Yifu now working with "famed banking family" to help government track addresses

[Carlton Banks]

Seems Yifu is a sellout after that ASIC mess he did. Okay more like a traitor to work with bankers (paper money).

Maybe now we know the origination of those threats to his life that he was famously making a few months ago.

Maybe another alternative is to create a rival blacklist? Hear me out. We can have a traitors blacklist! Yifu's addresses need identifying first, obviously (shouldn't be too difficult for us previous Avalon customers to combine our knowledge). If there was a simple way for miners to blacklist addresses from block inclusion (bitcoin.conf runtime flag + public key parameter?), I'd gladly add any Project Avalon company owned address to my p2pool node. Deprioritising transactions with public keys that have been used already has been mentioned elsewhere.

Individuals miners must run more than 50% of the network, this really is in our hands. So if we though thought our mined coins would be blacklisted if we didn't provide identities to our pool, I wonder which way people would jump? I'm gonna be honest, you've largely been pretty weak willed: wanting to use the biggest pool, somehow reasoning that being part of the most "successful" pool will help at all towards your ROI or profits. This is desperate reasoning. A blacklist that gets observed may make or break the Bitcoin project as a whole; no-one will give up the fiat system that still has cash for one where cash has been effectively eradicated.

Blacklists are only as pernicious as what they're trying to achieve, why not blacklist the blacklisters? That's a blacklist worth having. If Yifu hasn't already cashed out, I would really love to hit him where it hurts most.

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[Bogart]

He singlehandedly destroyed the community mining projects and caused Bkkcoins, developer of the K16, to disappear without a trace

Uh, not to be defending scumbag sellout Yifu, but can you cite a source for this information?  Specifically the "caused" part.  That's a pretty serious accusation.

Just trying to keep my facts straight.

[DrG]

Sheesh. Was Trendon too busy to join Yifu's company?

May Yifu Guo get testicular cancer with mets to the bone  

[bassclef]

He singlehandedly destroyed the community mining projects and caused Bkkcoins, developer of the K16, to disappear without a trace

Uh, not to be defending scumbag sellout Yifu, but can you cite a source for this information?  Specifically the "caused" part.  That's a pretty serious accusation.

Just trying to keep my facts straight.

He didn't directly cause it, but Chris expressed multiple times that he was becoming disillusioned with the K16 project specifically because of Yifu's actions. I didn't mean to imply he ordered a hit on him or anything.

[Bicknellski]

He singlehandedly destroyed the community mining projects and caused Bkkcoins, developer of the K16, to disappear without a trace

Uh, not to be defending scumbag sellout Yifu, but can you cite a source for this information?  Specifically the "caused" part.  That's a pretty serious accusation.

Just trying to keep my facts straight.

He didn't directly cause it, but Chris expressed multiple times that he was becoming disillusioned with the K16 project specifically because of Yifu's actions. I didn't mean to imply he ordered a hit on him or anything.

Chris has to take responsibility for his own failure whether or not Yifu caused it. I am more worried about Chris' health and safety as opposed to Yifu being the cause of the discord at this point and it would be great to find out definitively he is alive and well.

As for Yifu and this... I welcome him working with bankers given his past performance I can't see his work on this amounting to much more than heartache for the banksters.

[Ozymandias]

what is his forum name here?

Bitsyncom

[bclcjunkie]

he doesn't dare to show up these days because of a f..ck up with those pre-ordered chips, not to mention refunds, trade ins... well we now know where he's been so busy these days...

what is his forum name here?

Bitsyncom

[Xialla]

i dont like this chinese guy

I don't like this guy regardless of his nationality.

yeah, hope that guys never forget behaviour and business practices of this motherfucker.

[RoadStress]

On a side note i just realized that if this will happen then mixing services will spawn like mushrooms after rain and miners will benefit the most of it because there will be a lot more transactions than before. Opinions?

[niothor]

On a side note i just realized that if this will happen then mixing services will spawn like mushrooms after rain and miners will benefit the most of it because there will be a lot more transactions than before. Opinions?

If they go after the coins not the adresses:
You have my opinion here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333586

[klintay]

i dont like this chinese guy

I don't like this guy regardless of his nationality.

He is an American.

well he can go yi-fuck himself!

[VinceSamios]

Someone was always going to do it, may as well be someone the bitcoin community has already lost faith in....

[Carlton Banks]

Another solution is to use the green list like a black list: ask people to supply you with the address they will use to send you funds. If it's green listed, refuse. If they trick you, send the funds back to them, threaten to send it as fees.

If possible, miners should reject transactions to or from greenlist addresses. If not possible, start using p2pool and make it possible. Greenlisting and licencing will be coming to mining anyway. Fuck these people and their greenlist.

Blacklist the greenlist.

[niothor]

Another solution is to use the green list like a black list: ask people to supply you with the address they will use to send you funds. If it's green listed, refuse. If they trick you, send the funds back to them, threaten to send it as fees.

If possible, miners should reject transactions to or from greenlist addresses. If not possible, start using p2pool and make it possible. Greenlisting and licencing will be coming to mining anyway. Fuck these people and their greenlist.

Blacklist the greenlist.

In the meantime , Mike Hearn is speaking about redlist"
"I would like to start a discussion and brainstorming session on the topic of coin tracking/tainting or as I will call it here, "redlisting". Specifically, what I mean is something like this"

This rainbow stuff if giving me a headache.

[AdamKD]

Blacklist all wallets/coins from Avalon / Avalon team?    

[Lincoln6Echo]

May Yifu Guo get testicular cancer with mets to the bone  

+1  This fat rat!!!

[Carlton Banks]

Blacklist all wallets/coins from Avalon / Avalon team?    

I considered that, but it's difficult to prove the owners, you can only make an informed guess. Also, it makes it too personal, much as the Avalon Project would deserve to be blocked from spending their Bitcoin.

Blacklisting the greenlist works better. We can prove these people are trying to destroy the principles of security^1, fungibility and privacy for all Bitcoin users, sigining up and using this "service" is all the proof needed. And we also have no idea as to their real identities, we just have a list of sanitised public keys. We must organise to prevent transactions either from or to these green addresses from being processed by miners. They want to create a plague that infects all non users of their system, we can take their list and use it against them. Instead, they will be the sufferers.

¹This is a genuine concern. The more frequently an address is used, the easier it is for an attacker to compute valid signatures to sign transactions made from that address (knowing the private key is not required). This is one of the reasons it is discouraged to re-use addresses. The more valid signatures in the blockchain that exist made from a single address, the more information the attacker has to work with.

[BBQKorv]

Too bad, soon we will need large scale money laundering in BTC too. 

[Carlton Banks]

Too bad, soon we will need large scale money laundering in BTC too. 

Blacklist the greenlist. I cannot repeat this enough. Do not accept money from them, or send money to them. Do not process their transactions if you mine directly.

[niothor]

Too bad, soon we will need large scale money laundering in BTC too. 

Blacklist the greenlist. I cannot repeat this enough. Do not accept money from them, or send money to them. Do not process their transactions if you mine directly.

Actually in this way , aren't you doing the thing they shouldn't have done and the thing you are against them doing ?