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April 14, 2018, 05:56:19 PM
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Whenever I encountered a copy-paster, I always report them. Reporting them require me to find the existing thread ,archiving and quoting the evidence and file my evidence report in any one of the below thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2855895.0  by marlboroza
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.0  by LoyceV

I saw rickbig41 in LoyceV thread banning copy-paster but it does not look to me that moderator has gone through the whole list and below question of LoyceV is still unanswered.

Question for Mods: if I report the post, and it gets deleted, do you still ban the account based on the archived link?

Theymos himself banned some users in marlboroza thread.
Very well-spotted!

matthewogus01: Permabanned
Akosibatman: That seems to be an acceptable level of paraphrasing
Chimcoin: Permabanned
VINCEAKTN: Permabanned
onpages: Permabanned
emondot: Permabanned
Lookjoz: Permabanned
Kawasanz: Permabanned
HappyDevil: Permabanned
Riqelme: Permabanned
desklamp: Was already permabanned
Mystezi: Permabanned

Anything that'd get you expelled from a university for plagiarism (which all of the above-banned examples would) will get you permabanned from this forum, regardless of your rank.

So it is proved beyond doubt that forum permabanned for plagiarism but why the forum still not created any sticky thread (and off course a single thread) to report them.

Apart from a single sticky thread , I will suggest to create a list of permabanned user for copy/pasting and moderators giving track that which post of that thread they have processed. This will help in reporting as we can easily check whether user is already banned or reported by other but pending review by moderator so no need to take action or re-report.

PS: It take effort to report the user but when nobody take actions on these reports then it look likes wasted time and effort and in other hand it give wrong signal that forum is not serious about plagiarism.

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April 14, 2018, 06:14:21 PM
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You can report them by just pressing the "report" button, you don't need to find a thread. And those reports get handled as well (obviously).

I used to do that but last time I also posted as well as reported because there are so many people doing the same, to get merits I suppose.

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April 14, 2018, 06:24:34 PM
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You can report them by just pressing the "report" button, you don't need to find a thread. And those resports get handled as well (obviously).

I used to do that but last time I also posted as well as reported because there are so many people doing the same, to get merits I suppose.

"Report To Moderator" is for reporting shit post/cross post and it goes to normal moderator queue that do not have capability to ban the user.
 

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April 14, 2018, 06:28:36 PM
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Exactly. You just need to click the report button and fill the box "copy pasted from =>url"
It 's the most efficient way for the moderators to notice you and saving your time as well.

I posted recently on the topic from Loyce because
1)we don't have any moderation in the French section
2) the guy was freely scamming people but again as said no mod

...but I knew posting on the topic, a Mod from the English section would kick the guy out asap

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April 14, 2018, 06:43:01 PM
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You can report them by just pressing the "report" button, you don't need to find a thread. And those resports get handled as well (obviously).

I used to do that but last time I also posted as well as reported because there are so many people doing the same, to get merits I suppose.

"Report To Moderator" is for reporting shit post/cross post and it goes to normal moderator queue that do not have capability to ban the user.
 

Report to mod is for reporting anything.

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April 14, 2018, 06:43:38 PM
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Exactly. You just need to click the report button and fill the box "copy pasted from =>url"
It 's the most efficient way for the moderators to notice you and saving your time as well.

I posted recently on the topic from Loyce because
1)we don't have any moderation in the French section
2) the guy was freely scamming people but again as said no mod

...but I knew posting on the topic, a Mod from the English section would kick the guy out asap

It is not a good choice to give the whole URL when some time people copy in parts. I did not understand why you both want to duplicate the effort by others when user might be already banned or reported by others.


Apart from a single sticky thread , I will suggest to create a list of permabanned user for copy/pasting and moderators giving track that which post of that thread they have processed. This will help in reporting as we can easily check whether user is already banned or reported by other but pending review by moderator so no need to take action or re-report.


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April 14, 2018, 07:04:19 PM
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Using the report button for this issue has been working fine for a long time and it isn’t duplicating or anything because most of the times when you report, you report a recent post, and if someone has already reported that user, it is even better. It takes seconds to report someone.

What efforts are you talking about?

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April 14, 2018, 07:26:15 PM
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Using the report button for this issue has been working fine for a long time and it isn’t duplicating or anything because most of the times when you report, you report a recent post, and if someone has already reported that user, it is even better. It takes seconds to report someone.

What efforts are you talking about?


I already stated you " normal moderator  do not have capability to ban the user. "
I am sure when  you see duplicated content , you automatically recognize it but you need to use your memory+Google search to find that original URL. I even found people that copied from the local language board , used "Google translator" and posted in English forum.
 
I just want to say if I  find copy-pasted content, I can just refer to single list and single thread (that will be much easier), It will also serve lesson for other stupid users that copy pasting causes ban.

I guarantee, you will get one thread less in Meta daily, because these copy-paster when banned create a thread here to ask Why banned ?
Creating a list and single official thread is fair to everybody.  

 

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April 14, 2018, 08:42:50 PM
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I will suggest to create a list of permabanned user for copy/pasting and moderators giving track that which post of that thread they have processed. This will help in reporting as we can easily check whether user is already banned or reported by other but pending review by moderator so no need to take action or re-report.
A Rank "Banned" has been suggested before (by me and other people). That would be the fastest way to know an account is banned already, and doesn't need further attention.

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but it does not look to me that moderator has gone through the whole list
I'd go through the whole thread myself to list them all, if there would be any way for me to see if an account has been banned already. But I can't see that, so I can't easily make a list of accounts that still need to be banned for plagiarism.

Report to mod is for reporting anything.
Chances are the Mod who handles the ticket can't ban the user. Most Mods can only nuke Newbies. The post will get deleted, but the user won't get banned.

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April 15, 2018, 05:11:38 AM
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Chances are the Mod who handles the ticket can't ban the user. Most Mods can only nuke Newbies. The post will get deleted, but the user won't get banned.

Can't send a message to the person who is able to ban that user?


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April 15, 2018, 06:48:07 AM
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Chances are the Mod who handles the ticket can't ban the user. Most Mods can only nuke Newbies. The post will get deleted, but the user won't get banned.

Can't send a message to the person who is able to ban that user?


Only admins can ban. we have one active admin. don't spam them. moderators could tell global mods and the admin for the ban. if you are adding a sticky for this, add one for merit related moaning.
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April 15, 2018, 11:03:03 AM
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Chances are the Mod who handles the ticket can't ban the user. Most Mods can only nuke Newbies. The post will get deleted, but the user won't get banned.

This may be true, although the mods aren't robots and can pass up on taking a action and leave it in the queue for someone who does have the capability of taking more serious actions against the account. For example, I've reported a few people in the past which I assume  were left as I've received messages from cyrus telling me the accounts have been banned a few hours after the initial report.

Threads are able to include more information than you could on a report. The report field is quite limited and I often find myself having to recheck what I've written. Plus, I'm not sure how clear longer reports are for the moderators.

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April 15, 2018, 02:32:12 PM
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This may be true, although the mods aren't robots and can pass up on taking a action and leave it in the queue for someone who does have the capability of taking more serious actions against the account.
My assumption is that it saves everybody work if that "someone" checks one thread with a list of plagiarism once in a while, and bans the perps.

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For example, I've reported a few people in the past which I assume  were left as I've received messages from cyrus telling me the accounts have been banned a few hours after the initial report.
I have never received any direct feedback on any of the posts I've reported.

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April 15, 2018, 02:48:57 PM
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I will suggest to create a list of permabanned user for copy/pasting and moderators giving track that which post of that thread they have processed. This will help in reporting as we can easily check whether user is already banned or reported by other but pending review by moderator so no need to take action or re-report.
A Rank "Banned" has been suggested before (by me and other people). That would be the fastest way to know an account is banned already, and doesn't need further attention.

Any particular reason was given for not implementing the suggestion? Actually I am not in mission to catch copy-paster , but they are so widespread in forum that I automatically find them.  A Banned list is not only useful for people reporting them, but it will cause fear in copy-paster too. When they see that so many user are Permabanned , they will automatically mend their ways.

Chances are the Mod who handles the ticket can't ban the user. Most Mods can only nuke Newbies. The post will get deleted, but the user won't get banned.
Can't send a message to the person who is able to ban that user?

Have you tried that? My personal experience is that Mods/Admin rarely reply to PM.

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April 15, 2018, 04:25:52 PM
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A Rank "Banned" has been suggested before (by me and other people). That would be the fastest way to know an account is banned already, and doesn't need further attention.
Any particular reason was given for not implementing the suggestion?
No.

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Actually I am not in mission to catch copy-paster , but they are so widespread in forum that I automatically find them.
I don't look for them either, but once I'm suspicious I check some posts.

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A Banned list is not only useful for people reporting them, but it will cause fear in copy-paster too. When they see that so many user are Permabanned , they will automatically mend their ways.
Most of them are probably not smart enough to make that connection.
Mods can see who's banned, but only if they check the profile. A Rank "banned" would be more efficient for everybody.

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