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January 24, 2021, 08:27:00 AM Last edit: January 26, 2021, 08:18:09 AM by Buff88 |
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Hello, the following events will be offered for live betting 👉 BUFF.bet: CS:GOThe Black Company - Checkmate (eXTREMESLAND) 07:00 CET Budapest5 - CULT (Shadow League) 10:00 CET SinnerS - Lilmix (European Development Championship) 13:00 CET HellRaisers -Nexus Gaming (Shadow League) 13:00 CET Sangal - Young Ninjas (Shadow League) 15:10 CET Tricked - ex-Ethereal (European Development Championship) 16:00 CET Team Vitality - Natus vincere (BLAST Premier: Global Final) 16:30 CET SinnerS - Vexed (Shadow League) 19:00 CET *Astralis - TBD (BLAST Premier: Global Final) 21:00 CET League of LegendsKT Rolster - T1 (LCK) 09:00 CET Rogue Warriors - Victory Five Gaming (LPL) 10:00 CET Gen.G - Hanwha Life Esports (LCK) 12:00 CET LNG Esports - Team WE (LPL) 12:00 CET Astralis - Team Vitality (LEC) 17:00 CET Rogue - SK gaming (LEC) 18:00 CET Misfits - MAD Lions (LEC) 19:00 CET Fnatic - Schalke 04 (LEC) 20:00 CET exceL - G2 (LEC) 21:00 CET Evil Geniuses - Golden Guardians (LCS) 22:00 CET Team Liquid - FLyQuest (LCS) 01:00 cet Selected matches from: TCL / VCSDOTA2Elephant - IG (DPC:CN Upper) 09:00 CET PSG.LGD - Team Aster (DPC:CN Upper) 12:00 CET Virtus.Pro - Team Empire (ESL One CIS: Upper) 18:00 CET EG - Sadboys (DPC:NA Upper) 21:00 CET Quincy Crew - 5ManMidas (DPC:NA Upper) 00:00 CET Selected matches from: Snow Sweet Snow / DPC: SEA - Div. 2 / ESL One: CIS - Div. 2 / OGA DPC: SA - Div. 2Esport Predictions: Team Vitality - Natus Vincere (BLAST Premier) : Correct Score 2:0 @ 2.85 Gen.G - Hanwha Life Esport (LCK) : Correct Score 2:0 @ 2.1 Sports predictions for today:Soccer ⚽️ / German Bundesliga / Schalke - Bayern/ Total Goals / Over 4.5 / Odd 2.14 American Football 🏈 / Tampa Bay - Green Bay / Match Winner / Tampa Bay / Odd 2.68 Place your Winning bets here 👉 BUFF.bet
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January 26, 2021, 08:19:34 AM |
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Hello, the following events will be offered for live betting 👉 BUFF.bet: CS:GOEC Kyiv - 4glory (Snow Sweet Snow) 09:00 CET GamerLergion - Trident (Snow Sweet Snow) 09:00 CET Rooster - VERTEX (ESEA Premier Australia) 10:00 CET Control - Mako (ESEA Premier Australia) 10:00 CET Sangal - OFFSET (Snow Sweet Snow) 12:00 CET eXploit - SG.pro (Snow Sweet Snow) 12:00 CET fnatic - OG (cs_summit) 14:00 CET Izako Boars - Sinners (Snow Sweet Snow) 15:00 CET Tricked - Lyngby Vikings (Snow Sweet Snow) 15:00 CET mousesports - Heroic (cs_summit) 17:30 CET Winstrike - Young Ninjas (Snow Sweet Snow) 18:00 CET HONORIS - Lilmix (Snow Sweet Snow) 18:00 CET ALTERNATE aTTaX - PACT (ESEA Premier Europe) 20:00 CET Virtus.pro - FURIA (cs_summit) 21:00 CET ESEA Premier North America Selected Matches League of LegendsRoyal Never Give Up - Victory Five (LPL) 10:00 CET LNG Esports - Bilibili Gaming (LPL) 12:00 CET Selected matches from: TCL / VCSDOTA2Vici Gaming - Team MagMa (DPC:CN Div.1) 09:00 CET Burjui - Spider Pigzs (Snow Sweet Snow) 10:00 CET Elephant - Team Aster (DPC: CN Div.1) 12:00 CET IMPERIAL PRO GAMING - XactJlepbl (Snow Sweet Snow) 13:00 CET Meta4Pro - No Bounty Hunter (DreamLeague EU Div.2) HIPPOMANIACS - Nemiga (Snow Sweet Snow) 16:00 CET Team Liquid - High Coast Esports (DreamLeague EU Div.1) 18:00 CET Brame - Creepwave (Snow Sweet Snow) 19:00 CET OG - Mudgolems (DreamLeague EU Div.1) 21:00 CET 4 Zoomers - A-Team (DPC: NA Div.1) 00:00 CET Electronic Boys - Team DogChamp (DPC: NA Div.2) 03:00 CET Selected matches from: Snow Sweet Snow / DPC: SEA - Div. 2 / ESL One: CIS - Div. 2 / OGA DPC: SA - Div. 2Esport Predictions:CSGO/cs_summit/fnatic - OG/Total Maps Played/Over 2.5/Odd 1.69 CSGO/cs_summit/mousesports - Heroic/Total Maps Played/Over 2.5/Odd 1.71 Sports predictions for today:Soccer ⚽️ / Italy / Coppa Italia / Inter Milan - AC Milan / Alternative Total Goals - Over 3.5 @ 2.64 Soccer ⚽️ / England / Premier League / Newcastle United - Leeds United / Alternative Total Goals - Over 3.5 @ 2.57 Place your Winning bets here 👉 BUFF.bet
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January 27, 2021, 07:38:09 AM |
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Hello, the following events will be offered for live betting 👉 BUFF.bet: CS:GO WINGS UP - D13 (Huya Dark Horese) 07:00 CET OFFSET - 4glory (Snow Sweet Snow) 09:00 CET eXploit - Trident (Snow Sweet Snow) 09:00 CET Sangal - Sinners (Snow Sweet Snow) 12:00 CET EC Kyiv - SG.pro (Snow Sweet Snow) 12:00 CET Complexity - Dignitas (cs_summit) 14:00 CET BIG - Hellraisers (DreamHack Open EU) 15:00 CET FunPlus Phoenix - Evil Geniuses (DreamHack Open EU) 15:00 CET HONORIS - Lyngby Viking (Snow Sweet Snow) 15:00 CET GamerLegion - Lilmix (Snow Sweet Snow) 15:00 CET Faze - MiBR (cs_summit) 17:30 CET Winstrike - Izako Boars (Snow Sweet Snow) 18:00 CET Tricketd - Young Ninjas (Snow Sweet Snow) 18:00 CET Gambit - Sprout (DreamHack Open) 18:30 CET Spirit - forZe (DreamHack Open) 18:30 CET NiP - Cloud9 (cs_summit) 21:00 CET Triumph - paiN (DreamHack Open NA) 22:00 CET Rebirth - Extra Salt (DreamHack Open NA) 22:00 CET SElected matches from: ESEA Premier AUS / EU / NA League of LegendsHanwha Life Esports - Fredit BRION (LCK) 09:00 CET eStar Pro - FunPlus Phoenix (LPL) 10:00 CET Invictus Gaming - Rogue Warriors (LPL) 12:00 CET DWG KIA - Gen.G (LCK) 12:00 CET DOTA2Vice - TNC (DPC: SEA - Div 1) 09:00 CET No Bounty Hunter - LVLUP (Snow Sweet Snow) 10:00 CET Execration - Fnatic (DPC: SEA - Div. 1) 12:00 CET Extremum - PuckChamp (Snow Sweet Snow) 13:00 CET NoUndying - Zero Respect (Snow Sweet Snow) 16:00 CET High Coast Esports - Tundra Esports (DreamLeague: EU - Div. 1) 17:55 CET Team Empire - Hellbear Smashers (Snow Sweet Snow) 19:00 CET Team Unknown - Thunder Predator (OGA DPC: SA - Div. 1) 21:00 CET No Bounty Hunter - HIPPOMANIACS (DreamLeague: EU - Div. 2) 21:00 CET EgoBoys - NoPing OGA DPC: SA - Div. 1 00:00 CET Selected matches from: DPC: NA - Div. 2 🏆Esport Predictions :🏆 LoL LCK / Hanwha Life Esports - Fredit BRION / Map Advantage -1.5 Hanwha Life Esports @1.64 odd LoL LPL /eStar Pro - FunPlus Phoenix / -1.5 Map Advantage FunPlus Phoenix @1.55 odd 🏆Sports predictions for today:🏆Soccer ⚽️ / England / Premier League / Everton FC - Leicester City / Match Winner - Everton FC @ 2.84 Soccer ⚽️ / Turkey / Super Kupa / Istanbul Basaksehir - Trabzonspor / Match Winner - Istanbul Basaksehir @ 2.61 Place your Winning bets here 👉 BUFF.bet
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January 27, 2021, 10:58:22 AM |
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Hello, the following events will be offered for live betting 👉 BUFF.bet: CS:GOWINGS UP - D13 (Huya Dark Horese) 07:00 CET OFFSET - 4glory (Snow Sweet Snow) 09:00 CET eXploit - Trident (Snow Sweet Snow) 09:00 CET Sangal - Sinners (Snow Sweet Snow) 12:00 CET EC Kyiv - SG.pro (Snow Sweet Snow) 12:00 CET Complexity - Dignitas (cs_summit) 14:00 CET BIG - Hellraisers (DreamHack Open EU) 15:00 CET FunPlus Phoenix - Evil Geniuses (DreamHack Open EU) 15:00 CET HONORIS - Lyngby Viking (Snow Sweet Snow) 15:00 CET GamerLegion - Lilmix (Snow Sweet Snow) 15:00 CET Faze - MiBR (cs_summit) 17:30 CET Winstrike - Izako Boars (Snow Sweet Snow) 18:00 CET Tricketd - Young Ninjas (Snow Sweet Snow) 18:00 CET Gambit - Sprout (DreamHack Open) 18:30 CET Spirit - forZe (DreamHack Open) 18:30 CET NiP - Cloud9 (cs_summit) 21:00 CET Triumph - paiN (DreamHack Open NA) 22:00 CET Rebirth - Extra Salt (DreamHack Open NA) 22:00 CET Selected matches from: ESEA Premier AUS / EU / NALeague of LegendsHanwha Life Esports - Fredit BRION (LCK) 09:00 CET eStar Pro - FunPlus Phoenix (LPL) 10:00 CET Invictus Gaming - Rogue Warriors (LPL) 12:00 CET DWG KIA - Gen.G (LCK) 12:00 CET DOTA 2Vice - TNC (DPC: SEA - Div 1) 09:00 CET No Bounty Hunter - LVLUP (Snow Sweet Snow) 10:00 CET Execration - Fnatic (DPC: SEA - Div. 1) 12:00 CET Extremum - PuckChamp (Snow Sweet Snow) 13:00 CET NoUndying - Zero Respect (Snow Sweet Snow) 16:00 CET High Coast Esports - Tundra Esports (DreamLeague: EU - Div. 1) 17:55 CET Team Empire - Hellbear Smashers (Snow Sweet Snow) 19:00 CET Team Unknown - Thunder Predator (OGA DPC: SA - Div. 1) 21:00 CET No Bounty Hunter - HIPPOMANIACS (DreamLeague: EU - Div. 2) 21:00 CET EgoBoys - NoPing OGA DPC: SA - Div. 1 00:00 CET Selected matches from: DPC: NA - Div. 2🏆 Sports predictions for today🏆 Soccer ⚽️/ England / Premier League / Everton FC - Leicester City / Match Winner - Everton FC @ 2.84 Soccer ⚽️/ Turkey / Super Kupa / Istanbul Basaksehir - Trabzonspor / Match Winner - Istanbul Basaksehir @ 2.61 🏆 Esport Predicions🏆 LoL LCK / Hanwha Life Esports - Fredit BRION / 1.5 Map Advantage - Hanwha Life Esports @ 1.64 odd LoL LPL /eStar Pro - FunPlus Phoenix / -1.5 Map Advantage - FunPlus Phoenix @ 1.55 odd Place your Winning bets here 👉 BUFF.bet
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January 28, 2021, 07:44:28 AM Last edit: January 29, 2021, 07:50:12 AM by Buff88 |
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Hello! The following events will be offered for live betting today 👉 BUFF.bet: CS:GOSinners - SG.pro (Snow Sweet Snow) 09:00 CET Trident - Young Ninjas (Snow Sweet Snow) 09:00 CET Winstrike - Tricked (Snow Sweet Snow) 12:00 CET OFFSETE - Lilmix (Snow Sweet Snow) 12:00 CET OG - Dignitas (cs_summit) 14:00 CET Gambit - Spirit (DreamHack Open EU) 15:0 CET BIG - Evil Geniuses (DreamHack Open EU) 15:0 CET Sangal - HONORIS (Snow Sweet Snow) 15:00 CET EC Kyiv - GamerLegion (Snow Sweet Snow) 15:00 CET Heroic - MIBR (cs_summit) 17:30 CET Sprout - forZe (DreamHack Open EU) 18:30 CET HellRaisers - FunPlus Phoenix (DreamHack Open EU) 18:30 CET FURIA - Cloud9 (cs_summit) 21:00 CET Dota 2ZeroTwo - Lilgun (DPC SEA Div.2) 09:00 CET Nemiga - XactJlepbI (Snow Sweet Snow) 10:00 CET PuckChamp - B8 (ESL One CIS: Div.2) 11:55 CET 496 Gaming - BOOM (DPC SEA Div.1) 12:00 CET Brame - Imperial Pro Gaming (Snow Sweet Snow) 13:00 CET VP.Prodigy - XactJlepbI (ESL One CIS: Div.2) 14:55 CET EXTREMUM - Unique (ESL One CIS: Div.1) 14:55 CET Creepwave - SpiderPigz (Snow Sweet Snow) 16:00 CET Infamous - Incubus (DPC SA: Div.2) 18:00 CET burjui - HippoManiacs (Snow Sweet Snow) 19:00 CET Crewmates - Inverse (DPC SA: Div.2) 21:00 CET Undying - 5ManMidas (DPC NA: Div.1) 21:00 CET Evil Geniuses - Black N Yellow (DPC NA: Div.1) 00:00 CET League of LegendsDRX - KT Rolster (LCK) 09:00 CET LGD Gaming - Bilibili Gaming (LPL) 10:00 CET T1 - Liiv SANDBOX (LCK) 12:00 CET Oh My God - Suning (LPL) 12:00 CET 🏆 eSport predictions for today🏆 DRX - KT Rolster (LCK) 09:00 CET -- Total Maps Played / Over 2.5 / @1.75 FURIA - Cloud9 (cs_summit) 21:00 CET -- Total Maps Played / Over 2.5 / @2.01 🏆 Sport predictions for today🏆 Soccer ⚽️/ England / Premier League / Tottenham Hotspur - Liverpool FC / Match Winner - Tottenham Hotspur @ 3.39 Soccer ⚽️/ Italy / Coppa Italia / SSC Napoli - Spezia Calcio / Total Goals - Over 3.5 @ 2.34 Place your Winning bets here 👉 BUFF.bet
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January 29, 2021, 07:51:07 AM |
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Hello! The following events will be offered for live betting today 👉 BUFF.bet: CS:GOSinners - Lilmix (Snow Sweet Snow) 09:00 CET Nexus - Case (Shadow League) 10:00 CET HONORIS - Tricked (Snow Sweet Snow) 12:00 CET Sangal - Sinners (Shadow League) 13:00 CET NIP - Dignitas (cs_summit) 14:00 CET Evil Geniuses - FunPlus Phoenix (DreamHack) 15:00 CET EC Kyiv - Trident (Snow Sweet Snow) 15:00 CET GamerLegion - Cult (Shadow League) 16:00 CET MIBR - Cloud9 (cs_summit) 17:30 CET Spirit - Sprout (DreamHack) 18:30 CET Invictus Int - HellRaisers (Shadow League) 19:00 CET mousesports - FURIA (cs_summit) 21:00 CET paiN - Rebirth (DreamHack) 22:00 CET Dota 2Elephant - LBZS (DPC: CN Div.1) 09:00 CET Hellbear Smashers - No Bounty Hunter (Snow Sweet Snow) 10:00 CET XactJlepbl - Winstrike (ESL One: CIS- Div.2) 12:00 CET PuckChamp - NoUndying (Snow Sweet Snow) 13:00 CET Virtus.pro - Live to Win (ESL One: CIS Div.1) 15:00 CET Nemiga - Spider Pigzs (Snow Sweet Snow) 16:00 CET IMPERIAL PRO GAMING - Creepwave (Snow Sweet Snow) 16:00 CET Team Empire - Team Spirit (ESL One: CIS - Div.1) 18:00 CET Hokori - Mad Kings (OGA DPC: SA - Div.2) 18:00 CET Brame - HIPPOMANIACS (Snow Sweet Snow) 19:00 CET XactJlepbl - Burjui (Snow Sweet Snow) 19:00 CET Infamous - Team Unknown (OGA DPC: SA - Div.1) 21:00 CET Beastcoast - Latam Defenders (OGA DPC: SA - Div.1) 00:00 CET League of LegendsNongshim Red Force - Afreeca Freecs (LCK) 09:00 CET eStar Pro - LNG Esports (LPL) 10:00 CET Team WE - Royal Never Give Up (LPL) 12:00 CET DWG KIA - Hanwha Life Esports (LCK) 12:00 CET 🏆 eSport predictions for today🏆 CSGO/cs_summit/NiP - Dignitas/Total Maps Played/Over 2.5/Odd 1.87 CSGO/CS_summit/MiBR - Cloud9/Total Maps Played/Over 2.5/Odd 1.94 🏆 Sport predictions for today🏆 Soccer ⚽️/ France Ligue 1/ Lyon FC - Girondins Bordeaux/ Spread: Lyon -1.25/Odds:1.93 Soccer ⚽️/ VfB Stuttgart - Fsv Mainz 05 / Match Winner: VfB Stuttgart/ Odds: 1.75 Place your Winning bets here 👉 BUFF.bet
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January 30, 2021, 07:27:04 AM Last edit: January 30, 2021, 07:45:21 AM by GekkeBelg |
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Hello Buff, I have joined in August 2020 after I informed if crypto accounts can be anonymous and I was told yes. I placed several bets for several months without withdrawing ever. In total I deposited 350 mbtc over this period. Right now my balance is 290mbtc, meaning I have an overall loss of 60mbtc. Which is fine, it's my own fault that I lose, not complaining about that. However, now I finally have requested my first ever withdrawal (200mbtc as I will leave the other 90mbtc on my account to keep playing with) and a couple hours later I suddenly see the funds are back on my account. I was really surprised because I thought it would go quick and easy, especially because my account status showed in green color "verified". I go into live chat and ask why my withdrawal appears to have been cancelled. I suddenly see in my account profile that it changed to "not verified" and the live chat operator copy/pasts me the following text: Dear XXXX,
Welcome to Buff.bet.
As advised by our Risk management department, a document verification procedure of your account needs to be performed as a customer due diligence procedure.
As part of the standard customer verification procedure, we are kindly asking you to provide us with the following up-to-date (maximum 6 months old) photos of:
- the front and back sides of your ID card or passport; - a recent utility bill or a bank statement addressed to you and sent to the address you have registered with us; - a photo of yourself holding your ID card/passport with a handwritten present date and a “BUFF” note on a piece of white paper; - a photo of your passport/ID card, holding it over your Buff.bet account details page.
Additionally, please type in the next email your home address and phone number so that we could update this missing information in your account details.
We are looking forward to hearing from you. Kind regards, Buff.bet Support representative - Pavel So, despite I was informed that if you bet only in crypto, no verificaion is required, I suddenly now have to give out all my personal details. And not just some basic things, but all kinds of things as you can see above. And this while I did not even make a profit on Buff! If I would have made a large win I would somehow still understand that a verification is required! Also, I never took any bonus and never used a VPN/proxy to log in. I chose Bitcoin bookies cause I value my privacy and now all this. I am very disappointed. I hope you can check this within the management team and I hope this is all a mistake. Please let me know if all of this is necessary and if it is, it will be a big red flag for many crypto users in the future. Oh and btw I also had a look at the openingpost of this thread and this is your rule listed there: Swift registration We understand that privacy is a significant aspect of using cryptocurrency, so on this website, you only need email, username, and password to create an account. And a couple posts later you wrote also this: Please note that for Buff88 cryptocurrency users there is no KYC procedure in place upon withdrawal.
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January 30, 2021, 08:16:34 AM |
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The following events will be offered for live betting today 👉 BUFF.bet: CSGOBudapest Five - Young Ninjas (Shadow League) 13:00 CET Virtus.pro - NIP (cs_summit) 14:00 CET BIG - Spirit (DreamHack) 15:00 CET Vexed - Unique (Shadow League) 16:00 CET fnatic - Cloud9 (cs_summit) 17:30 CET Gambit - FunPlus Phoenix (DreamHack) 18:30 CET OG - Heroic (cs_summit) 21:00 CET Extra Salt - Rebirth (DreamHack North America) 22:00 CET DOTA 2 TNC - Neon Esports (DPC: SEA Div1) 09:00 CET 496 Gaming - T1 (DPC: SEA Div1) 12:00 CET Hellbear Smashers - Meta4Pro (DreamLeague: EU Div2) 15:00 CET 0-900 - Gorillaz-Pride (OGA DPC: SA Div2) 18:00 CET Vikin.gg - Team Secret (DreamLeague: EU Div1) 18:00 CET Alliance - OG (DreamLeague: EU Div1) 21:00 CET SG E-sports - Thunder Predator (OGA DPC: SA Div1) 00:00 CET League of LegendsFredit BRION - DRX (LCK) 09:00 CET TT Gaming - Victory Five (LPL) 10:00 CET Liiv SANDBOX - Gen.G (LCK) 12:00 CET Invictus Gaming - FunPlus Phoenix (LPL) 12:00 CET 🏆eSport predictions for todayCSGO/cs_summit/fnatic - Cloud9/Total Maps Played/Over 2.5/Odd 2.13 CSGO/cs_summit/OG - Heroic/Total Maps Played/Over 2.5/ Odd 2.08 Sport predictions for today🏆Germany - Bundesliga - Soccer /Bayern Munich 1899 Hoffenheim / Spread: FC Bayern Munich -2.0/Odds: 1.92 England - Premier League/ Manchester City - Sheffield United / Spread: Manchester City -2.25/Odds:1.98/ Place your Winning bets here 👉 BUFF.bet
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Buff88
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January 30, 2021, 08:45:30 AM |
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Hello Buff, I have joined in August 2020 after I informed if crypto accounts can be anonymous and I was told yes. I placed several bets for several months without withdrawing ever. In total I deposited 350 mbtc over this period. Right now my balance is 290mbtc, meaning I have an overall loss of 60mbtc. Which is fine, it's my own fault that I lose, not complaining about that. However, now I finally have requested my first ever withdrawal (200mbtc as I will leave the other 90mbtc on my account to keep playing with) and a couple hours later I suddenly see the funds are back on my account. I was really surprised because I thought it would go quick and easy, especially because my account status showed in green color "verified". I go into live chat and ask why my withdrawal appears to have been cancelled. I suddenly see in my account profile that it changed to "not verified" and the live chat operator copy/pasts me the following text: Dear XXXX,
Welcome to Buff.bet.
As advised by our Risk management department, a document verification procedure of your account needs to be performed as a customer due diligence procedure.
As part of the standard customer verification procedure, we are kindly asking you to provide us with the following up-to-date (maximum 6 months old) photos of:
- the front and back sides of your ID card or passport; - a recent utility bill or a bank statement addressed to you and sent to the address you have registered with us; - a photo of yourself holding your ID card/passport with a handwritten present date and a “BUFF” note on a piece of white paper; - a photo of your passport/ID card, holding it over your Buff.bet account details page.
Additionally, please type in the next email your home address and phone number so that we could update this missing information in your account details.
We are looking forward to hearing from you. Kind regards, Buff.bet Support representative - Pavel So, despite I was informed that if you bet only in crypto, no verificaion is required, I suddenly now have to give out all my personal details. And not just some basic things, but all kinds of things as you can see above. And this while I did not even make a profit on Buff! If I would have made a large win I would somehow still understand that a verification is required! Also, I never took any bonus and never used a VPN/proxy to log in. I chose Bitcoin bookies cause I value my privacy and now all this. I am very disappointed. I hope you can check this within the management team and I hope this is all a mistake. Please let me know if all of this is necessary and if it is, it will be a big red flag for many crypto users in the future. Oh and btw I also had a look at the openingpost of this thread and this is your rule listed there: Swift registration We understand that privacy is a significant aspect of using cryptocurrency, so on this website, you only need email, username, and password to create an account. And a couple posts later you wrote also this: Please note that for Buff88 cryptocurrency users there is no KYC procedure in place upon withdrawal. ------------------------ Dear GekkeBelg, Thank you for your post and provided information. We reviewed your case and would like to inform you that our support agent asked for the verification as an enhanced due diligence procedure. Please note, that the minimum required information for the purposes of creating a cryptocurrency account is only an email. However, as our identity verification policy requires "You will have to provide identification whenever you make a withdrawal of funds amounting to Two Thousand Three Hundred Euros (EUR 2,300) or more" ( https://buff.bet/en/identity-verification). The amount of your withdrawal request reached the threshold triggering due diligence procedure. With that being said and in accordance with our policies: "In certain circumstances, we may have to contact you and ask you to provide further information to us directly in order to complete the Checks". We would like to assist you to complete the verification procedure in a timely manner. Please contact us, if you will need any further information. BUFF.bet Support Team
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January 30, 2021, 09:14:05 AM |
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It is quite common to have to go through verification if you want to request a withdrawal. I don't see the problem with that. The sooner you cooperate with your verification, the sooner you will have the money.
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Hello Buff, I have joined in August 2020 after I informed if crypto accounts can be anonymous and I was told yes. I placed several bets for several months without withdrawing ever. In total I deposited 350 mbtc over this period. Right now my balance is 290mbtc, meaning I have an overall loss of 60mbtc. Which is fine, it's my own fault that I lose, not complaining about that. However, now I finally have requested my first ever withdrawal (200mbtc as I will leave the other 90mbtc on my account to keep playing with) and a couple hours later I suddenly see the funds are back on my account. I was really surprised because I thought it would go quick and easy, especially because my account status showed in green color "verified". I go into live chat and ask why my withdrawal appears to have been cancelled. I suddenly see in my account profile that it changed to "not verified" and the live chat operator copy/pasts me the following text: Dear XXXX,
Welcome to Buff.bet.
As advised by our Risk management department, a document verification procedure of your account needs to be performed as a customer due diligence procedure.
As part of the standard customer verification procedure, we are kindly asking you to provide us with the following up-to-date (maximum 6 months old) photos of:
- the front and back sides of your ID card or passport; - a recent utility bill or a bank statement addressed to you and sent to the address you have registered with us; - a photo of yourself holding your ID card/passport with a handwritten present date and a “BUFF” note on a piece of white paper; - a photo of your passport/ID card, holding it over your Buff.bet account details page.
Additionally, please type in the next email your home address and phone number so that we could update this missing information in your account details.
We are looking forward to hearing from you. Kind regards, Buff.bet Support representative - Pavel So, despite I was informed that if you bet only in crypto, no verificaion is required, I suddenly now have to give out all my personal details. And not just some basic things, but all kinds of things as you can see above. And this while I did not even make a profit on Buff! If I would have made a large win I would somehow still understand that a verification is required! Also, I never took any bonus and never used a VPN/proxy to log in. I chose Bitcoin bookies cause I value my privacy and now all this. I am very disappointed. I hope you can check this within the management team and I hope this is all a mistake. Please let me know if all of this is necessary and if it is, it will be a big red flag for many crypto users in the future. Oh and btw I also had a look at the openingpost of this thread and this is your rule listed there: Swift registration We understand that privacy is a significant aspect of using cryptocurrency, so on this website, you only need email, username, and password to create an account. And a couple posts later you wrote also this: Please note that for Buff88 cryptocurrency users there is no KYC procedure in place upon withdrawal. ------------------------ Dear GekkeBelg, Thank you for your post and provided information. We reviewed your case and would like to inform you that our support agent asked for the verification as an enhanced due diligence procedure. Please note, that the minimum required information for the purposes of creating a cryptocurrency account is only an email. However, as our identity verification policy requires "You will have to provide identification whenever you make a withdrawal of funds amounting to Two Thousand Three Hundred Euros (EUR 2,300) or more" ( https://buff.bet/en/identity-verification). The amount of your withdrawal request reached the threshold triggering due diligence procedure. With that being said and in accordance with our policies: "In certain circumstances, we may have to contact you and ask you to provide further information to us directly in order to complete the Checks". We would like to assist you to complete the verification procedure in a timely manner. Please contact us, if you will need any further information. BUFF.bet Support Team Okay, well I thought this 2300 euro limit only counts when you are betting with fiat currency. You really made it look like that with crypto no verification at all is needed at any point. Also it's very misleading that the account status shows "verified" and later on this can change to "not verified". What is the value of having it listed as verified then? Verified means it should stay verified in my view. So, what is the threshold in mbtc for a withdrawal without verification? Is this the equivalent of 2300 euro? Please let me know how much mbtc I can withdraw now before the verification already because I need some mbtc really soon and I cannot wait all that long until the verification is completed. Also I suggest you change the opening post of this topic because there is no mention at all that if you reach 2300 euro or more there will be a verification needed.
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January 30, 2021, 05:04:37 PM |
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@Buff88 Do you have any reasons to believe that the user GekkeBelg has abused your TOS, is using multiple accounts, or did anything else to warrant asking for KYC? If not, and his story is true, It doesn't seem right that you request that he undergoes KYC when you allowed him to deposit and play without going through KYC from the very beginning. If you have a €2.300 limit, you shouldn't allow users deposit funds without informing them or asking for KYC before the deposit. Doing it your way, makes it look like you are fine with players depositing and gambling with any amounts as long as they lose it. When they win, or like in this case, they ask for their money back, things change.
If he lost money, and you have no reasons to believe he has broken any rules, why require KYC? If he rejects sending his private info, are you going to take his money that doesn't belong to you?
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January 30, 2021, 05:41:44 PM |
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For what it's worth, I am a net winner at Buff.bet. I was asked to do the KYC and was paid within hours. I still bet there too
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GekkeBelg
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January 30, 2021, 06:06:05 PM |
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For what it's worth, I am a net winner at Buff.bet. I was asked to do the KYC and was paid within hours. I still bet there too
Well if you are a net winner, then I can imagine a KYC can be justified in some cases. However, I think any serious crypto book should always allow a user to withdraw up to the amount of his total deposits without KYC. Especially if they advertise with no verification needed for crypto accounts.
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January 30, 2021, 09:14:48 PM |
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For what it's worth, I am a net winner at Buff.bet. I was asked to do the KYC and was paid within hours. I still bet there too
Well if you are a net winner, then I can imagine a KYC can be justified in some cases. However, I think any serious crypto book should always allow a user to withdraw up to the amount of his total deposits without KYC. Especially if they advertise with no verification needed for crypto accounts. Since last year, every licensed gambling company in Curacao has to ask its customers to comply with the kyc procedure when paying out. which could add up to 2300 eur. There are 4 master license holders in Curacao. The buff.bet licensee may have these strict requirements, and it may be more flexible with others. I don't think you can get around it and that buff.bet is obliged to perform this check. If you have nothing to hide, you better start the verification soon. That kyc doesn't have to last long, does it? What you usually see is that sites allow you to deposit big, but when you withdraw then the the kyc starts.
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GekkeBelg
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January 30, 2021, 10:33:59 PM |
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Buff, my passport and a proof of address have been uploaded in the cashier. I hope you can quickly verify them and destroy them after this. I don't want any bookmakers to keep my files on their PC. Thanks
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magneto
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January 30, 2021, 10:55:55 PM |
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Does this site have anything to do with the Chinese e-gaming trading site NetEase Buff or is it just a coincidence? Really refreshing to see a site that is entire completely focused on the e-sports scene, though. Most traditional sportsbooks simply don't offer them or have really low limits. Buff, my passport and a proof of address have been uploaded in the cashier. I hope you can quickly verify them and destroy them after this. I don't want any bookmakers to keep my files on their PC. Thanks
The whole point of a KYC procedure is for the site to keep your info - if they don't, then you might as well stay anonymous?
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GekkeBelg
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January 30, 2021, 11:11:59 PM |
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Does this site have anything to do with the Chinese e-gaming trading site NetEase Buff or is it just a coincidence? Really refreshing to see a site that is entire completely focused on the e-sports scene, though. Most traditional sportsbooks simply don't offer them or have really low limits. Buff, my passport and a proof of address have been uploaded in the cashier. I hope you can quickly verify them and destroy them after this. I don't want any bookmakers to keep my files on their PC. Thanks
The whole point of a KYC procedure is for the site to keep your info - if they don't, then you might as well stay anonymous? They can keep my info, just have to delete my passport photo. I don't like to have my passport photo roaming around in a database somewhere.
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