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April 18, 2018, 10:15:54 PM
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hi, guys today i tried to use bitpay wallet to pay a online bitpay invoice because bitpay invoices are no longer able to get paid via a address, only via a  protocol compatible wallets ... but the thing is bitpay wallet charges like 8% fees for any payment which looks to me super retarded... and there's only 8 wallets can pay bitpay invoice!! so guys please help me which one i can use to avoid that high transaction fees!

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BitPay Wallet
Copay Wallet
Mycelium Wallet
Airbitz Wallet
Electrum Wallet
Bitcoin Core Wallet
Bitcoin.com Wallet
BRD Wallet (Bread wallet)
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April 18, 2018, 10:20:06 PM
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Bitcoin Core will let you send fees for cheap.  My last transaction cost me $0.02 to send.  The only downside is that you have to download the entire blockchain.

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April 18, 2018, 10:36:57 PM
Last edit: April 18, 2018, 10:48:32 PM by TryNinja
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Bitcoin Core is a good option. However, if you don't want to download the whole Blockchain (~194 GB), Electrum is by far the best option (fully customizable, has segwit, RBF, custom fees).

Which ones you shouldn't use:

Mycelium is outdated, has no segwit and shady devs;
Bitpay/Copay is shit;
Bitcoin.com is owned by Ver and promotes Bcash;

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April 18, 2018, 10:53:25 PM
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thank you for the replies guys!!

well i think i can't download the whole blockain since my download speed is the worst in the world like 400kb/s lol .. so Electrum ? how much the fees rate are in your opinon because the invoice must be paid within like 15 mins.. so it won't be that high anyway right ?
btw i tried to install electrum but it shows this :  i tried to install it but it shows error the program can't start because api-ms-win-crt-runtime-l1-1-0.dll is missing .. how can i

any help how can i fix that ?
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April 18, 2018, 11:16:10 PM
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Are you running Windows 7 or 8/8.1? Run your Windows Update to make sure your OS is updated.

The fees for next-block confirmations are always changing. However, fees are pretty low right now.
You can use a website like https://coinb.in/#fees to see which fee is recommended (i.e right now they are suggesting a fee of 3 sat/byte).

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April 19, 2018, 02:45:57 AM
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you can't pay bitpay invoice with online wallet anymore my bro Smiley
they online provide a QR code or Open in wallet feature
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April 19, 2018, 03:02:56 AM
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I still prefer using the web wallet. It's safer.

No it's not. Even the best web wallets can't hold a candle over Bitcoin Core and/or Electrum when it comes to security, simply by virtue of letting you solely control your private keys. They aren't that much more convenient either, and they typically don't let you have much freedom with your fees. There's no reason why you would ever want to use a web wallet over a desktop wallet, unless your web wallet is in an exchange, and you trade often.

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April 19, 2018, 06:37:00 AM
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I use Electrum. Can't say anything bad about it.
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April 19, 2018, 09:33:54 AM
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Another vote for Electrum. Online (web) wallets are always less secure than desktop ones. Bitcoin Core is too resource-hungry.
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April 19, 2018, 11:49:25 AM
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Web wallet is good and safe

Which one and why do you think it's safe? It may be enough for small amounts, but for larger ones desktop wallets are better. And for a substantial sum cold storage or hardware wallet is a must.
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April 20, 2018, 05:24:35 AM
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Well in terms of fees, Bitcoin Core would be cheapest.

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April 20, 2018, 06:01:35 AM
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I use Electrum.  It is full featured but with simple interface and is very secured.  You can also do cold storage offline transactions.  Many people on this board recommended. 
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April 20, 2018, 06:40:05 AM
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This crypto wallet comparison chart might help....https://www.blockchains-expert.com/en/crypto-wallet-comparison-chart/
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April 20, 2018, 07:18:46 AM
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