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The rich can pay for the cops, the courts, and the military. Right because you don't use any of that. I forgot about the fact that I get a police escort every time I go to the bank. Oh wait, I don't. If I want any extra security, I have to pay for that. How many rich neighborhoods have the cops there daily making arrests vs. poor neighborhoods? Many of us live in gated communities with a private guard at the gate. We don't need the cops there. How many court appearances are by the poor after raping, robbing or driving around drunk, etc vs. the rich? As for the military, I don't see how any of us benefits from murdering people on the other side of the planet. The only thing we need is a coastguard and a few nukes pointed at anyone thinking of launching theirs at us. We should also include the fact that welfare keeps the masses from rioting/stealing, so the rich, who would be the ones hurt by the rioting and stealing can pay for that too. So, pay money or get assaulted or stolen from? That's called extortion. If I want extra security, I'll pay for it, just like I already do. I agree regarding infrastructure - corporations definitely use a large chunk compared to the average consumer. Like I said, I don't have any employees. My infrastructure consists of a few web servers which I pay for and a computer at home, which I also pay for. Some companies may use a lot of a resources but that doesn't translate to every millionaire being the owner of one of those companies. I can tell you have never spent any time being poor. I assure you, the cops, courts, and military are NOT protecting the interests of the poor or the working class. |
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SgtSpike
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August 05, 2011, 04:34:48 PM |
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The rich can pay for the cops, the courts, and the military. Right because you don't use any of that. I forgot about the fact that I get a police escort every time I go to the bank. Oh wait, I don't. If I want any extra security, I have to pay for that. How many rich neighborhoods have the cops there daily making arrests vs. poor neighborhoods? Many of us live in gated communities with a private guard at the gate. We don't need the cops there. How many court appearances are by the poor after raping, robbing or driving around drunk, etc vs. the rich? As for the military, I don't see how any of us benefits from murdering people on the other side of the planet. The only thing we need is a coastguard and a few nukes pointed at anyone thinking of launching theirs at us. We should also include the fact that welfare keeps the masses from rioting/stealing, so the rich, who would be the ones hurt by the rioting and stealing can pay for that too. So, pay money or get assaulted or stolen from? That's called extortion. If I want extra security, I'll pay for it, just like I already do. I agree regarding infrastructure - corporations definitely use a large chunk compared to the average consumer. Like I said, I don't have any employees. My infrastructure consists of a few web servers which I pay for and a computer at home, which I also pay for. Some companies may use a lot of a resources but that doesn't translate to every millionaire being the owner of one of those companies. I can tell you have never spent any time being poor. I assure you, the cops, courts, and military are NOT protecting the interests of the poor or the working class. And I can assure you, they are. See? I can make statements without anything to back them up too! |
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August 05, 2011, 05:26:37 PM |
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The rich can pay for the cops, the courts, and the military. Right because you don't use any of that. I forgot about the fact that I get a police escort every time I go to the bank. Oh wait, I don't. If I want any extra security, I have to pay for that. How many rich neighborhoods have the cops there daily making arrests vs. poor neighborhoods? Many of us live in gated communities with a private guard at the gate. We don't need the cops there. How many court appearances are by the poor after raping, robbing or driving around drunk, etc vs. the rich? As for the military, I don't see how any of us benefits from murdering people on the other side of the planet. The only thing we need is a coastguard and a few nukes pointed at anyone thinking of launching theirs at us. We should also include the fact that welfare keeps the masses from rioting/stealing, so the rich, who would be the ones hurt by the rioting and stealing can pay for that too. So, pay money or get assaulted or stolen from? That's called extortion. If I want extra security, I'll pay for it, just like I already do. I agree regarding infrastructure - corporations definitely use a large chunk compared to the average consumer. Like I said, I don't have any employees. My infrastructure consists of a few web servers which I pay for and a computer at home, which I also pay for. Some companies may use a lot of a resources but that doesn't translate to every millionaire being the owner of one of those companies. I can tell you have never spent any time being poor. I assure you, the cops, courts, and military are NOT protecting the interests of the poor or the working class. And I can assure you, they are. See? I can make statements without anything to back them up too! Except that you are coming from a position of privilege and have admitted you have no experience being poor. I've been robbed several times, the police did nothing. The fact that the majority of arrests and court appearances are the poor is one more sign that these systems work for the rich, against the poor. Poor criminals go to jail, rich ones pay small fines and go back to committing crimes. |
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SgtSpike
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August 05, 2011, 05:56:26 PM |
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The rich can pay for the cops, the courts, and the military. Right because you don't use any of that. I forgot about the fact that I get a police escort every time I go to the bank. Oh wait, I don't. If I want any extra security, I have to pay for that. How many rich neighborhoods have the cops there daily making arrests vs. poor neighborhoods? Many of us live in gated communities with a private guard at the gate. We don't need the cops there. How many court appearances are by the poor after raping, robbing or driving around drunk, etc vs. the rich? As for the military, I don't see how any of us benefits from murdering people on the other side of the planet. The only thing we need is a coastguard and a few nukes pointed at anyone thinking of launching theirs at us. We should also include the fact that welfare keeps the masses from rioting/stealing, so the rich, who would be the ones hurt by the rioting and stealing can pay for that too. So, pay money or get assaulted or stolen from? That's called extortion. If I want extra security, I'll pay for it, just like I already do. I agree regarding infrastructure - corporations definitely use a large chunk compared to the average consumer. Like I said, I don't have any employees. My infrastructure consists of a few web servers which I pay for and a computer at home, which I also pay for. Some companies may use a lot of a resources but that doesn't translate to every millionaire being the owner of one of those companies. I can tell you have never spent any time being poor. I assure you, the cops, courts, and military are NOT protecting the interests of the poor or the working class. And I can assure you, they are. See? I can make statements without anything to back them up too! Except that you are coming from a position of privilege and have admitted you have no experience being poor. I've been robbed several times, the police did nothing. The fact that the majority of arrests and court appearances are the poor is one more sign that these systems work for the rich, against the poor. Poor criminals go to jail, rich ones pay small fines and go back to committing crimes. I am? I am upside-down on my mortgage. I have student loans that I am trying to pay off. I currently have negative monthly cash flow, despite my efforts to find extra avenues of incomes and cut items from the budget list (it's been a couple of years since I've bought a new article of clothing). Yes, excuse me from coming from the perspective of the privileged. Maybe the reason the poor go to jail more is that they commit more crimes? Probably because they are more desperate, and are just doing whatever it takes to survive. Ever think about that? You have proven nothing so far. |
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NghtRppr
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August 05, 2011, 06:15:30 PM |
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I can tell you have never spent any time being poor. No, I haven't and I'm glad because apparently being poor makes you quite stupid. Actually, it's more likely that being stupid leads to being poor. There's a correlation there at least. Either way, you can assure me all you like but you're wrong. The justice system is being utilized by the poor more often because they have a higher crime rate and there are more of them. So, naturally, they should pay for what they use instead of free-riding off of the rich. |
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netrin
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August 05, 2011, 06:33:27 PM |
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Ah Cheers to the People's Bitcoin Revolution, where the proletariat and bourgeoisie see eye to eye and drink from the same cup.
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lemonginger
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August 06, 2011, 11:32:36 PM |
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I can tell you have never spent any time being poor. No, I haven't and I'm glad because apparently being poor makes you quite stupid. Actually, it's more likely that being stupid leads to being poor. There's a correlation there at least. Either way, you can assure me all you like but you're wrong. The justice system is being utilized by the poor more often because they have a higher crime rate and there are more of them. So, naturally, they should pay for what they use instead of free-riding off of the rich. Actually the biggest predictor of wealth in the United States is whether or not your parents were rich -- it has one of the lowest rates of social mobility and highest rates of inequality of any industrialized country. Furthermore, wealth has huge correlations with education, health, likelihood of being exposed to violence, etc. If you would like the citations, I'll go ahead and pull them out. Your suggestion that the poor pay for the tools of their own oppression would be laughable, if it wasn't so cruel. The "vulgar libertarian" force is strong within you bitcoin4cash http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Carson#.22Vulgar_libertarianism.22 |
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