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July 30, 2011, 05:00:35 PM
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There is a post floating around suggesting to newbies to use an online wallet service. I completely am against any online wallet services as of now. I suggest to use either the LinuxCoin A lightweight Debian based OS with everything ready to go. or HOWTO: create a 100% secure wallet to keep your investment/BTC safe from getting stolen or lost.

Examples in why we should not use online wallet services.

MyBitcoin.com, where did it go?

MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me

Mybitcoin is a scam!

mybitcoin down or just me?

MyBitcoin.com - hosting provider: leaseweb.com

Lucky for me, I just pulled out of mybitcoin a few days ago with a few BTC using HOWTO: create a 100% secure wallet to keep my wallet safe.
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July 30, 2011, 07:38:51 PM
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Check out http://www.bitprotection.info  also Smiley

edit: if you are going to accuse us of being scammers please provide evidence -   we provide a service for a real problem and that is people erasing/lost wallets which happens a lot more then you know!

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July 30, 2011, 08:19:32 PM
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No offense. I don't think so, my opinion that is.
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July 30, 2011, 08:25:17 PM
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The other option is that we provide 100% secure off-line vault for your wallet. All you need to do is send us a copy of your wallet.dat on a USB stick into the mail and we will lock it into our secure vault.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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July 30, 2011, 08:36:08 PM
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Suggesting to newbies not to use online wallets will stop a lot of potential users getting onto the bitcoin train.

I agree that, at the moment, online wallet services are semi-professional beta-services at best and you should definitely not trust large amounts of bitcoins to them.

But no matter what you may think, online wallets will be the primary means of using bitcoins in the future. Just as webmail services are the primary means of using email.

Therefore, i'd rather encourage people to use one or even several of the more trusted online wallets. That will only help them to get better.

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July 30, 2011, 08:55:56 PM
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Why should anyone trust your site?
- Who are you? You have no name, phone number or contact address on your site
- your "Contact Us" form redirects to some third party site
- your official email address for the site is a @Gmail.com address

Reading your older postings in this forum, that you made with varying nicknames (Haydenwaves/bitprotection), i can only label you as scammer or troll.

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=19506.0
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July 30, 2011, 08:59:47 PM
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How can one recommend a service which he is not already using for some time?

If we recomend new users online wallet services, they will use it (and potentially lose money) no matter what.
If we recomend them regular clients, they will use the client (and potentially lose money) no matter what.

Later when they can decide what services they can trust, they can switch to online wallets...


bitprotection.info?
I would not trust with even a satoshi to service like this Cheesy
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July 30, 2011, 09:12:47 PM
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No offense. I don't think so, my opinion that is.

No offense taken! Smiley

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July 30, 2011, 09:13:11 PM
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The other option is that we provide 100% secure off-line vault for your wallet. All you need to do is send us a copy of your wallet.dat on a USB stick into the mail and we will lock it into our secure vault.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Glad to you think its funny!  ?? 

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July 30, 2011, 09:14:46 PM
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Why should anyone trust your site?
- Who are you? You have no name, phone number or contact address on your site
- your "Contact Us" form redirects to some third party site
- your official email address for the site is a @Gmail.com address

Reading your older postings in this forum, that you made with varying nicknames (Haydenwaves/bitprotection), i can only label you as scammer or troll.

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=19506.0

 "Who are you? You have no name, phone number or contact address on your site"  Ok  will do and this will change your mind how ?

 "your "Contact Us" form redirects to some third party site"  Ok? we use jotform ? and your point ?

 "your official email address for the site is a @Gmail.com address " Ok ? we'll make a info@bitprotection.info ?

anything else?


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July 30, 2011, 09:17:12 PM
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The other option is that we provide 100% secure off-line vault for your wallet. All you need to do is send us a copy of your wallet.dat on a USB stick into the mail and we will lock it into our secure vault.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Glad to you think its funny!  ?? 

Actually it's a scam.

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July 30, 2011, 09:17:54 PM
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Online wallets. Lol.
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July 30, 2011, 09:18:06 PM
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The other option is that we provide 100% secure off-line vault for your wallet. All you need to do is send us a copy of your wallet.dat on a USB stick into the mail and we will lock it into our secure vault.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Glad to you think its funny!  ??  

Actually it's a scam.

Provide evidence please of this "scam" ....I didn't think so..

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July 30, 2011, 09:39:47 PM
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Online wallets. Lol.

I don't get it. Care to explain?

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July 30, 2011, 09:48:14 PM
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anything else?
- stop spamming
- *.info domains are usually used for malware, trojans, spam and scam
- i hope you are a troll  Grin
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July 30, 2011, 10:11:03 PM
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-Suggesting isn't spamming
-plenty of .info sites around here so there all scams? please provide evidence we've scammed anyone?

And I hope you aren't as stupid as you sound Smiley


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July 30, 2011, 11:45:15 PM
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Online wallets. Lol.
Online wallets are most likely the best way to get Bitcoins widely accepted!

However, the operator/s of an online wallet service must be trustworthy. Such a service must be transparent, it should have a real address with an office and it shouldn't be run from the basement of some anonymous guy's(who spams the forum with a link to his site in nearly every post he makes) house with a Gmail account as only contact option.

"Send me your wallet.dat to iwillkeepyourcoinzsave@yahoo.com . I won't steal it, i promise!" ....sounds very trustworthy.

Sry OP, maybe you have good intentions...but your site and comments don't look like it.
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July 30, 2011, 11:57:27 PM
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Online wallets. Lol.
Online wallets are most likely the best way to get Bitcoins widely accepted!

However, the operator/s of an online wallet service must be trustworthy. Such a service must be transparent, it should have a real address with an office and it shouldn't be run from the basement of some anonymous guy(who spams the forum with a link to his site in nearly every post he makes) house with a Gmail account as only contact option.

"Send me your wallet.dat to iwillkeepyourcoinzsave@yahoo.com . I won't steal it, i promise!" ....sounds very trustworthy.

Sry OP, maybe you have good intentions...but your site and comments don't look like it.

If you actually look at my other posts in this forum you'll notice me participating. Also, you clearly don't understand the service we can't do anything with your wallet as then people would just produce a claim around it - it isn't just give "me " your wallet. Clearly, there has to be some trust I know that but to accuse some if scam with no evidence shows you aren't to credible with anything your saying. Sorry to say it .

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July 31, 2011, 12:00:09 AM
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Online wallets. Lol.
Online wallets are most likely the best way to get Bitcoins widely accepted!

I don't buy this one bit. IMHO it is foolish and dangerous to make such an assertion.

If one is not smart enough to have their wallet securely on two usb sticks (one is backup) one should *run* away from bitcoin.

Linuxcoin works and works very well. If you really do not have the time or expertise to set one up PM me and I will either walk you through it or sell you one already set up (minus the actual wallet file which will be generated the first time you use it, or if you like with an existing wallet with mature coins that you can use right away with no fees, HINT use the first option).

I fully agree with "Online wallets. Lol." Only I would add "!!!"

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July 31, 2011, 01:04:47 AM
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Online wallet is a joke....lol just make a whole bunch of trahill, mtgox accounts....lol
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