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November 10, 2013, 05:35:16 PM
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Looks like the company http://www.incapsula.com is not confident enough to stop/mitigate DDOS attack?

How can company like that says they do DDOS PROTECTION and NOT ABLE TO PROTECT A SITE from DDOS?


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November 10, 2013, 05:50:23 PM
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Incapsula is the leading DDOS protection company in the world, but nothing really can stop DDOS.
Anyhow site seems to be working for me.

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November 10, 2013, 09:39:41 PM
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Incapsula is the leading DDOS protection company in the world, but nothing really can stop DDOS.
Anyhow site seems to be working for me.
Sure you can stop the attack.  You add enough capacity with withstand any of them.  That's how you handle them.  No magic software or hardware that can do a perfect job filtering syn floods and spoofed IPs/routes.  But people try their best.  I have lots of experience dealing with extremely high flood attacks.  What burns me the most is that tracing the source of the attacks is very tricky.  That leaves my lawyer out of a job because there's no one to sue!
DDOS attack > any capacity that you can provide.

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November 10, 2013, 10:29:21 PM
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ddos protection outfits are largely scams with exception of cloudflare for business. Once you get slammed  on a regular basis by ddos attacks it's likely the provider will just dump you as too risky a customer. It's too easy to rent botnets or rent ddos services now, pop on any crime forum and there are hundreds of listings for cheap attacks you can snowball into one huge attack no anti-ddos service can survive.
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November 10, 2013, 10:29:35 PM
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Looks like the company http://www.incapsula.com is not confident enough to stop/mitigate DDOS attack?

How can company like that says they do DDOS PROTECTION and NOT ABLE TO PROTECT A SITE from DDOS?



Currently it's working up and fast for me.
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November 10, 2013, 10:34:00 PM
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ddos protection outfits are largely scams with exception of cloudflare for business. Once you get slammed  on a regular basis by ddos attacks it's likely the provider will just dump you as too risky a customer. It's too easy to rent botnets or rent ddos services now, pop on any crime forum and there are hundreds of listings for cheap attacks you can snowball into one huge attack no anti-ddos service can survive.
incapsula is the leading exception in 2013.

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ddos protection outfits are largely scams with exception of cloudflare for business. Once you get slammed  on a regular basis by ddos attacks it's likely the provider will just dump you as too risky a customer. It's too easy to rent botnets or rent ddos services now, pop on any crime forum and there are hundreds of listings for cheap attacks you can snowball into one huge attack no anti-ddos service can survive.
incapsula is the leading exception in 2013.

They are only charging $299/month, so no way they can resist huge attacks. Real DDOS protection is thousands per month I bet incapsula dumps any exchanges because of constant attacks. Solution is decentralized exchanging somehow, big freenet exchange that has multiple escrow options with web of trust or stick to IRC trading.
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November 10, 2013, 10:44:34 PM
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Looks like the company http://www.incapsula.com is not confident enough to stop/mitigate DDOS attack?

How can company like that says they do DDOS PROTECTION and NOT ABLE TO PROTECT A SITE from DDOS?



Currently it's working up and fast for me.




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You've requested a page that currently is on the Incapsula network.
Incapsula was unable to connect to the server.
Suggestions :

    If you are a website visitor, try to refresh your browser and connect again.
    If you are the website owner, please ensure that your server is up and running and that access to it from the Incapsula network has not been blocked in any way. see here


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November 10, 2013, 10:47:30 PM
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They are only charging $299/month, so no way they can resist huge attacks. Real DDOS protection is thousands per month I bet incapsula dumps any exchanges because of constant attacks. Solution is decentralized exchanging somehow, big freenet exchange that has multiple escrow options with web of trust or stick to IRC trading.
Enterprise level protection costs much more than that.

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Just tested, works fine for me?

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November 10, 2013, 11:28:46 PM
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http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://btcchina.com/

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It's not just you! http://btcchina.com looks down from here.

Check another site?

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November 10, 2013, 11:29:19 PM
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Now it's down for me too.

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November 10, 2013, 11:33:36 PM
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if they are down now - they will come up again.

Meanwhile the trading goes on here:
https://www.rmbtb.com/
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November 10, 2013, 11:50:22 PM
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Bitcoin charts is showing that trading is still going on
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/btcnCNY#rg2ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zi1gVol

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November 11, 2013, 02:16:20 PM
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Bitcoin charts is showing that trading is still going on
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/btcnCNY#rg2ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zi1gVol
Either they weren't down for everyone or this isn't correct.

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November 11, 2013, 06:00:50 PM
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Bitcoin charts is showing that trading is still going on
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/btcnCNY#rg2ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zi1gVol
Either they weren't down for everyone or this isn't correct.

It was down for me, here's the chart;



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November 11, 2013, 08:33:53 PM
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How can trading continue if they were down?

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November 11, 2013, 08:39:30 PM
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How can trading continue if they were down?

It would be relatively straightforward to tunnel traffic (especially api calls) to route around (or through) run-of-the-mill DDOS.  Were I setting up an exchange, I would probably make it a feature for highly valued customers, charting websites, etc.


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