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December 22, 2013, 04:06:19 AM
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Nodes are so confusing Please help
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=380259.0

Is that what your questions were about in the other thread? I think it's safe to say you have absolutely no ability to make your own alt coin. You should contract with someone to make it for you.

No one wakes up with the ability to make a coin one morning It is a process you decide to go through Even if you already knew how to code before bitcoin came out you still had to learn how to do it and practice

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December 22, 2013, 04:09:06 AM
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Nodes are so confusing Please help
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=380259.0

Is that what your questions were about in the other thread? I think it's safe to say you have absolutely no ability to make your own alt coin. You should contract with someone to make it for you.

No one wakes up with the ability to make a coin one morning It is a process you decide to go through Even if you already knew how to code before bitcoin came out you still had to learn how to do it and practice

Yes, but it belongs in the altcoin sub forum not here.

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December 22, 2013, 04:52:46 AM
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I know I can modify the config file to force outbound connections, and give priority to inbound connections, but how could a group collectively get together to leverage this feature in a manner that could bring more value to the system?  Do I need to spend more time on IRC?
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December 22, 2013, 08:52:50 AM
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The point is to become a cdn for the large blockchain

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December 22, 2013, 10:44:19 AM
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Do it for fun but seriously the network doesn't need it

And if you don't peer correctly, you'll actually download but never contribute

I'm not doing it for fun. How can I know if I am actually making a contribution or not? I have three full nodes now, and the firewalls are open for bitcoin, but on each node I only get 5 or 6 connections at a time.

Here's the usage on one of my nodes

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# bitcoind getpeerinfo|grep subver|sort|uniq -c|sort -n
      1         "subver" : "",
      1         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.7.2/",
      1         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.0/",
      2         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.3/",
     12         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.1/",
     14         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.6/",
     46         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.5/",


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December 22, 2013, 11:05:27 AM
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Outgoing looks good

netstat incoming

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December 22, 2013, 11:51:19 AM
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Outgoing looks good

netstat incoming

Something like this?

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root@yenomeat:~# netstat -ap | grep bitcoind
tcp        0      0 localhost.localdom:8332 *:*                     LISTEN      307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 *:8333                  *:*                     LISTEN      307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           lickthesalt.com:53233   ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:36494          91.84.131.109:8333      ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           www.klmist.com:53816    ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:38923          cust-82-99-109-35.:8333 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           host.poyomi.com:55344   ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           78-21-195-6.acces:55335 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           honeycomb.charlie:43091 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           75-201.105-92.cus:52869 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           mail.blcheck.com:44184  ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:45914          ks3293965.kimsufi.:8333 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           adsl-75-9-58-184.:57978 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           pppoe.178-66-13-2:59136 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           host5-81-39-130.r:59078 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0 495505 yenomeat:46040          broadband-77-37-24:8333 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           62.33.29.52:52552       ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp     1035  11680 yenomeat:8333           202.8.246.74:61009      ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           lns-c10k-ld-01-m-:63534 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           host-128.FKO.213.:59896 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           103.6.159.111:50475     ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           46.39.230.82:16183      ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           78-106-36-142.bro:50329 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           171.213.199.217:62130   ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:46499          dmchess-unlim.vpn.:8333 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:60024          ppp-46-33-255-24.w:8333 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0     61 yenomeat:8333           187.16.56.60:60257      ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           static.99.121.4.4:11835 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:53407          dynamic-vpdn-46-53:8333 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           c-68-34-134-243.h:50427 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           50-73-45-250-utah:33434 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp      837  42310 yenomeat:8333           CPE-124-182-179-4:62178 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp     1978 188240 yenomeat:8333           c-24-5-66-209.hsd:45211 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           125.71.94.138:25450     ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:37257          c-75-73-129-240.hs:8333 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           cpe-67-247-18-224:49938 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp        0      0 yenomeat:8333           75-171-205-58.hlr:58286 ESTABLISHED 307/bitcoind
tcp6       0      0 localhost:8332          [::]:*                  LISTEN      307/bitcoind
tcp6       0      0 [::]:8333               [::]:*                  LISTEN      307/bitcoind
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December 22, 2013, 11:52:21 AM
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Yup those are nice incomings
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December 22, 2013, 12:00:46 PM
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Right, so I am helping the network in a small way?
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December 22, 2013, 12:11:21 PM
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Right, so I am helping the network in a small way?

Yes those around you to get the blockchain

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December 26, 2013, 06:42:41 PM
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Right, so I am helping the network in a small way?

Yes those around you to get the blockchain

and relaying transactions.

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December 26, 2013, 11:24:39 PM
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Right, so I am helping the network in a small way?

Yes those around you to get the blockchain

and relaying transactions.

and verifying tx's.
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December 27, 2013, 08:41:45 AM
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Right, so I am helping the network in a small way?

Yes those around you to get the blockchain

and relaying transactions.

and verifying tx's.

But that doesn't matter unless you're mining.

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December 27, 2013, 11:43:57 AM
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 Smiley Smiley Smiley

Helping is good!

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January 04, 2014, 07:16:23 AM
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i have this program, connectifyme, allows ethernet connection to computer like a router except your laptop would be receiving/sending data through wifi...i confirmed this when trying to buy an ethernet router same deal asic miner

anyone please with knowledge contribute further

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January 04, 2014, 07:29:22 AM
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i have this program, connectifyme, allows ethernet connection to computer like a router except your laptop would be receiving/sending data through wifi...i confirmed this when trying to buy an ethernet router same deal asic miner

anyone please with knowledge contribute further

How do you get from a wifi router to an asic miner in your logic?

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January 04, 2014, 07:36:01 AM
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I am running bitcoind on my Debian personal desktop so I contribute a bit to the operation of the network. I am also running primecoin, protoshares and memorycoin. I dont think there really is a need for much more nodes, but running one never hurts the planet.
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January 04, 2014, 01:21:43 PM
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Verifying transactions absolutely DOES help the network even if you are not mining. Here's a recap of why we need nodes:

To operate, P2P wallets need to connect to P2P nodes.

Then they need to download the block chain, possibly a filtered version of it. And they need to hear about any transactions that didn't confirm yet, but which are valid and sitting in the memory pool. This is vital so someone can send you money, and you can open your wallet and see it immediately.

Storing the block chain, serving/filtering the chain, verifying and relaying transactions, all this takes resources.

When you run a node, you take some of that load onto your own shoulders. The work gets spread out, so as the number of users goes up, we need to keep adding nodes to ensure it stays relatively cheap and easy to do so.

The most important things when running a node are

1) ensuring that you are allowing inbound connections. If you run a node at home or behind a firewall, it's vital you ensure it's set up right so other nodes and wallets can connect to yours.

2) staying up to date with the latest software

Thanks to everyone who is running a node, upgrading it and accepting inbound connections! You are contributing to Bitcoin in a very direct and helpful manner.

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January 04, 2014, 01:31:26 PM
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I think one has to distinguish between nodes running on client and on a cloud server. Running bitcoind on cloud services is probably more risky as virtualization is an additional attack vector. But as these services become very cheap it is very likely that we want to run nodes on servers instead of P2P personal computers, at least for low security applications.

I'm working on a packer.io build script which can be used to deploy bitcoind servers (virtual machine images to be exact). It can be easily adapted to the various providers (or even multi-provider), as this is build into packer.

Recently there was an Digitialocean leakage reported, when you not properly remove droplets (machine images). A few years ago a Linode employee allegedly stole money (haven't investigated the claims but the possibility is always there). For AWS security see: http://awsmedia.s3.amazonaws.com/pdf/AWS_Security_Whitepaper.pdf But as the largest websites are run on the biggest providers, these should get more safe over time. It would be interesting to think about how cloud servers can be run as safely as possible. It allows people to run full nodes, basically on the click of a button. I would argue this is much better than online wallets.
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January 04, 2014, 01:46:01 PM
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I think one has to distinguish between nodes running on client and on a cloud server. Running bitcoind on cloud services is probably more risky as virtualization is an additional attack vector. But as these services become very cheap it is very likely that we want to run nodes on servers instead of P2P personal computers, at least for low security applications.

I'm working on a packer.io build script which can be used to deploy bitcoind servers (virtual machine images to be exact). It can be easily adapted to the various providers (or even multi-provider), as this is build into packer.

Recently there was an Digitialocean leakage reported, when you not properly remove droplets (machine images). A few years ago a Linode employee allegedly stole money (haven't investigated the claims but the possibility is always there). For AWS security see: http://awsmedia.s3.amazonaws.com/pdf/AWS_Security_Whitepaper.pdf But as the largest websites are run on the biggest providers, these should get more safe over time. It would be interesting to think about how cloud servers can be run as safely as possible. It allows people to run full nodes, basically on the click of a button. I would argue this is much better than online wallets.

I highly suggest not storing funds on any online computer

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