25:21 PM
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No. It's allowed and you won't get banned. If one of the accounts get banned for what ever reason though expect the other one too as well.
Bounty activities is not one of the reasons that gets accounts banned right?
Participating in bounties with two accounts isn't going to get you banned off the forum. Although, you would need to look into the bounties terms and conditions as they may not want people from the same IP/household participating. If you are found to be abusing bounties with multiple accounts you may receive a negative rating from users of the forum.

That's very reasonable. That's basically what I had assumed. You are no fool, theymos, and I was pretty sure I would have no problem with how you view these situations. I remember I played an MMORPG about 10-years ago and they wanted to ban a single hacker from Brazil, but what ended up happening is an accidental ban of multiple others. This was due to the situation you describe, and so I'm happy that you acknowledge how poor of an identifier IP addresses are.

The italics around "automatically" do tell me that accounts sharing the same IP will be under sure scrutiny, unless I've read the implications incorrectly. It might be redundant to even say that, but thanks for the clarification - straight from the horse's mouth.
I think it's fair to assume that when an account is banned others which share a common IP will be looked at. Although, there's ways of telling whether someone is an alt account of another through various different methods. If the staff have only a common IP associated with each account then the other one will not be banned just because of that.  Looking at my first reply it probably needed to be explained a little more.  

I was initially referring to alt accounts because of the way the OP is phrased and the problem with using two accounts and one of them getting banned and you continue to use the other which the other account would then be banned for ban evasion.


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April 12, 2018, 05:17:32 AM
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Can you please provide any examples of this happening in the past? I am curious about this, because if this is the case then it would seem to a hazard to use public/shared VPN(s), TOR nodes or anything like that. I don't believe that they simply would ban an account because it shares an IP with an offender. Otherwise, paying a fee for an "evil" IP would probably not be implemented, either.

I want to read up on some more official statements surrounding this issue.

You won't be automatically banned if someone on the same IP is banned. IP addresses are pretty poor identifiers. In certain countries it is very common for different people in the same general region to share IPs a lot, and even two veteran forum users in the same US state are quite likely to share an IP address somewhere in their IP history.

But if you evade a ban, your alts will eventually be found through manual investigation.

Well sir, can you check my account? what is the cause of the ban of my account? I remembered using VPN just once, then my account was banned the other day. I just used that vpn not knowing that it will affect my account can you please review it, and tell me the reason why is it banned and how can I recover it? thank you so much, sir! Good day! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1178208;sa=summary
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