Please remove Chaang Noi (Goat) or BadBear from default trust list

I notice to today I have a message next to my name: "Warning: Trade with extreme caution!"

As it appears Goat is now on the default trust list, despite that fact that he completely abuses the "trust" feedback, leaving negative feedback for just about anything he doesn't like (basically using "negative trust" as a "dislike")

Examples of negative trust he has left for me (keep in mind that I have never had or attempted to have any business/trading deals with Goat):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=73389

Claim 1: With this claim he also claims that he "risked 1BTC" with me:

Lied about Bitcoin being illegal in Thailand. Claimed to be a media source. do not trust this guy with anything he says, never trust him with BTC

Claim 2: He makes another distrust rate about the same issue:

His wife runs the now closed and suspected scam site bitcoin.th.co

PM me for info if you need to file a claim with the Royal Thai Police.

A) The site is bitcoin.co.th

B) It's not a scam site, and the business is still in operation, business is still in good standing

The fact that one individual on the forum can dislike a topic, and then make it so that every single bitcointalk users seeing by default that "Warning: Trade with extreme caution!" is crazy. If you look through Goat's negative trust feedbacks for other users you can clearly see he as a recent history of abusing the feedback system.

I don't mind if anyone leaves me totally unfounded bullshit feedback, but when that is instantly visible in red next to any thing I post that crosses the line.

Goat isn't on the default list. Badbear is on the default trust list, and Badbear trusts Goat. So goat is a layer deeper.

If you wanted him off of it, you would have to talk to Badbear about it, and convince him to remove him.

Isn't the default trust list depth set to 2 by default?

Which means Goat is on the default trust list by default.

Or if the default depth is only set to 1 then it really doesn't matter, so only users changing their depth settings would see Goat's feedback; and I live with that.

Quote from: dave111223 on November 11, 2013, 06:15:37 AM

Yeah the default is two I think, but still same outcome, you need to talk to Badbear. Hes the only one who has any say in the matter.

*edit* hold on a second, I think I'm reading something wrong, tis late, lemme relook at the default trust.

Ok, message sent to Badbear.

Yeah I'm pretty tired, and am unable of processing how Goat is on the Default trust list. He doesn't seem to be on Theymos' default trust list, and it looks like Goat added trust to Badbear, not the other way around.

Then again, I could just be reading the list wrong, I'll designate someone else to answer this question for you, maybe Mr.Goat himself

My best guess is he is on the Third level in depth. CanaryintheMine who is on the default trust list trusted Maidak who trusted Goat.

Quote from: SaltySpitoon on November 11, 2013, 06:10:17 AM

Goat isn't on the default list. Badbear is on the default trust list, and Badbear trusts Goat. So goat is a layer deeper.

This ^
He is under Badbear's trust list.

Quote from: WEB slicer on November 11, 2013, 09:38:33 PM

goat is a bitch

I think the term you are looking for is 'doe' or 'nannie'.

- edit: make that 'nanny'.

What's the purpose of default trust?

Quote from: User705 on November 13, 2013, 02:35:49 AM

What's the purpose of default trust?

Supposedly so that feedback left by respected community members can be seen by all.

Somehow Goat has managed to wheedle or pay his way into that group, and so any of his bullshit feedback is seen by all.

There appears to be two ways to get labelled as a scammer on the forum:

Method 1)
- A member lays out an accusation with full story and facts to support their claim
- The accused can posts rebuttal and other members can ask questions
- Mods weigh the case and assign a scammer tag if they feel the evidence is compelling

Method 2)
- Goat doesn't like something you say

Quote from: Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย on November 13, 2013, 03:36:31 AM

I will adjust my feedback once you respond. If you ever find my feed back is not correct please explain why. I am more than happy to correct any mistakes I make.

you left me bad trust saying you think im a scammer cause i dont accept escrow when in fact i have escrow with john is cool in my ad. truth is you left me that trust cause i deleted your post asking me to ship first for you. you troll around this forum harassing people like your the secret police of bitcointalk. you attack my integrity cause you have more posts than me and "VIP" under your name. your a dipshit goat and i love it when i see other people call you out for being a jerk.

you already started a thread about me in scam accusation. we went back and forth and there was no compromise. why the fuck should i create another thread about this? right here is the perfect place to bring this up cause there is another person who started this thread saying you leave unfair trust.

you called me a scammer so i called you a scammer. you left me bad trust so i left you bad trust. you know whats up dont act like your innocent. you started this BS. you posted about me in scam accusation and left me bad trust warning others you think im a scammer without me saying a single word to you. all i did was delete your post. i let a few weeks go by and PM'd you trying to make peace and offer to mutually remove the BS from each others profile. you are too proud to go back on it and admit you have no good reason to call me a scammer.

If you see a person abusing their default trust rating you should welcome it instead of fighting it. The more people see the red and then investigate and realize it's BS the less meaningful it becomes thereby solving the problem all on it's own. Before I used to see it and think oh wow red better be careful but as I go along and investigate I realize it's mostly childish or politic BS so think of it as noob repellant. Noobs stay away from you and those who understand what it really is don't care that it's there. Look I'm red too and loving it. Cool

fuck that this guy is throwing his post count and "VERY IMPORTANT PERSON" status around with the intent to ruin others reputation. he is a self righteous bully he deserves to be called out and belittled the same way he treats others.

Quote from: dave111223 on November 11, 2013, 06:26:22 AM

Ok, message sent to Badbear.

Badbear don't care.

john doesnt care either. since he is the "global troll buster" i PM'd him about goat starting a scam accusation thread about me but i guess they dont care enough to put goat in his place and scold him for spreading his BS around the forum.

i PM'd him 3 weeks ago when you started the scam accusation thread.

Quote from: Xian01 on November 13, 2013, 04:33:31 AM

Quote from: dave111223 on November 11, 2013, 06:26:22 AM

Ok, message sent to Badbear.

Badbear don't care.

I do care, problem is OP has already spread misinformation and lies about me as well, so I have no reason to believe him and intervene as he has requested. Also consider that goat isn't the only one to leave him feedback for that so I have a hard time believing it's personal as he claims.

John K isn't related in any way. Badbear is the only one responsible for Goat being a part of the trust list. And that is until someone else on the default trust lists trusts him as well. There aren't secret meetings where we all get together and gossip and decide who to add to the list. If someone does a deal with someone on the default trust list, and they leave positive feedback, they are now on the list.

Actually a slight surprise, as Badbear and Goat don't get along very well. The fact that Badbear trusts Goat just means that he seriously would trust goat finanically.