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April 29, 2018, 10:30:53 AM |
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Mostly websites recommend you to write your mnemonic phrases or backups but I don't think is a safety habit. For years, what I do is to copy and paste it in microsoft word document. I password protect it and then send it to my own email that is secured with a google 2fa and my phone number. In such a case, I walk with my backup wherever I go, and it will take miracle for anyone to get break into.
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April 29, 2018, 12:00:23 PM |
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There are a lot of ways to securely store your mnemonic phrase, including digitally, password-protecting it, etc., but what I'd like to know is: how do you store it securely so that even if something happens to you (you die, you're in a coma, brain damage...), your family or loved ones can still access your wallet? Do you think of that at all, do/did you educate them about it, put measures in place, or is it if you go, your money goes with you?
Password-protecting files in the cloud with multiple passwords and services in between (email...), 2FA, etc. is fine, but how do your wife or children access it if you're gone?
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May 01, 2018, 12:09:51 PM |
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I do it in a quite creative way. I'm writing some kind of a rap lyrics, where first word of every row is the word from my mnemonic phrase. Of course you can't write all mnemonic phrases in this way, but still there are some that I repeat in my head over and over again just because I love how it sounds.
Example: Fashion, baby look around – Building over with much sound Start of ending. Nevermind. Planet. Spacecraft. Wish of mankind. And so on...
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May 01, 2018, 12:15:09 PM |
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OK, this would sound noobish but I'm interested to know how other people keep the mnemonic phrase generated by the wallet. I do have the wallets secured with a pw and backed up (still not enough to warrant a hardware wallet) but I also have the passphrases handwritten in paper (someone said be wary of printers) and stashed somewhere but I'm wondering if there's a better way to keep them.
I don't know any cryptography but I'm thinking of shuffling the words rather than writing them down in order. Like a 12x12 grid where I'd spread them out in certain patterns and then finished with filler words. Since it's no longer as straight-forward should anyone get their hands on it, I think it would finally be safer to keep digital copies of it. Any suggestions?
The 12-word grid is a great solution. I use the same as in the application for unlocking mobile phone - the exact same scheme. Easy to remember and quite safe.
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May 02, 2018, 10:10:52 AM |
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Generally a paper backup isalways the best and safest option especially if u have significant funds on the wallet. u could make a second wallet with a smaller amount of money on it for trading and keep the memonic for it on a encrypted USB
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May 02, 2018, 04:46:26 PM |
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I would suggest using cryptosteel/billfodl/steely device to store the seed if you have significant amount of crypto.
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May 02, 2018, 08:48:34 PM |
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OK, this would sound noobish but I'm interested to know how other people keep the mnemonic phrase generated by the wallet. I do have the wallets secured with a pw and backed up (still not enough to warrant a hardware wallet) but I also have the passphrases handwritten in paper (someone said be wary of printers) and stashed somewhere but I'm wondering if there's a better way to keep them.
I don't know any cryptography but I'm thinking of shuffling the words rather than writing them down in order. Like a 12x12 grid where I'd spread them out in certain patterns and then finished with filler words. Since it's no longer as straight-forward should anyone get their hands on it, I think it would finally be safer to keep digital copies of it. Any suggestions?
I write it on paper or save it on aes-crypted usb with complex password.
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May 04, 2018, 03:06:32 PM |
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Maybe, you must doing tattoo with that on your hand, for example?))
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May 04, 2018, 07:11:36 PM |
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I keep in secure place away from home also not easy access.
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May 05, 2018, 01:10:09 AM |
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That would be too cumbersome for you to comprehend. I understand the insecurity thought attached to being careful. Easy way out is create like a 4layer folder (You know like a folder inside a folder which is inside another folder and all inside a folder and save ur screenshot of the picture and also text note. Naming them accordingly.
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May 05, 2018, 03:31:06 AM |
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I keep it in my notebook ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) and put it in a cabinet with lock
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May 06, 2018, 03:00:37 PM |
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Guys many people should keep a part of the mnemonic in 2 or 3 different places, this is a bad strategy that has a great chance of causing the loss of your funds, DO NOT DO THAT because if a set of 6 words is discovered, it becomes easier to bruteforce the rest of the sentence.
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May 07, 2018, 11:23:06 AM |
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Guys many people should keep a part of the mnemonic in 2 or 3 different places, this is a bad strategy that has a great chance of causing the loss of your funds, DO NOT DO THAT because if a set of 6 words is discovered, it becomes easier to bruteforce the rest of the sentence. This is an issue only if you have a 12-word seed, if you have 24, it'll take thousands of years to bruteforce 12 of them. Even if you have a 12-word seed, if you encrypt it, it shouldn't be a problem.
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May 07, 2018, 12:53:33 PM |
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Guys many people should keep a part of the mnemonic in 2 or 3 different places, this is a bad strategy that has a great chance of causing the loss of your funds, DO NOT DO THAT because if a set of 6 words is discovered, it becomes easier to bruteforce the rest of the sentence. Seeds are as simple like keeping the fund on one place mate. We all people keep the private key secured right. Same like that you can keep the mnemonic phrases also in a safe place mate. I usually go with the cloud storage like OneDrive or GoogleDrive. I did not loose any fund so far on MEW or bitcoin wallets. Usually seeds are been asking on metamask, electrum and some desktop wallets.
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May 07, 2018, 01:11:41 PM |
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ledger nano and mnemonic phrases (24 caracters) into a secret box at home
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May 07, 2018, 01:50:40 PM |
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Mostly websites recommend you to write your mnemonic phrases or backups but I don't think is a safety habit. For years, what I do is to copy and paste it in microsoft word document. I password protect it and then send it to my own email that is secured with a google 2fa and my phone number. In such a case, I walk with my backup wherever I go, and it will take miracle for anyone to get break into.
I think something so important and sensitive should never be stored in digital form,especially not in e-mail even if it is protected with strong password and 2FA.There is a at least 3 risk in such storage : - E-mail service can go down anytime. - 2FA can be cracked/bypassed. - Password can be hack by malware/keylogger. This is not something that happens to anyone and every day,but should certainly be taken into consideration.For me best way to store seed it to carve words in some durable material (water&fire resistant) and hide them in a safe place.It is necessary to avoid places that will thieves first search,so you should turn on the imagination, in the end everyone is responsible for its assets.
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May 08, 2018, 06:24:30 AM |
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I have two handwritten ones, both hidden in extremely secure places. You should never have a printed one or any digital "shadow" of them.
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May 08, 2018, 10:01:50 AM |
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i remember this phrases only, nothing special. I starting to remember it only without any writing, when my friend lose his bag with notebook and phone.
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May 08, 2018, 03:30:22 PM |
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Its really a worrying thing but only to those people who holds up huge amounts into their own stashes. Therefore we should really remain silent on what we possess. Dont expose or do create awareness publicly because once criminal minds will able to know then your life is at risk.You might able to avoid online hackers but you would really be prone into physical harm. On my side i do store up my mnemonic phrases on a notepad and then save it on a USB into 3 copies or files. Then store it up into places which someone in the house didnt know where i do placed it. Yes keeping silent and remaining to be a low key holder will suit everyone to protect yourself from such incidents like the links that I posted. This is why crypto's are anonymous because it helps us to hide on how much we are holding and that makes you remain low key by not letting someone know it. Don't be too boastful with your holdings -- this kind off topic, I'll leave. Some people cant really resist on saying it out regarding into their own bitcoin holdings which will mold up bad intentions if someone will able to know. Just keep low and be sensible on the things you do as long you do keep yourself away from danger.We should mind basic stuffs and do all sort of things that will increase security if your holdings.
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May 08, 2018, 11:17:35 PM |
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We're the same somehow, I also write my usernames and passwords of my crypto-related accounts in a piece of paper and put it inside my wallet. That wallet is not the wallet I daily used because I'm scared that I will lose it so I just place it in my personal drawer. When it comes to my mnemonic phrases, I just copy and paste it in a word document then store it here in my smartphone. Though sounds careless, I'm still confident that they are safe because I do not permit anyone to touch my personal stuffs especially that wallet and phone. Besides, my drawer has a padlock and my phone is full of locks so I'm not worried at all.
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