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May 11, 2014, 08:44:11 AM
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I know I've said it before but I don't think it can be said enough: Let's not make the mistake of trading one master for another.
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May 11, 2014, 01:09:17 PM
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This is not good for bitcoin hopefully it will be straightend out.
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May 11, 2014, 02:08:35 PM
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I always lose my comprehension when good people claim they have to go because there are bad people. Letting the whole thing rule by these "bad people" at the end. Thats not a smart move in my eyes and those leaving people look to me like they are one of the reasons when things go bad afterwards.

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May 29, 2014, 04:04:44 AM
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This is not good for bitcoin hopefully it will be straightend out.

The best thing for bitcoin would be to disband the Bitcoin Foundation. Thanks a lot for posting threads from their closed forum here.
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May 29, 2014, 05:22:38 AM
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IMHO bitcoin foundation is just a foundation.  The real decision power of btc is in the peer-to-peer network of computers hashing out those blocks---the miners.  I mean, even if btc foundation released some software that everyone disagreed with, it'd be up to the miners to receive the update or not.  Am I missing something?
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May 29, 2014, 06:00:01 AM
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I always lose my comprehension when good people claim they have to go because there are bad people. Letting the whole thing rule by these "bad people" at the end. Thats not a smart move in my eyes and those leaving people look to me like they are one of the reasons when things go bad afterwards.

Yes. But what is more important? Bitcoin or the idea that it was built upon? The US Constitution or the ideas that it was written upon? (Forgive the country-centric view point.)

Allow your citizens to burn the flag, or you might as well burn it yourself.
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May 29, 2014, 03:02:40 PM
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I always lose my comprehension when good people claim they have to go because there are bad people. Letting the whole thing rule by these "bad people" at the end. Thats not a smart move in my eyes and those leaving people look to me like they are one of the reasons when things go bad afterwards.

Yes. But what is more important? Bitcoin or the idea that it was built upon? The US Constitution or the ideas that it was written upon? (Forgive the country-centric view point.)

Allow your citizens to burn the flag, or you might as well burn it yourself.

The bitcoin foundation wont vanish until most miners drop their support. And i dont see that coming. So at the end leaving the foundation is like those guys that dont go voting. Its useless to vote in the US because of their voting system but other countries have other systems. If someone isnt voting he often claims he dont want to support the system. But he isnt changing anything with it. Even only 13% voting peoples in the last european parliament vote in slovakia didnt change anything about that the election was valid. Even worse... each non voter means this vote voted 30% winning party, 20% second winning party and so on. So non voters even support the system because they dont vote small parties instead that want to change things.

So no... i dont think that the winning parties will cry about it. They are happy about them in fact.

The same goes for the foundation i think. If one leaves because things go wrong... means the remaining members have more power to make it the bad way.

Only saying. I dont wont to force anybody in when he doesnt feel like it of course. Its only factual not a good move.

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May 29, 2014, 07:58:26 PM
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There is a lot of hate directed at the Bitcoin foundation right now. I joined the foundation so that I could participate in this discussion precisely. (A $25 fee is worth being able to actually have a say).
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May 29, 2014, 08:04:42 PM
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People saying they have no right to represent us are absolutely correct they aren't elected by the general assembly of bitcoiners. However they work as a decent interface from a decentralized form of organization (us) to the centralized form of organization (the governments). As long as they represent the viewpoints of the collective all is well. And if they don't we can pull our support.
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May 29, 2014, 08:11:05 PM
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That being said nothing I have seen has shown Mike Hearn was not pushing for redlisting. Just calling for a discussion of what the official position of the Bitcoin foundation should be.
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May 29, 2014, 08:17:20 PM
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I strongly oppose this being supported by the foundation. I don't think it will solve the problems that its supposed to solve considering there is already a public ledger. But to come to that position without discussing it with the community would be definite grounds to rebel against the bitcoin foundation.
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May 29, 2014, 08:23:37 PM
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 So far i have seen no untoward behaviour. the majority of posters are anti-tainting. And the pros have yet to demonstrate any benefits. But having the discussion is not prohibited and doesn't mean the Bitcoin foundation is evil just because it was discussed.
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July 09, 2018, 05:20:00 PM
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What useful was added into Satoshi's client since the foundation was created?
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