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im open to suggestions.
Make it provably fair.
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November 16, 2013, 04:52:09 AM |
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provability fair, is a scam to make you think you will win more. At bitwin are not betting on a blockhash result, there are lots of random numbers involved , so ill try to think of a better way,
im open to suggestions on how to make the amounts its paying out transparent.
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November 16, 2013, 04:59:34 AM |
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provability fair, is a scam to make you think you will win more
No no no. That is not provably fair stands for. Really, it isn't. It seems you can't look into what it is about, so let me try to simplify it for you: Provably fair guarantees that the results were not manipulated by the operator. And it is only that, you can even lose more under such system as that is not what it guarantees.
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November 16, 2013, 05:19:26 AM |
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This site not provably fair?. I guess this is not after playing many bets. Obvious is obvious. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif)
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November 16, 2013, 06:38:09 AM |
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provability fair, is a scam to make you think you will win more
No no no. That is not provably fair stands for. Really, it isn't. It seems you can't look into what it is about, so let me try to simplify it for you: Provably fair guarantees that the results were not manipulated by the operator. And it is only that, you can even lose more under such system as that is not what it guarantees. This conman is off his rocker earlier he called Just-Dice Douglas basically a scammer. Cant make this shit up ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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November 16, 2013, 06:39:49 AM Last edit: November 16, 2013, 06:52:16 AM by aksplace |
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Provably fair guarantees that the results were not manipulated by the operator. Oh you mean like the current software they have? You know the one that insures the player loses lol ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitcoincasinopro.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F10%2Fbitwin-casino-scam-software.png&t=665&c=Aq7ZGu8d5YTsXA) Worst most exposed gambling website con job ever in bitcoin history
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November 16, 2013, 03:03:47 PM |
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This site definitely has a nice UI and is smooth however it does seem unfair. I played blackjack and it seemed to let me win the first 2 hands then win every hand after which is ok however I had blackjack it checks for its own blackjack and says no blackjack then boom pulls a blackjack anyway? That sounds very fishy and goes along with what above poster says. STAY AWAY
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November 16, 2013, 03:37:47 PM |
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This must be a new trend: "a casino that feels fair", until you realize it is not.
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November 16, 2013, 04:01:59 PM |
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This site definitely has a nice UI and is smooth however it does seem unfair. I played blackjack and it seemed to let me win the first 2 hands then win every hand after which is ok however I had blackjack it checks for its own blackjack and says no blackjack then boom pulls a blackjack anyway? That sounds very fishy and goes along with what above poster says. STAY AWAY
I'm no expert but I would think that's a bug in the software. I would report any bugs you run into to Redcoin, if it is a bug I'm sure it will be addressed quickly and you will also get some free credits for reporting it.
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November 16, 2013, 04:05:49 PM |
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This site definitely has a nice UI and is smooth however it does seem unfair. I played blackjack and it seemed to let me win the first 2 hands then win every hand after which is ok however I had blackjack it checks for its own blackjack and says no blackjack then boom pulls a blackjack anyway? That sounds very fishy and goes along with what above poster says. STAY AWAY
I'm no expert Then at least read the thread.
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November 16, 2013, 04:19:03 PM |
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sergiom thanks if in time ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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November 16, 2013, 10:05:36 PM |
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This site definitely has a nice UI and is smooth however it does seem unfair. I played blackjack and it seemed to let me win the first 2 hands then win every hand after which is ok however I had blackjack it checks for its own blackjack and says no blackjack then boom pulls a blackjack anyway? That sounds very fishy and goes along with what above poster says. STAY AWAY
I'm no expert but I would think that's a bug in the software. I would report any bugs you run into to Redcoin, if it is a bug I'm sure it will be addressed quickly and you will also get some free credits for reporting it. It's not a bug. The owner and the software provider both admin that the casino cheats to make sure the house never runs out of its bankroll.
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November 16, 2013, 10:19:22 PM |
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This site definitely has a nice UI and is smooth however it does seem unfair. I played blackjack and it seemed to let me win the first 2 hands then win every hand after which is ok however I had blackjack it checks for its own blackjack and says no blackjack then boom pulls a blackjack anyway? That sounds very fishy and goes along with what above poster says. STAY AWAY
I'm no expert but I would think that's a bug in the software. I would report any bugs you run into to Redcoin, if it is a bug I'm sure it will be addressed quickly and you will also get some free credits for reporting it. It's not a bug. The owner and the software provider both admit that the casino cheats to make sure the house never runs out of its bankroll. +1 Redcoin and associated scam forum accounts should be tagged as a scammer.
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November 17, 2013, 07:24:43 AM |
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the "house edge" of yours is an irrelevant number. since your casino cannot possibly lose money, it is unfair.If i make a bet on a coin flip for 10 BTC and your casino only has 5 BTC, I cannot win under any circumstance. Your casino has 0% odds, not 98% with the only leeway being that the casino occasionally lets you win when there's already a profit for the casino.
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November 17, 2013, 07:48:30 AM |
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the "house edge" of yours is an irrelevant number. since your casino cannot possibly lose money, it is unfair.If i make a bet on a coin flip for 10 BTC and your casino only has 5 BTC, I cannot win under any circumstance. Your casino has 0% odds, not 98% with the only leeway being that the casino occasionally lets you win when there's already a profit for the casino.
Agree 100%. Casinos are supposed to make money because of the Strong Law of Large Numbers, not because it is rigged. Casinos are still supposed to have some risk, but they can almost always cover it with a high enough bankroll and proper betting limits; what your site does is cheating plain and simple.
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November 17, 2013, 07:52:16 AM |
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the "house edge" of yours is an irrelevant number. since your casino cannot possibly lose money, it is unfair.If i make a bet on a coin flip for 10 BTC and your casino only has 5 BTC, I cannot win under any circumstance. Your casino has 0% odds, not 98% with the only leeway being that the casino occasionally lets you win when there's already a profit for the casino.
Agree 100%. Casinos are supposed to make money because of the Strong Law of Large Numbers, not because it is rigged. Casinos are still supposed to have some risk, but they can almost always cover it with a high enough bankroll and proper betting limits; what your site does is cheating plain and simple. People who deposited will not receive a refund that is one thing I can guarantee.. It's a scam no doubt about it!
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November 18, 2013, 04:25:25 AM |
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Dont take any notice of that conman, he doesnt understand how the games work.
Bitwin paysout 98% always!
And that's the problem. Casinos aren't meant to pay out 98% always, they're meant to pay out 98% in the very long run. Sometimes they run at a loss, sometimes at a profit. Fixing results so that you always run at a profit is cheating, plain and simple.
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November 18, 2013, 04:53:04 AM |
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Dont take any notice of that conman, he doesnt understand how the games work.
Bitwin paysout 98% always!
And that's the problem. Casinos aren't meant to pay out 98% always, they're meant to pay out 98% in the very long run. Sometimes they run at a loss, sometimes at a profit. Fixing results so that you always run at a profit is cheating, plain and simple. He is scamming people , the slot and every game he use make the owner cant lose money and he admit it that the casino wont lose money 98% payout and if the "game" have no big player lose it wont pay no matter how you bet . even in BJ you get 10 times BJ the banker will get 10 Times as well . i dint hit 10 times but a few time .
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November 18, 2013, 01:20:37 PM |
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username: sergiom Waiting credits !!! thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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