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November 10, 2013, 11:42:55 PM
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http://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

check it out. almost 300% inflation since 1980.
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November 11, 2013, 05:03:51 AM
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FED still think inflation rate is far below 2% every month , so print more & more bucks !
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November 11, 2013, 05:22:29 AM
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http://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

check it out. almost 300% inflation since 1980.

The Bureau of Lies and Stories actually has it as 184% inflation.

The real CPI inflation rate over this time is more like 1,000%.

http://www.shadowstats.com/inflation_calculator?amount1=100&y1=1980&m1=9&y2=2013&m2=9&calc=Find+Out

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November 11, 2013, 09:05:56 PM
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so inflation rate is low in spite of the fed printing out unprecedented money.. isn't this going to speed up the chance of a collapse? it's like building up quietly for one massive explosion.
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November 11, 2013, 11:13:05 PM
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so inflation rate is low in spite of the fed printing out unprecedented money.. isn't this going to speed up the chance of a collapse? it's like building up quietly for one massive explosion.

The inflation rate has been mental since 1971 when gold convertibility stopped. This event took the leash off fractional reserve banking and exploded the (credit) money supply until it hit systemic limits of serviceability around 2007/8. Since then Fed printed money has not been huge in retail price inflation because new loans (mostly student debt servitude, and car loans, plus the printed money) have just been enough to maintain the state of peak debt. Also velocity of money has dropped because households/consumers want to pay down debt.

So the money explosion has happened over the last 40 years. Serious deflation should occur, but central banks are preventing this natural outcome. Also, false accounting has pushed bad debt off balance sheets making the media positive, like CNBC muppets delirious about low P/Es and GDP "growth".

A collapse will be:
a) deflationary, triggered by either interest rates increasing massively and bankruptcies in every sector - including government defaults on welfare payments.
b) hyper-inflationary, when public loses confidence in money and velocity screams up as everyone gets out of cash.

IMHO the 2nd outcome is most likely as CBs can print billions at the press of a button. So much easier to do that than allow the economy to go through a purgative decade with negative poll ratings throughout whole electoral cycles.




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November 13, 2013, 06:37:53 PM
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http://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

check it out. almost 300% inflation since 1980.

The Bureau of Lies and Stories actually has it as 184% inflation.

The real CPI inflation rate over this time is more like 1,000%.

http://www.shadowstats.com/inflation_calculator?amount1=100&y1=1980&m1=9&y2=2013&m2=9&calc=Find+Out



I'll just leave this here, for reference, expect a CPI calculation change in the future.


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November 13, 2013, 06:39:04 PM
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so inflation rate is low in spite of the fed printing out unprecedented money.. isn't this going to speed up the chance of a collapse? it's like building up quietly for one massive explosion.
It isn't low at all, further, it takes time for the market to "factor in" new money.

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November 13, 2013, 07:05:40 PM
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so inflation rate is low in spite of the fed printing out unprecedented money.. isn't this going to speed up the chance of a collapse? it's like building up quietly for one massive explosion.

TL;DR, the inflation has already happened "it takes time for the market to "factor in" new money", QE is filling in the void, only if we get asset price deflation, with QE - do we get hyper inflation.

Think of it like this: when the bank loans money to someone to buy a house the bank creates the money through Fractional Reserve Banking (RFB), (adds numbers to a spreadsheet according to a formula) the reserve part is traditionally 1 and the numbers in the spreadsheet is x 10.

The reserve part, for arguments sake, can come from the FED at their lending rate if the bank doesn't have the deposits on hand.

If everyone gets a loan there is lots of FRB Dollars available to buy houses, the law of supply and demand dictates the price should increase to stabilise demand. So housing prises increase - this makes the CPI look bad so they don't factor it in there.

The rising housing price needs 2 incomes, and the amount that can be borrowed increases  and the cost increases to stabilise demand.

Then the Banks start selling Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS), and they call it an asset, and use it to substitute for the reserve needed to make the FRB loan.

Then a small hiccup happens and the housing price stabilises, and all of a sudden the house of cards could collapse.

So the FED decided to purchase all the MBS so the banks will have a Dollar Reserve as opposed to a  Debt, they call it QE.  we carry on as usual.

Innovation and progress hide the true cost of inflation, our economy is designed to produce More of the same, -as opposed to - Better satisfy need.   So the true economic collapse will be environmental in nature. A free market empowered with something like Bitcoin gets entrepreneurs thinking how to satisfy need better and can avert total collapse.

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