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May 04, 2018, 09:47:04 PM
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It is really good to see someone stating the optimised AMD miner for the Raven. 
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May 04, 2018, 11:07:28 PM
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Does this miner support older hawaii (390/290) and fiji (fury/nano) cards?
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May 04, 2018, 11:08:26 PM
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Avermore version 1.3:
  • Significant optimizations to Skein (+80%), Blake, (+65%), and Keccak (+40%), for an overall 3.5-4% increase in hashrate.
  • Dev pool switching is now much less disruptive (no longer reinitializes GPU threads). This should fix an issue where GPUs would occasionally go DEAD upon dev pool switch.
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May 04, 2018, 11:10:21 PM
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Does this miner support older hawaii (390/290) and fiji (fury/nano) cards?

I've had people run Avermore on both Hawaii and Fiji cards successfully, so they should both work. You might need to play around with the worksize (-w, default 64) and xIntensity (-X) a little for best performance. See the Optimizing Hashrate for tips on tweaking these parameters.
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May 05, 2018, 08:08:15 AM
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Please users, what's your hashrate with RX 570 and ETH bios (usually 1150 core 2050-2150 mem) ? Thanks
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May 05, 2018, 08:12:34 AM
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Please users, what's your hashrate with RX 570 and ETH bios (usually 1150 core 2050-2150 mem) ? Thanks

Go with a higher clock and keep memory to stock
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May 05, 2018, 09:14:24 AM
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Thanks, but that's not my question, i'd like to know the hashrate of RX 570 with an ETH bios.
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May 05, 2018, 09:24:41 AM
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Thanks, but that's not my question, i'd like to know the hashrate of RX 570 with an ETH bios.

6-8 mh/s
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May 05, 2018, 10:20:32 AM
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Thanks
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May 08, 2018, 02:29:44 AM
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What hash range are people seeing with RX580?  I really do not see 7 or 8 for any length of time.   

At stock settings of core and mem, -5 power level, 256 difficulty, no -g option (see below), I'm seeing 6.0 to 7.1. 
I'm going to let it run overnight at difficulty 320 to see where that lands.


Also, with version 1.3, -g 2 does not work for me with my 11 cards when I use the -d option with 6 cards or less.  SGMiner crashes while it's building the bin file.  The -g option did work with 1.2 but I didn't really see an improvement in hash rate.  I'm only running a celeron could that be an issue?

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May 09, 2018, 07:37:40 AM
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Avermore version 1.4:
  • Optimizations to whirlpool (+65%), bmw (+50%), and echo (+3%) kernels for an overall 6% speedup in x16
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May 09, 2018, 09:26:10 AM
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Thanks, but that's not my question, i'd like to know the hashrate of RX 570 with an ETH bios.

6-8 mh/s
thats like the speed of a 1060 for comparison
1070s get 11mhs and 1070ti like 15

these amd miners need a fully rebuilt and optimized kernel not just a copy paste

you amd miners paying a fee to mine at the same speed as a 1060 need to stop and got mine xmr
 and buy raven if you have to lol
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May 09, 2018, 07:57:47 PM
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Thanks, but that's not my question, i'd like to know the hashrate of RX 570 with an ETH bios.

6-8 mh/s
thats like the speed of a 1060 for comparison
1070s get 11mhs and 1070ti like 15

these amd miners need a fully rebuilt and optimized kernel not just a copy paste

you amd miners paying a fee to mine at the same speed as a 1060 need to stop and got mine xmr
 and buy raven if you have to lol

An Rx 570 is comparable to a GTX 1060 as a lower end/mainstream gaming video card. A GTX 1070 is a whole market level higher, both for gaming and mining.
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May 09, 2018, 08:16:26 PM
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Thanks, but that's not my question, i'd like to know the hashrate of RX 570 with an ETH bios.

6-8 mh/s
thats like the speed of a 1060 for comparison
1070s get 11mhs and 1070ti like 15

these amd miners need a fully rebuilt and optimized kernel not just a copy paste

you amd miners paying a fee to mine at the same speed as a 1060 need to stop and got mine xmr
 and buy raven if you have to lol

An Rx 570 is comparable to a GTX 1060 as a lower end/mainstream gaming video card. A GTX 1070 is a whole market level higher, both for gaming and mining.

heck no, not on pricing and the performacr on other algos, and what about the 8gb 580s 7 to 8 mhs on raven
is total trash when it can get 32 mhs eth , 950 on xmr

vs 24 max and 500 max for the 1060 6gb card which doesn’t eveb have and 8gb variant.

the 1070 might be higer end but there is a reason 570 and 580s cost $100 more (8gb) than the 1060s.

32 cores vs 36 cores for the 570 580 comparison is not much of a difference.  My 570s nitros havecthe same memory as the 580s and within 1% of the same hash rates given the same clocks or memory straps

face it these coppied x16 kernels are trash , better to mine eth or xmr for now with kernels that were designed for Opencl
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May 09, 2018, 08:30:56 PM
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Thanks, but that's not my question, i'd like to know the hashrate of RX 570 with an ETH bios.

6-8 mh/s
thats like the speed of a 1060 for comparison
1070s get 11mhs and 1070ti like 15

these amd miners need a fully rebuilt and optimized kernel not just a copy paste

you amd miners paying a fee to mine at the same speed as a 1060 need to stop and got mine xmr
 and buy raven if you have to lol

An Rx 570 is comparable to a GTX 1060 as a lower end/mainstream gaming video card. A GTX 1070 is a whole market level higher, both for gaming and mining.

How much is a 1070 ? A RX 570 is less than 300€. GTX 1070 is minimum 150€ (conservative figure) more expensive.
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May 09, 2018, 09:18:03 PM
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Thanks, but that's not my question, i'd like to know the hashrate of RX 570 with an ETH bios.

6-8 mh/s
thats like the speed of a 1060 for comparison
1070s get 11mhs and 1070ti like 15

these amd miners need a fully rebuilt and optimized kernel not just a copy paste

you amd miners paying a fee to mine at the same speed as a 1060 need to stop and got mine xmr
 and buy raven if you have to lol

An Rx 570 is comparable to a GTX 1060 as a lower end/mainstream gaming video card. A GTX 1070 is a whole market level higher, both for gaming and mining.


heck no, not on pricing and the performacr on other algos, and what about the 8gb 580s 7 to 8 mhs on raven
is total trash when it can get 32 mhs eth , 950 on xmr

vs 24 max and 500 max for the 1060 6gb card which doesn’t eveb have and 8gb variant.

the 1070 might be higer end but there is a reason 570 and 580s cost $100 more (8gb) than the 1060s.

32 cores vs 36 cores for the 570 580 comparison is not much of a difference.  My 570s nitros havecthe same memory as the 580s and within 1% of the same hash rates given the same clocks or memory straps

face it these coppied x16 kernels are trash , better to mine eth or xmr for now with kernels that were designed for Opencl

The cheapest 6 GB GTX 1060s on newegg are about the same price as the cheapest 4GB RX 580s and about $25 less then the 8Gb RX 480 --- a difference, but not $100 at this point in time.  The GTX 1070 is scarce even at $500 so it's pointless to be comparing it to a RX 580 let alone a Rx 570 right now.

I agree with you that the AMD RX series does "better" on Ethhash, I disagree with comparing video cards from completely different price segments.  Anyways, we aren't mining Ethhash, Cryptonight7, or X16r on our remaining AMD rigs now as there are more profitable options for daily gains.
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May 09, 2018, 09:21:11 PM
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Thanks, but that's not my question, i'd like to know the hashrate of RX 570 with an ETH bios.

6-8 mh/s
thats like the speed of a 1060 for comparison
1070s get 11mhs and 1070ti like 15

these amd miners need a fully rebuilt and optimized kernel not just a copy paste

you amd miners paying a fee to mine at the same speed as a 1060 need to stop and got mine xmr
 and buy raven if you have to lol

An Rx 570 is comparable to a GTX 1060 as a lower end/mainstream gaming video card. A GTX 1070 is a whole market level higher, both for gaming and mining.

heck no, not on pricing and the performacr on other algos, and what about the 8gb 580s 7 to 8 mhs on raven
is total trash when it can get 32 mhs eth , 950 on xmr

vs 24 max and 500 max for the 1060 6gb card which doesn’t eveb have and 8gb variant.

the 1070 might be higer end but there is a reason 570 and 580s cost $100 more (8gb) than the 1060s.

32 cores vs 36 cores for the 570 580 comparison is not much of a difference.  My 570s nitros havecthe same memory as the 580s and within 1% of the same hash rates given the same clocks or memory straps

face it these coppied x16 kernels are trash , better to mine eth or xmr for now with kernels that were designed for Opencl

This is somewhat of an unfair comparison. Nvidia x16r CUDA miners have had years of work put into them in optimizing their individual kernels, while sgminer has been more or less abandoned for the past few years. So, I'm basically starting from scratch in terms of optimizations for AMD. There's a lot of room to cover, since there are 16 different algorithms that need to be optimized, and simply optimizing one of them does not affect the average that much.

The more optimistic way to look at this is that there's a lot more room for improvement for better x16r performance on AMD cards. I've improved the hashrate by around 20% from the next best x16 miner, and 10% from version 1.0 to 1.4. Even with the current performance of Avermore, Raven is one of the most profitable coins to mine on WhatToMine right now for AMD cards. Profitability will go up as the kernels get more optimized.

If you don't like the miner, no one's forcing you to use it. But I would really appreciate it if you didn't insult / dismiss the dozens of hours of work I have put into making x16r and x16s mining better for AMD miners.
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May 09, 2018, 09:51:55 PM
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Thanks, but that's not my question, i'd like to know the hashrate of RX 570 with an ETH bios.

6-8 mh/s
thats like the speed of a 1060 for comparison
1070s get 11mhs and 1070ti like 15

these amd miners need a fully rebuilt and optimized kernel not just a copy paste

you amd miners paying a fee to mine at the same speed as a 1060 need to stop and got mine xmr
 and buy raven if you have to lol

An Rx 570 is comparable to a GTX 1060 as a lower end/mainstream gaming video card. A GTX 1070 is a whole market level higher, both for gaming and mining.


heck no, not on pricing and the performacr on other algos, and what about the 8gb 580s 7 to 8 mhs on raven
is total trash when it can get 32 mhs eth , 950 on xmr

vs 24 max and 500 max for the 1060 6gb card which doesn’t eveb have and 8gb variant.

the 1070 might be higer end but there is a reason 570 and 580s cost $100 more (8gb) than the 1060s.

32 cores vs 36 cores for the 570 580 comparison is not much of a difference.  My 570s nitros havecthe same memory as the 580s and within 1% of the same hash rates given the same clocks or memory straps

face it these coppied x16 kernels are trash , better to mine eth or xmr for now with kernels that were designed for Opencl

The cheapest 6 GB GTX 1060s on newegg are about the same price as the cheapest 4GB RX 580s and about $25 less then the 8Gb RX 480 --- a difference, but not $100 at this point in time.  The GTX 1070 is scarce even at $500 so it's pointless to be comparing it to a RX 580 let alone a Rx 570 right now.

I agree with you that the AMD RX series does "better" on Ethhash, I disagree with comparing video cards from completely different price segments.  Anyways, we aren't mining Ethhash, Cryptonight7, or X16r on our remaining AMD rigs now as there are more profitable options for daily gains.
thats all Im saying, with the current state of 16x mining its pointless to mine x16 vs other opencl options since the kernels are optimized.  I get the op is trying to fix this but charging a fee for software that is not even fully developed
seems scammy.

Why dont u optmize the kernals and provide performance within 80 % at least of a 1070 or 100% on par with a 1060 before charging a 2% fee
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May 09, 2018, 11:07:04 PM
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Does this miner support older hawaii (390/290) and fiji (fury/nano) cards?
it does but it seems now fiji improved slighly with the latest
I wonder if Brian you could optimize for GCN 2(Hawaii) and GCN3(Fiji) on Xevan?
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May 09, 2018, 11:59:39 PM
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Have some strange thing going on where every time I boot up the miner I have to delete the .bin file, otherwise it does the "stopped working" windows things.
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