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November 10, 2013, 08:32:42 AM
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That is the question. I'm thinking about purchase a UPS to protect my babies this winter against power surges/spikes, drops, and small outages.

IMC the factors are:

- In the place where I live there is a hard winter, with electrical storms.
- People are turning their AC's and electrical heaters.
- Doing a small test last year reported AC fluctuations between 210-235V.

In combination this causes often the lights flick or have small outages (30secs as much).

Taking in consideration that, I'm concerned about my HW to suffer any damage or just shorten its life.

I would like to know is you are using one, or consider it would be recommended. In that case which model with a good quality/price?

Any opinion will be welcome.
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November 10, 2013, 02:48:39 PM
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If you have problems with power supply you should buy UPS.
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November 10, 2013, 03:30:25 PM
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Get a UPS.

There are two types though....

Some have full time AC filtering -- which will protect against spiking -- some simply have battery generated "AC" power -- more like a square wave than a sine wave.

For example the APC ES Series ES 350 ES500 etc. did not have the AC five pole Filter

The APC smart series does have that filter -- etc.

Whatever you get look for the AC filtering and protection.

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November 10, 2013, 05:30:25 PM
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I run absolutely everything through UPS's - I have to. My electricity supply is dicky at the best of times cos I live in a remote location in the back of beyond. Power surges & brown outs are common where I am, so they're a must.

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November 10, 2013, 07:48:56 PM
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There's some terminology to learn, ie know the difference between "line-interactive" and "online". (see http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply)

IMHO "online" is the only way to properly protect equipment, because "line-interactive" has a reaction time before it deals with surges.

I've gone for a good quality online UPS with the minimum amount of battery backup time: my UPS can go for only 6 minutes under the maximum power draw. I figure I don't need the capacity (and expense) of longer battery life, I'm mostly concerned with protecting my gear. 

Note: my UPS is currently still in the box, because my quiet rack cabinet hasn't arrived yet.

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November 11, 2013, 08:47:53 AM
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My miners run off an old Compaq 1000VA unit (got it as a refurbished unit).  My other IT equipment (router, NAS, switch) run off a small, cheap CyberPower UPS (replaces a small, cheap Liebert that leaked it's magic smoke).
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November 11, 2013, 12:51:21 PM
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Are you using any Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) to protectect your HW?

No because I don't have problem with electricity and last winter I had a lot of GPU rigs and who knows how much it would cost to buy good UPS for all of them.

How much wattage you have to cover?
And as davewr2013 said if you decide to buy go for quality protection.
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November 12, 2013, 02:36:12 PM
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Get a UPS.
There are two types though....
Some have full time AC filtering -- which will protect against spiking -- some simply have battery generated "AC" power -- more like a square wave than a sine wave.
For example the APC ES Series ES 350 ES500 etc. did not have the AC five pole Filter
The APC smart series does have that filter -- etc.
Whatever you get look for the AC filtering and protection.


There's some terminology to learn, ie know the difference between "line-interactive" and "online". (see http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply)

IMHO "online" is the only way to properly protect equipment, because "line-interactive" has a reaction time before it deals with surges.

This is the kind of knowledge to approach the dependant on the Electronic/Computer shop.

I´ll keep this thread updated with my picks on UPS features and models.

Thanks!
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November 12, 2013, 02:57:18 PM
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Get a UPS.
There are two types though....
Some have full time AC filtering -- which will protect against spiking -- some simply have battery generated "AC" power -- more like a square wave than a sine wave.
For example the APC ES Series ES 350 ES500 etc. did not have the AC five pole Filter
The APC smart series does have that filter -- etc.
Whatever you get look for the AC filtering and protection.


There's some terminology to learn, ie know the difference between "line-interactive" and "online". (see http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply)

IMHO "online" is the only way to properly protect equipment, because "line-interactive" has a reaction time before it deals with surges.

This is the kind of knowledge to approach the dependant on the Electronic/Computer shop.

I´ll keep this thread updated with my picks on UPS features and models.

Thanks!
Personally I am a fan of the 159.99 900w Cyberpower on amazon... but only powers a jupiter for 6min.
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November 12, 2013, 03:26:08 PM
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For a cheap UPS the CyberPower units are fine.  Fancy LCD display, and seem pretty reliable.
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November 13, 2013, 12:50:38 PM
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I've used a multitude of the CyberPower and APC units. Both have seen the same issues with AC flux, surges, brownouts, etc, and both have supported equal loads. There isn't an immediate difference between them for most folks. Businesses will often prefer APC for its commercial warranty, and it's one of the older brands so folks are more familiar.

Personally, I buy the CypberPower 1500 unit (~150USD on amazon) whenever I can, sometimes it drops to $120USD on Amazon. I use them on everything I own which I consider valuable.

Run time isn't as important to me as the protection, but it is nice to have.

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November 13, 2013, 03:31:53 PM
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Can anyone suggest some of the best UPSs. Each of my rigs will consume 1300 watts, so I figure I will need to get a UPS for each. I'm not rich, but I'm willing to spend what it takes to get the best. Thanks.
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November 13, 2013, 03:49:36 PM
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Can anyone suggest some of the best UPSs. Each of my rigs will consume 1300 watts, so I figure I will need to get a UPS for each. I'm not rich, but I'm willing to spend what it takes to get the best. Thanks.


"Best" is subjective. Best bang for your buck is the CyberPower unit on Amazon. If you want to pay almost twice as much for a different brand, APC.

Don't expect them to remain on battery for more than a minute though if you're looking for off-mains power.

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November 13, 2013, 03:50:34 PM
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Can anyone suggest some of the best UPSs. Each of my rigs will consume 1300 watts, so I figure I will need to get a UPS for each. I'm not rich, but I'm willing to spend what it takes to get the best. Thanks.


The "best" UPS? Wish I knew...

http://www.upsforless.ca/

Just dig around and look for capacity and prices.

Unless you want to give a full specification of what you want nobody technical with any sense would give much more than an off the cuff recommendation.

Edit: Double the power drawn to get any staying power -- but that sure move up the price point.... which is why I gave the link I gave.

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November 13, 2013, 05:45:43 PM
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Indeed CyberPower is a good one in relation to Price/Features.

I was looking also to a Spanish brand "Salicru" (I'm from Spain) and they look really nice:
http://catalogo.salicru.com/en-domestic/ups/sps-soho

The point is not to have the "BEST" but to have a reliable protection for the investment on mining hardware.

So far I think that the most interesting feature about protection should be the elapsed time to react, below 10ms, and the power variance allowed, below +-10%.

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