Self-moderation is censorship

[hawkeye]

Anyone who hates censorship should not reply to self-moderated topics regardless of topic.   Let's not encourage this practice.

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[Mike Christ]

This is one of the few features I passionately dislike.

[dank]

Tis true.

[pedrog]

I see no problem with moderation, at least in the securities section, way too much trolls, other threads I just ignore.

[SaltySpitoon]

Yeah, thats kind of the point I think.

"This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. "

It gives you a disclaimer when you enter the thread that if you don't want to be moderated by the OP, don't post. So... mission accomplished?

[pand70]

When i saw the title i thought this was a more... philosophical thread 

[Mike Christ]

Yeah, thats kind of the point I think.

"This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. "

It gives you a disclaimer when you enter the thread that if you don't want to be moderated by the OP, don't post. So... mission accomplished?

It's still lame; if the purpose of a thread, perhaps not everywhere but particularly in politics & society, is to present a problem or happening in the world and discuss it, then it becomes a moot point to make it self-moderated, to delete any dissenting opinions or remove people you dislike; what good is a conversation when only people you agree with may remain?  It's little more than an echo: "Oh you agree with me?  You can stay.  You don't agree with me?  Gtfo."  Any other reason to moderate is rare and very well handled by mods; my only option in the case of self-moderated threads, as has always been the case as I often have uncommon opinions, is to recreate the same thread with the same topic without the self-moderation just to ensure posts can't be unfairly removed.

I see good uses for this in, for example, the marketplace, where discussion isn't the point; in this subforum, at least, it's a nuisance.  Any chance certain boards can be excluded from this feature?

[SaltySpitoon]

It's still lame; if the purpose of a thread, perhaps not everywhere but particularly in politics & society, is to present a problem or happening in the world and discuss it, then it becomes a moot point to make it self-moderated, to delete any dissenting opinions or remove people you dislike; what good is a conversation when only people you agree with may remain?  It's little more than an echo: "Oh you agree with me?  You can stay.  You don't agree with me?  Gtfo."  Any other reason to moderate is rare and very well handled by mods; my only option in the case of self-moderated threads, as has always been the case as I often have uncommon opinions, is to recreate the same thread with the same topic without the self-moderation just to ensure posts can't be unfairly removed.

I see good uses for this in, for example, the marketplace, where discussion isn't the point; in this subforum, at least, it's a nuisance.  Any chance certain boards can be excluded from this feature?

I'm not sure, but thats a pretty good point, perhaps bring that idea to Meta. I'm on the side where I find self moderation incredibly useful in certain senarios, like in the market like you said. I guess I didn't think about the implications of having self moderated threads in sections where the point is to express your individual ideas. I wouldn't figure people would use them here.

Then again, even in this section, I'm sure some people could use self moderation for good. For example, say you made a thread about Public Education, and then some spammers come in and start posting about how Wild Irish Rose was created by the republicans to exterminate the homeless. Would you delete their comments?

[Mike Christ]

Then again, even in this section, I'm sure some people could use self moderation for good. For example, say you made a thread about Public Education, and then some spammers come in and start posting about how Wild Irish Rose was created by the republicans to exterminate the homeless. Would you delete their comments?

I can see this happening, though I've never seen it used in this way.  I believe this scenario falls under the "rare" category; usually when something like this happens, it's offensive and usually involves the Jewish people, but in the off case, a mod has always been able to handle it; the security of a regular thread, in my view, is worth the trade-off for being incapable of handling an offensive poster immediately.

[Elwar]

I like to start self moderated topics, the moderators do not tend to moderate things like going way off topic.

What would Jesus do?

[Mike Christ]

I like to start self moderated topics, the moderators do not tend to moderate things like going way off topic.

What would Jesus do?

Apparently this

[Mike Christ]

read this thread, see how well it is moderated

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331258.0









nb4 50% of posts are from mods!

LOL this might be an argument for self-moderation

[Elwar]

I like to start self moderated topics, the moderators do not tend to moderate things like going way off topic.

What would Jesus do?

Apparently this

So Jesus is just a computer program?

[nasamanBoy]

I say personal moderation. But I also find it funny when certain letters are substituted with *'s or random symbols. I actually prefer it that way, it gets the point across without actually having to type to word. And it gives you a chance to be creative.......

[guybrushthreepwood]

I say personal moderation. But I also find it funny when certain letters are substituted with *'s or random symbols. I actually prefer it that way, it gets the point across without actually having to type to word. And it gives you a chance to be creative.......

I can never understand when people asterisk letters out. I think people should just get creative with their profanity rather than censor themselves.

[nasamanBoy]

 

[zackclark70]

self moderated topics are useful when there is a large amount of spam / off topic posts

it would be better to make it so people can see how many posts have been deleted on that thread


I have made around 10-20 self moderated threads over the last 7 months I think I have only had to delete  4 posts in those threads

[dank]

I like to start self moderated topics, the moderators do not tend to moderate things like going way off topic.

What would Jesus do?

He'd allow everyone to voice their opinion, despite the attacks towards his philosophy he receives.