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April 23, 2018, 02:05:43 PM
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As a citizen of a country everyone have to pay taxes to their country,and if you are found for not paying the appropriate taxes most of the governments will cease all the assets of the person and sometime even in jailed for years.So we need to do our work right and then expect others to pay the taxes correct,the changes have to occur in each person for having a good country.

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April 23, 2018, 03:12:05 PM
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It seems to me that the more popular the topic will be how to avoid paying taxes. Why do people voluntarily agree to pay taxes on the use of cryptocurrencies? In order to pay taxes, the government must provide full support to users. We can't see. That's why I don't feel obligated to pay taxes.

It actually has nothing to do with crypto or crypto support. You are expected to pay taxes on any and all income, whether or not it is related to crypto. Most governments aren't taxing crypto specifically, they're taxing all earnings. They don't care where it comes from for as long as it's legal.

But yeah, to answer your question, you're legally obligated to pay proper taxes, and while you certainly can cheat your way out of it, you better make sure you don't get caught as the penalties are going to be heavy.

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April 23, 2018, 03:42:19 PM
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As a citizen of a country everyone have to pay taxes to their country,and if you are found for not paying the appropriate taxes most of the governments will cease all the assets of the person and sometime even in jailed for years.So we need to do our work right and then expect others to pay the taxes correct,the changes have to occur in each person for having a good country.

Paying taxes is paramount for a country's development and enhancements as this mainly provides budget for the said improvements. Regarding with cryptocurrencies, some countries prohibit the utilization of such since its decentralized nature makes it difficult for them to regulate it- thus the imposition of taxes is immaterial. Though in the Philippines, earning bitcoin through mining is under the category of 'other income' making it subject for paying taxes.

It seems to me that the more popular the topic will be how to avoid paying taxes. Why do people voluntarily agree to pay taxes on the use of cryptocurrencies? In order to pay taxes, the government must provide full support to users. We can't see. That's why I don't feel obligated to pay taxes.
I agree with you on this aspect. The problem with the government is that they want to earn revenue but they do not eant to provide any support in this concern. that is why most of the members of the community resent to pay taxes. They do not want to contribute anything towards the revenue of the government because they do not support the bitcoin community.

We can well evaluate our taxation liability, but what we want is in which country do we have to pay taxes and to what extent we are exempted from paying the taxes.


There is no crime when there is no law punishing it. Paying taxes in adherence to cryptocurrency would only make it relevant if such law exists. The reason on why bitcoin's price is volatile revolves around the lack of any government intervention when it comes to regulation and imposition of restrictions. Relatively speaking, some countries resort to the prohibition of it rather than imposing tax on it.

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April 23, 2018, 04:02:41 PM
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It seems to me that the more popular the topic will be how to avoid paying taxes. Why do people voluntarily agree to pay taxes on the use of cryptocurrencies? In order to pay taxes, the government must provide full support to users. We can't see. That's why I don't feel obligated to pay taxes.

Not all countries require you to pay taxes on your crypto trades. Most of them want to have a percentage of your crypto to fiat trades, but crypto to crypto transactions are outside their interest and jurisdiction. Personally, I will not voluntarily disclose my crypto addresses to government institutions and I won't share any information regarding my cryptocurrency transfers. I'm also against taxes in general, but I'm not going to go to war with a bully that is much stronger than me. That's why if you trade for fiat and your country demands taxes it's either pay up or change the country.
My view about tax is really just an obligation which it isnt really should comes to a point on where we do against it since we do know that it do really help a certain countries economy for it to progress.Im a tax payer but would only be deducted to my day stable job.For now cryptocurrency things like exchange coins to fiat doesnt still have any tax being implemented.For some countries you are liable to have deductions but im sure sooner or later government would really have such act.
It is not whether you feel obligated or not, having a tax liability is a obligation itself to your country and to your fellow citizens. It may sound bad depending on how your country manages your fund but even so tax is the lifeblood of a nation and without their main source of income your country might suffer economically speaking. For most countries they are paying a fixed rate when it comes to capital gains tax which means whether you are rich or poor you are still paying the same cut as what the other men is paying, this shows that not all taxes gives burden to the citizen as taxes are not created to give burden in the first place.
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April 23, 2018, 07:15:09 PM
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The majority of our tax money doesn't stay within the state or country itself.

That definitely seems to apply to a lot European countries. It's insane that billions in tax revenue flows right into Brussels, while that capital could have been used in far better ways to improve education, healthcare, infrastructure, etc. I see around me how poverty even in Europe is becoming more of a problem than ever before, where regular education is severely losing the quality and prestige it once had. If you in current times want to actually develop yourself, you need to buy yourself into private colleges/schools, which isn't something each average person is capable of. Regular education is almost at a point where you can learn more yourself at home than wasting time in schools, which is the result of a reluctant government. If you don't invest in education, you are basically wasting the long term future of your country/economy.

That is a cynical way of looking at things, echoing the argument put forward by Brexiters. The money collected by the EU effectively is spent within Europe. The distribution may not exactly be in the same proportion as the way revenues are collected, but it still remains within Europe. Plus the fact that you have a single market greatly enhances trade and thereby the standard of living.
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April 24, 2018, 09:34:26 AM
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Oh, it's really a great source for knowing your tax liability. Saved it. Thanks.
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April 24, 2018, 11:37:06 AM
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It seems to me that the more popular the topic will be how to avoid paying taxes. Why do people voluntarily agree to pay taxes on the use of cryptocurrencies? In order to pay taxes, the government must provide full support to users. We can't see. That's why I don't feel obligated to pay taxes.

Not all countries require you to pay taxes on your crypto trades. Most of them want to have a percentage of your crypto to fiat trades, but crypto to crypto transactions are outside their interest and jurisdiction. Personally, I will not voluntarily disclose my crypto addresses to government institutions and I won't share any information regarding my cryptocurrency transfers. I'm also against taxes in general, but I'm not going to go to war with a bully that is much stronger than me. That's why if you trade for fiat and your country demands taxes it's either pay up or change the country.
My view about tax is really just an obligation which it isnt really should comes to a point on where we do against it since we do know that it do really help a certain countries economy for it to progress.Im a tax payer but would only be deducted to my day stable job.For now cryptocurrency things like exchange coins to fiat doesnt still have any tax being implemented.For some countries you are liable to have deductions but im sure sooner or later government would really have such act.
It is not whether you feel obligated or not, having a tax liability is a obligation itself to your country and to your fellow citizens. It may sound bad depending on how your country manages your fund but even so tax is the lifeblood of a nation and without their main source of income your country might suffer economically speaking. For most countries they are paying a fixed rate when it comes to capital gains tax which means whether you are rich or poor you are still paying the same cut as what the other men is paying, this shows that not all taxes gives burden to the citizen as taxes are not created to give burden in the first place.
As a citizen it is your  moral obligation to pay taxes, if you  pay taxes your government can serve better and you'll be protected against criminality, better infrastructure and better services and environmental protection.

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April 24, 2018, 02:14:24 PM
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It seems to me that the more popular the topic will be how to avoid paying taxes. Why do people voluntarily agree to pay taxes on the use of cryptocurrencies? In order to pay taxes, the government must provide full support to users. We can't see. That's why I don't feel obligated to pay taxes.

Not all countries require you to pay taxes on your crypto trades. Most of them want to have a percentage of your crypto to fiat trades, but crypto to crypto transactions are outside their interest and jurisdiction. Personally, I will not voluntarily disclose my crypto addresses to government institutions and I won't share any information regarding my cryptocurrency transfers. I'm also against taxes in general, but I'm not going to go to war with a bully that is much stronger than me. That's why if you trade for fiat and your country demands taxes it's either pay up or change the country.
My view about tax is really just an obligation which it isnt really should comes to a point on where we do against it since we do know that it do really help a certain countries economy for it to progress.Im a tax payer but would only be deducted to my day stable job.For now cryptocurrency things like exchange coins to fiat doesnt still have any tax being implemented.For some countries you are liable to have deductions but im sure sooner or later government would really have such act.
It is not whether you feel obligated or not, having a tax liability is a obligation itself to your country and to your fellow citizens. It may sound bad depending on how your country manages your fund but even so tax is the lifeblood of a nation and without their main source of income your country might suffer economically speaking. For most countries they are paying a fixed rate when it comes to capital gains tax which means whether you are rich or poor you are still paying the same cut as what the other men is paying, this shows that not all taxes gives burden to the citizen as taxes are not created to give burden in the first place.
Paying taxes is the obedient of the law even how  your government officials  spend your  taxes, but  still you obligation to pay taxes. Even if  government not officially implementing taxes on cryptocurrency if you earn out of cryptocurrency investment you're obligated to pay  taxes as an entrepreneur because in the end if somebody traces your tax evasion you will be finalized.

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April 24, 2018, 06:03:52 PM
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Paying taxes is the obedient of the law even how  your government officials  spend your  taxes, but  still you obligation to pay taxes. Even if  government not officially implementing taxes on cryptocurrency if you earn out of cryptocurrency investment you're obligated to pay  taxes as an entrepreneur because in the end if somebody traces your tax evasion you will be finalized.
Yeah, even any kind of business in the institution we have to obligate pay the tax in order to obey the rules and regulation.
But speaking of paying tax in crypto we are lucky enough here our country because my government has not implemented a law regarding crypto to pay tax. At this moment we much enjoy using crypto here without any deducting tax from our government and hopefully, there are no changes regarding this.
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April 24, 2018, 10:22:33 PM
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As a citizen it is your  moral obligation to pay taxes, if you  pay taxes your government can serve better and you'll be protected against criminality, better infrastructure and better services and environmental protection.

Oh, please, stop with the preaching. Just like the US government was protecting people from alcohol by beating the shit out of them during the prohibition and later they were protecting the society from communism during the cold war. If that was not enough they went on to protect the Vietnamese from communism and the world from those non-existent nukes that Saddam had... all with taxpayers money. Do you need such protection? I sure don't.

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April 24, 2018, 10:30:53 PM
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Knowing your tax liability is good and it helps you to plan on your income. It also makes an individual a responsible citizen. Evading tax payment is a crime.
It is not a crime unless no one knows you are evading but for the sake of fear that you might someday surprise that the authority knocking on your door one day. That's why you are obliged to pay for it if your name was on the list. Anyway, it should be better if we don't evade taxes because taxes are the ones helping our countries to become a better place.
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July 15, 2018, 08:58:32 AM
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For our countries growth it is our moral duty to pay taxes.
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July 15, 2018, 11:18:12 AM
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Hey Folks,

I know this might not be everyone's favorite topic but we've done a podcast episode on knowing your Tax Liability!

You can listen here:

iTunes https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/id1333545783

Website https://www.cryptopulse.co.uk/episode-18/

Whilst it's most applicable for UK listeners, it contains some valuable info. Hopefully, it clears up and questions people have on this topic!

If anyone else has country-specific tax information perhaps you can share it in the comments?




the government is applying taxation to those bitcoin users. There must be a reason because as you said at the source you apply the government starts applying taxes so the government can reduce criminal acts and benefit from bitcoin users, I think that's a very natural thing when it comes to crime.
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