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November 11, 2013, 06:07:07 AM
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2013 - 1 Troy Ounce .999 Fine Silver Chinese Panda
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Chinese Pandas are one of the world’s only bullion coins to change designs each year!  The 2013 issue features three pandas drinking from a stream.  Silver Pandas come in the original capsule as issued from the Chinese mint.

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Do you accept escrow?
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November 11, 2013, 06:19:21 AM
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Would you mind taking photos of all of the things you are selling with a timestamp in the form of a piece of paper with your forum name on it? Just found it odd that all of the photos of coins you are selling have different back grounds, and I'm sure other people are thinking about that too. I'm assuming you are just using stock photos, but you would probably have better luck with individual photos.

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November 11, 2013, 06:27:09 AM
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Would you mind taking photos of all of the things you are selling with a timestamp in the form of a piece of paper with your forum name on it? Just found it odd that all of the photos of coins you are selling have different back grounds, and I'm sure other people are thinking about that too. I'm assuming you are just using stock photos, but you would probably have better luck with individual photos.
Everyone has their own opinion I suppose, I didnt just take these photos, each posting for the different items I am selling were taken right after I received them. So, Im not taking the pictures now, Im just pulling up my photos I had of them already, Thanks ~ ( the second photo is stock yes )
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November 11, 2013, 07:00:53 AM
Last edit: November 11, 2013, 07:17:10 AM by SaltySpitoon
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Quite frankly, I have reason to believe you are a scammer. If I'm off, I'll give you a sincere apology.

The first thing that got my attention, was, "Coins will not be sent out without upfront payment." not willing to use escrow etc. Of course, that isn't definative by itself, however I then noticed none of the items had the same background. One image would be on red carpet, then gray, then gray of another pattern. So I inspected the image source, and the images are coming from ebayimg. So I then checked Ebay, and found the items that he was selling.

The first link from Florida, second from Australia, third from China, fourth from California,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330635.0  and http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-10-Yuan-1-Troy-Ounce-999-Fine-Silver-Chinese-Panda-Bullion-30-Coin-Lot-/370914000040?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item565c327ca8

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330651.0  and http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-20-gram-0-640oz-Perth-Mint-99-99-Gold-Bullion-Bar-/370938090892?pt=AU_Bullion&hash=item565da2158c

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330647.0  and http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-1-kilo-S300Y-china-silver-panda-coin-with-COA-and-original-box-/251360476678?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3a86407e06

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330641.0  and http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEST-OFFER-1oz-GOLD-INGOT-SKULL-CROSSBONES-GOLD-BAR-OLD-POUR-GOLD-SKULL-BAR-/321239732828?pt=US_Bullion_Bars_Rounds&hash=item4acb61525c

and I'd be willing to bet I could find every other item as well, so for this moment, I'm leaving a note on your trust due to my own opinion and personal suspicion, and I'll be completely sure to make it clear that I'm by no means certain about my rating, however at this point I feel more likely than not that you actually do not have the items. Like I said, I'd be happy to removed the rating as soon as I have that moment that says, oops I made a mistake, and I'll give you an apology, however for the time being, I feel pretty strongly that I have an obligation to at least present the evidence and allow people to come to a conclusion for themselves.

Sorry if I upset you, but this is Bitcoin land where scams are just as common as legitimate transactions.

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November 11, 2013, 07:22:07 AM
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Quite frankly, I have reason to believe you are a scammer. If I'm off, I'll give you a sincere apology.

The first thing that got my attention, was, "Coins will not be sent out without upfront payment." not willing to use escrow etc. Of course, that isn't definative by itself, however I then noticed none of the items had the same background. One image would be on red carpet, then gray, then gray of another pattern. So I inspected the image source, and the images are coming from ebayimg. So I then checked Ebay, and found the items that he was selling.

The first link from Florida, second from Australia, third from China, fourth from California,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330635.0  and http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-10-Yuan-1-Troy-Ounce-999-Fine-Silver-Chinese-Panda-Bullion-30-Coin-Lot-/370914000040?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item565c327ca8

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330651.0  and http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-20-gram-0-640oz-Perth-Mint-99-99-Gold-Bullion-Bar-/370938090892?pt=AU_Bullion&hash=item565da2158c

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330647.0  and http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-1-kilo-S300Y-china-silver-panda-coin-with-COA-and-original-box-/251360476678?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3a86407e06

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330641.0  and http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEST-OFFER-1oz-GOLD-INGOT-SKULL-CROSSBONES-GOLD-BAR-OLD-POUR-GOLD-SKULL-BAR-/321239732828?pt=US_Bullion_Bars_Rounds&hash=item4acb61525c

and I'd be willing to bet I could find every other item as well, so for this moment, I'm leaving a note on your trust due to my own opinion and personal suspicion, and I'll be completely sure to make it clear that I'm by no means certain about my rating, however at this point I feel more likely than not that you actually do not have the items. Like I said, I'd be happy to removed the rating as soon as I have that moment that says, oops I made a mistake, and I'll give you an apology, however for the time being, I feel pretty strongly that I have an obligation to at least present the evidence and allow people to come to a conclusion for themselves.

Sorry if I upset you, but this is Bitcoin land where scams are just as common as legitimate transactions.

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November 11, 2013, 07:23:10 AM
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Quite frankly, I have reason to believe you are a scammer. If I'm off, I'll give you a sincere apology.

The first thing that got my attention, was, "Coins will not be sent out without upfront payment." not willing to use escrow etc. Of course, that isn't definative by itself, however I then noticed none of the items had the same background. One image would be on red carpet, then gray, then gray of another pattern. So I inspected the image source, and the images are coming from ebayimg. So I then checked Ebay, and found the items that he was selling.

The first link from Florida, second from Australia, third from China, fourth from California,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330635.0  and http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-10-Yuan-1-Troy-Ounce-999-Fine-Silver-Chinese-Panda-Bullion-30-Coin-Lot-/370914000040?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item565c327ca8

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330651.0  and http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-20-gram-0-640oz-Perth-Mint-99-99-Gold-Bullion-Bar-/370938090892?pt=AU_Bullion&hash=item565da2158c

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330647.0  and http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-1-kilo-S300Y-china-silver-panda-coin-with-COA-and-original-box-/251360476678?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3a86407e06

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330641.0  and http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEST-OFFER-1oz-GOLD-INGOT-SKULL-CROSSBONES-GOLD-BAR-OLD-POUR-GOLD-SKULL-BAR-/321239732828?pt=US_Bullion_Bars_Rounds&hash=item4acb61525c

and I'd be willing to bet I could find every other item as well, so for this moment, I'm leaving a note on your trust due to my own opinion and personal suspicion, and I'll be completely sure to make it clear that I'm by no means certain about my rating, however at this point I feel more likely than not that you actually do not have the items. Like I said, I'd be happy to removed the rating as soon as I have that moment that says, oops I made a mistake, and I'll give you an apology, however for the time being, I feel pretty strongly that I have an obligation to at least present the evidence and allow people to come to a conclusion for themselves.

Sorry if I upset you, but this is Bitcoin land where scams are just as common as legitimate transactions.

I think that's quite obvious enough. Thanks for the heads up
 Maybe you should post this in th scam section. This guy should get his tags.

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November 11, 2013, 07:28:43 AM
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Also added negative feedback to warn people. Will re.ove if you can prove you're legit.

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November 11, 2013, 07:29:06 AM
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I think that's quite obvious enough. Thanks for the heads up
 Maybe you should post this in th scam section. This guy should get his tags.

The forums don't use tags anymore, just the trust system.

I've made but one mistake in my scam accusations before, and that was toward CryptoRig and I apologized appropriately, and same will be the case if I'm wrong here. Although, that was a mistaken identity thing, I was trying to tag Crypto4Rig and got him instead, but same sentiments. I'm one to admit when I'm wrong, and am completely willing to accept that I'm wrong when I am. I however at this point do not feel I am on this case. I do somewhat believe in innocent until proven guilty, which is why I made it clear in my feedback and in my post that I'm not 100% certain, as the only way to be 100% certain is when someone has already scammed. Unfortunately that is too late.

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November 11, 2013, 07:32:57 AM
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It seems very fishy so I can understand why you made that post. It is better to falsy accuse someone, and apologise afterwards, instead of allowing someone to scam a lot of people. Thanks again Smiley

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November 12, 2013, 12:08:37 AM
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IP check is in, and lucerohein is an alt of rouf553 and cryptomaker22.

So at this point, I change my stance from probably scammer to definate. Looks like I don't have to apologize now  Smiley

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IP check is in, and lucerohein is an alt of rouf553 and cryptomaker22.

So at this point, I change my stance from probably scammer to definate. Looks like I don't have to apologize now  Smiley

Nice work there. Smiley
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