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November 12, 2013, 01:13:30 AM |
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More right leaning? left leaning? For me its reaffirmed my libertarian stance.
What about you guys?
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Mike Christ
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November 12, 2013, 01:26:06 AM |
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I went straight from a democrat to an anarchist in a matter of a few months; honestly, I blame myrkul
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Ekaros
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November 12, 2013, 01:27:43 AM |
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Not really.
If something maybe even more to left. I can't just understand how stupid our current monetary system is...
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beetcoin
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November 12, 2013, 01:53:58 AM |
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i have to admit that i voted for obama both times. i gave him a pass for not going after bank/wall street execs, but the last straw for me was when he sent the hammer down on snowden, whom i believe is 100% innocent. julian assange, on the other hand, i found to be more seedy.
anyways, the whole snowden issue was an eye opener for me. obama wants state police, and he wants to spread the american hegemony across the world. i won't be voting for a democrat again.
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Ekaros
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November 12, 2013, 02:03:15 AM |
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i have to admit that i voted for obama both times. i gave him a pass for not going after bank/wall street execs, but the last straw for me was when he sent the hammer down on snowden, whom i believe is 100% innocent. julian assange, on the other hand, i found to be more seedy.
anyways, the whole snowden issue was an eye opener for me. obama wants state police, and he wants to spread the american hegemony across the world. i won't be voting for a democrat again.
Assange is a weird case. But, if Sweden is in it it's just one more example of hegemony, he isn't even a citizen after all.
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BCB
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BCJ
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November 12, 2013, 02:06:33 AM |
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Is has renewed my beliefs in:
Personal freedom
Private property and
Sound money
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Carlton Banks
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November 12, 2013, 02:16:42 AM |
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More right leaning? left leaning? For me its reaffirmed my libertarian stance.
So you're more conservative now?
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Vires in numeris
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beetcoin
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November 12, 2013, 02:19:26 AM |
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More right leaning? left leaning? For me its reaffirmed my libertarian stance.
So you're more conservative now? i don't get why libertarians are supposed to be more conservative? if anything, they are more conservative on fiscal policy, but for social issues they are definitely liberal. a lot of conservatives label themselves as libertarians, but they are just conservatives.
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Mike Christ
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November 12, 2013, 02:23:56 AM |
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More right leaning? left leaning? For me its reaffirmed my libertarian stance.
So you're more conservative now? i don't get why libertarians are supposed to be more conservative? if anything, they are more conservative on fiscal policy, but for social issues they are definitely liberal. a lot of conservatives label themselves as libertarians, but they are just conservatives. I'm still getting over the fact that liberal means the opposite of what it used to mean and so we had to invent an entirely new word for the concept.
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Carlton Banks
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November 12, 2013, 02:29:55 AM |
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More right leaning? left leaning? For me its reaffirmed my libertarian stance.
So you're more conservative now? i don't get why libertarians are supposed to be more conservative? if anything, they are more conservative on fiscal policy, but for social issues they are definitely liberal. a lot of conservatives label themselves as libertarians, but they are just conservatives. So you're saying that liberals and libertarians are cut from the same cloth? That's preposterous, anyone can tell just from the way their names are spelled that liberals and libertarians are complete polar opposites. Liberals want people to be free to do what they want as long as the government doesn't say no, and libertarians want people to be free to do what a responsible and prudent business would do to help their government keep tax low.
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Walter Rothbard
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November 12, 2013, 02:32:19 AM |
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I went straight from a democrat to an anarchist in a matter of a few months; honestly, I blame myrkul haha, former right-winger here. So glad to meet you in the middle, friend! I made the journey in the years leading up to Bitcoin.
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pand70
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November 12, 2013, 02:34:47 AM |
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Labels... labels everywhere...
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Carlton Banks
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November 12, 2013, 02:37:08 AM |
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Labels... labels everywhere... Don't be so cynical, political labels are much more important than the logic or the principles that give them meaning.
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MysteryMiner
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Death to enemies!
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November 12, 2013, 02:41:32 AM |
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Always been far-leftist on economics and far-right in other things. Bitcoin and this community made me more positive about libertarianism. Libertarianism is not for me but probably I found a solution to USA.
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Mike Christ
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November 12, 2013, 02:43:38 AM |
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haha, former right-winger here. So glad to meet you in the middle, friend! I made the journey in the years leading up to Bitcoin.
What was the defining moment when you realized you were an anarchist?
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Spendulus
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November 12, 2013, 02:47:04 AM |
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i have to admit that i voted for obama both times. i gave him a pass for not going after bank/wall street execs, but the last straw for me was when he sent the hammer down on snowden, whom i believe is 100% innocent. julian assange, on the other hand, i found to be more seedy.
anyways, the whole snowden issue was an eye opener for me. obama wants state police, and he wants to spread the american hegemony across the world. i won't be voting for a democrat again.
Sure, just vote for a third party candidate, and become no more or less than a useful idiot for the Great Diviser. And IIRC, Obama clearly stated in his first election that he wanted a 'civilian police force', as strong as the military. The problem was that people did not hear what was clearly being said. I think they believed somehow in their own hopes and aspirations for a better world, and externalized those into an individual with no actual content - Obama. He's basically destroyed the Democratic party, turning it into a fascist personality cult driven and totalitarian exercise in yesterday's socialist and utopian bullshit. All that's left is the politics of power, and the buying of votes.
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hawkeye
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November 12, 2013, 02:48:22 AM |
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a lot of conservatives label themselves as libertarians, but they are just conservatives.
I completely agree with that.
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pand70
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November 12, 2013, 02:51:50 AM |
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Labels... labels everywhere... Don't be so cynical, political labels are much more important than the logic or the principles that give them meaning. Important for political marketing you mean
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Elwar
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Viva Ut Vivas
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November 12, 2013, 02:59:57 AM |
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Yes, I used to want smaller government.
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First seastead company actually selling sea homes: Ocean Builders https://ocean.builders Of course we accept bitcoin.
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Carlton Banks
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November 12, 2013, 03:00:58 AM |
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Labels... labels everywhere... Don't be so cynical, political labels are much more important than the logic or the principles that give them meaning. Important for political marketing you mean Well, it's more that they don't always have to mean the same thing. You can change what your position is on just about anything, but you're still being consistent!
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