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April 20, 2018, 09:38:13 AM
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Hey guys, I have been trading altcoins and getting awsome results.. i'm a day trader, with a good forex background. I was trying to find out a way to get the initial investment.. Take a loan is not a option i guess, because it could increase the pressure in making money which could result in negative results.. I can even prove my skills for people interested in investing but I have never made it. I mean, invest peoples money with slave accounts and all.. Its just what i was thinking about.. What do you guys recomend that i should do to get this initial investment?

Don't trade other people's money! And do not take a loan! You already recognized these two options as "bad" choices which is good.
If I were you I would just take some of my salary and use it for trading, of course only if there's some money left at the end of the month. And if it's not enough, try to look if you can tighten your belt. Make a list of how much you pay for food, what kind of food, clothes, cigarettes, booze or any other things (monthly bills for your smartphone contract, TV channel packages etc). You may be surprised for how much useless or not really needed stuff you pay money. I recognized that I spend a lot of money for useless things and was able to reduce my costs significantly.
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April 20, 2018, 09:42:58 AM
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You can help me creating a good trading strategy for a bot and bot can earn for you Tongue

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April 20, 2018, 10:04:55 AM
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Yes ! Most people is having a great skill and knowledge about trading of cryptocurrencies but most of them have nothing to invest. So my only advice to them is to join airdrop, referral programs and participate in bounty campaigns so that they can make money out of the rewards that they will get through the programs, these rewards can be used for their investments in cryptocurrencies.
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April 20, 2018, 06:21:05 PM
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Hey guys, thanks for all the info!!

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If you are a professional trader then you must have good capital though,its okay you can earn some money though participating from bounties.I heard that some people were earning $2000 per month by participating in the social media bounties so if you have time for that then participate in all the good project bounties then you may have enough investment to start day trading in some month but you need time and effort to make money.
It's great to hear about such thing. In forex, almost all the ways to get money besides trading were about getting referals in pyramidal systems lol

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I think first you need to save some money from your regular earnings and then use that money for trading.
The problem is that my regular earnings do not give me enought money for this, but I will try to save everything that I can

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What did you do all your awesome profits from your forex trading?
When I was in forex, I learned how to trade first.. I did not invest too much. so when I left trading, I decided to move to another job
but I studied a lot about trading tecnics

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As in, it's difficult to believe in, that you can say a good trader
I dont want you to belive in it, I'm just asking for sugestions.. In your position, I would not belive in me too hahah but i can prove what I'm saying, so it is a plus!

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What is the difference between borrowed and someone's invested funds?
I was just thinking about it.. It's pretty hard to deal with money, specially other people money.. but if you invest people money, it might be by your rules.. if you get bank money it will be by the bank rules. I think that the pressure is the same

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Bounty helped me.
it is something that I will surely search about!!

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I entered crypto world not directly trading because there was a first problem, it was financial capital.

Then i tried to found how can i find it. At the end i was introducing with AIRDROP by my friend. Even though in the first i was doubt it but i can deny i'm holding the result from the airdrop.

Then i develop with trading, your capacity problem in trading it's up to you how to value it.

And the solution,
Looking for financial capital on airdrop or bounty campaigns. You will find in this forum.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=238.0
Thanks, I'm going to search about it

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Don't trade other people's money! And do not take a loan! You already recognized these two options as "bad" choices which is good.
Yes, at least for now \o/ I need more exp before starting messing with people's money

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You can help me creating a good trading strategy for a bot and bot can earn for you Tongue
I tried a lot making robots for metatrader in forex hedging channels with martingale and even Machine Learning lol with no success.. I see people selling robots and people buying it which is insanely crazy because why the hell would someone sell a money machine for some hundred bucks lel


The forex market is for big players imo, all the leverage needed for retail traders make the whole thing a nightmare.. 5% a month consistently would be a insanely good amount of money.. that's because I left forex, even doing the best performace it was not enought.. But in cryptos, with small amounts of money (which is alot for me) you can make returns like 100% a month.. I can almost feel exaclty what is happening with the price, because we have in crypto trading what in forex only the hedge funds (and the big players ) have.. also we do not need to laverage our money , it make things waaaay better..

I'm not saying that i'm the best trader in the world \o/ it is not easy to make money as it seems to be.. I'm even afraid of my results because it is too good to be true, but i'm testing everything.. even in falling markets it proved to work pretty well which is insanly craazy.. all the info from the crypto markets make it possible.. I would not be able to make the same performace in forex, there are too many negative points in it.. for now, I will try to help whatever I can and go for those airdrops and bounties.. this info was gold, thanks fellas!

any other info is heavly appreciated!!
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April 20, 2018, 06:36:34 PM
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Hey guys, I have been trading altcoins and getting awsome results.. i'm a day trader, with a good forex background. I was trying to find out a way to get the initial investment.. Take a loan is not a option i guess, because it could increase the pressure in making money which could result in negative results.. I can even prove my skills for people interested in investing but I have never made it. I mean, invest peoples money with slave accounts and all.. Its just what i was thinking about.. What do you guys recomend that i should do to get this initial investment?
successfull trader with ideas of loan as an initial investment? these things are completely contradictive.
but if you are really so - go to bank, take credits, pledge your house/car, borrow from friends. profit!
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April 20, 2018, 07:21:22 PM
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Hey guys, I have been trading altcoins and getting awsome results.. i'm a day trader, with a good forex background. I was trying to find out a way to get the initial investment.. Take a loan is not a option i guess, because it could increase the pressure in making money which could result in negative results.. I can even prove my skills for people interested in investing but I have never made it. I mean, invest peoples money with slave accounts and all.. Its just what i was thinking about.. What do you guys recomend that i should do to get this initial investment?
Your understanding that taking a loan for trading can only put you under pressure and subsequently losing out gives me the impression your claim to be a knowledgeable and experienced trader may not be far from the truth. However you seem not to have realized that the first capital needed in any business isn't money. Ideas are truly the first capital and when you one, it would lead you to where the capital is or can be found, because it would be like a fire in you firing you up.

You don't need to start with people's money either, because of yet another form of pressure, instead give trading a break and throw your weight behind gathering some funds (this forum is already a right place) and then start not minding how little - the knowledge you have, overtime would bring the multiplier effect. Your performance with the little capital will then either attract investors to you or chase them further away.
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April 20, 2018, 08:05:30 PM
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Hey guys, I have been trading altcoins and getting awsome results.. i'm a day trader, with a good forex background. I was trying to find out a way to get the initial investment.. Take a loan is not a option i guess, because it could increase the pressure in making money which could result in negative results.. I can even prove my skills for people interested in investing but I have never made it. I mean, invest peoples money with slave accounts and all.. Its just what i was thinking about.. What do you guys recomend that i should do to get this initial investment?

If you accept that you have a skills to earn from trade, then you should make money from little capital. Now change your mind and develop that skill which you make more money from little capital. It is also easy now i give you my example when i started trading or investment in bitcoin that time i was nothing. But i did prove it that i could make money from little capital and i rely you could also do it.

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April 20, 2018, 08:17:31 PM
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Hey guys, I have been trading altcoins and getting awsome results.. i'm a day trader, with a good forex background. I was trying to find out a way to get the initial investment.. Take a loan is not a option i guess, because it could increase the pressure in making money which could result in negative results.. I can even prove my skills for people interested in investing but I have never made it. I mean, invest peoples money with slave accounts and all.. Its just what i was thinking about.. What do you guys recomend that i should do to get this initial investment?
Your understanding that taking a loan for trading can only put you under pressure and subsequently losing out gives me the impression your claim to be a knowledgeable and experienced trader may not be far from the truth. However you seem not to have realized that the first capital needed in any business isn't money. Ideas are truly the first capital and when you one, it would lead you to where the capital is or can be found, because it would be like a fire in you firing you up.

You don't need to start with people's money either, because of yet another form of pressure, instead give trading a break and throw your weight behind gathering some funds (this forum is already a right place) and then start not minding how little - the knowledge you have, overtime would bring the multiplier effect. Your performance with the little capital will then either attract investors to you or chase them further away.

Wise words.. I appreciate it!
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April 20, 2018, 11:05:57 PM
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any other info is heavly appreciated!!

Do you guarantee that you are good at what you do right? so take the risk, sell something that you do not need in real life and you will not miss it and buy bitcoin or ask your parents for money and buy bitcoin, you will have months to have bitcoin free if you go that way ( bounty... ), better Option is you buy bitcoin, bet on your skill. Now something you should not do is: make loan, do not do this


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April 21, 2018, 02:16:09 AM
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Hey guys, I have been trading altcoins and getting awsome results.. i'm a day trader, with a good forex background. I was trying to find out a way to get the initial investment.. Take a loan is not a option i guess, because it could increase the pressure in making money which could result in negative results.. I can even prove my skills for people interested in investing but I have never made it. I mean, invest peoples money with slave accounts and all.. Its just what i was thinking about.. What do you guys recomend that i should do to get this initial investment?

Selling your stuff or borrowing money without interest  to your relatives is the best way..if you really think you have the skills and potential to earn big  with trading then TAKE THE RISK..

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April 21, 2018, 03:02:05 AM
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Hey guys, I have been trading altcoins and getting awsome results.. i'm a day trader, with a good forex background. I was trying to find out a way to get the initial investment.. Take a loan is not a option i guess, because it could increase the pressure in making money which could result in negative results.. I can even prove my skills for people interested in investing but I have never made it. I mean, invest peoples money with slave accounts and all.. Its just what i was thinking about.. What do you guys recomend that i should do to get this initial investment?
sometimes what we think is not necessarily true, and whether we are really smart to do what we have done now, it is not necessary, it is only for the beginning and we should not be happy and pride ourselves with what we have today, today we get a big profit, not necessarily tomorrow we will get it back, what else for day trader, so I think there is nothing wrong if some of which you currently invest with bitcoin or other altcoin that you think you can make long-term investment.
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April 21, 2018, 03:10:41 AM
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Hey guys, I have been trading altcoins and getting awsome results.. i'm a day trader, with a good forex background. I was trying to find out a way to get the initial investment.. Take a loan is not a option i guess, because it could increase the pressure in making money which could result in negative results.. I can even prove my skills for people interested in investing but I have never made it. I mean, invest peoples money with slave accounts and all.. Its just what i was thinking about.. What do you guys recomend that i should do to get this initial investment?

You better start even with small capital because you said you have the skills so small capital is enough for you to make it big in day trading, don't be too greedy because even if you have the skills but luck doesn't comes you will surely lose. I'm not giving negative vibes to you but let's face the reality here in crypto industry that it's hard to look for big capital just because you have skills. Start with your money and day by day trading and just a matter of time you will surely earn profit and by there you can start increasing your trading range amount.
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April 21, 2018, 04:26:45 AM
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Hey guys, I have been trading altcoins and getting awsome results.. i'm a day trader, with a good forex background. I was trying to find out a way to get the initial investment.. Take a loan is not a option i guess, because it could increase the pressure in making money which could result in negative results.. I can even prove my skills for people interested in investing but I have never made it. I mean, invest peoples money with slave accounts and all.. Its just what i was thinking about.. What do you guys recomend that i should do to get this initial investment?


I am actually unable to invest anything before because I don't have enough capital to use so I tried joining bounty campaigns and airdrops which brought me a lot of opportunities to gain good tokens to hold and through that, I was able to earn something to invest. Skills matter if we don't have much capital.
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April 21, 2018, 04:48:56 AM
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If you got great skill I think it won't be difficult for you to make profit into your capital, and if you are so confident with your skill then you won't be hesitate to make a loan because you can get the profit easily, I think the best thing is to collect the capital slowly by faucets or airdrop or doing bounty or sell your stuff


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April 21, 2018, 11:48:18 AM
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My goal now is 1000$ I will try what was said here.. I'm afraid of scams lol time is money and invest my time in useless things would be horrible.. I will try to find legit things
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April 21, 2018, 12:07:28 PM
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Hey guys, I have been trading altcoins and getting awsome results.. i'm a day trader, with a good forex background. I was trying to find out a way to get the initial investment.. Take a loan is not a option i guess, because it could increase the pressure in making money which could result in negative results.. I can even prove my skills for people interested in investing but I have never made it. I mean, invest peoples money with slave accounts and all.. Its just what i was thinking about.. What do you guys recomend that i should do to get this initial investment?

Just join some bounty campaigns in here if you don't have money for now. With your skills as what you claimed, you would be able to obtain a profit even if you started with a low amount. I, myself is trading as well but I am just starting and learning every day. I did not invest money or invested fiat for my trading capital. I just earn it from bounty campaigns here and when it is enough for me, I just deposited it to an exchange and start trading. I invested my time and energy first to earn my trading capital instead of fiat money and I guess you can do it too.

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April 21, 2018, 12:13:29 PM
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Hey guys, I have been trading altcoins and getting awsome results.. i'm a day trader, with a good forex background. I was trying to find out a way to get the initial investment.. Take a loan is not a option i guess, because it could increase the pressure in making money which could result in negative results.. I can even prove my skills for people interested in investing but I have never made it. I mean, invest peoples money with slave accounts and all.. Its just what i was thinking about.. What do you guys recomend that i should do to get this initial investment?

if you have skills but do not have a trading capital what if you start to save money you have from real life or you try to find a job so you have the capital to trade and apply your skills.

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April 21, 2018, 12:58:06 PM
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Well you can do margin trading if you so much beleive in yourself!
And if you are asking a loan there is another topic for that , trading need a capital if you don't have it better find a way to get it first.


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Try to make money for trading somewhere else. Let it be not the last amount of money yon have. Otherwise, you`ll lose your sleep, trying not to lose your  money.
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Hey guys, I have been trading altcoins and getting awsome results.. i'm a day trader, with a good forex background. I was trying to find out a way to get the initial investment.. Take a loan is not a option i guess, because it could increase the pressure in making money which could result in negative results.. I can even prove my skills for people interested in investing but I have never made it. I mean, invest peoples money with slave accounts and all.. Its just what i was thinking about.. What do you guys recomend that i should do to get this initial investment?

Sir if you are really a good professional say trader then why don't you arrange funds from your friend's circle, parents, Relative and Neighbours who believe you and can lend you at least $1000 to $2000 as a loan and you can give them back once you gain profit from your invested capital. I don't think approaching this forum member and requesting them any kind of amount as the loan will not solve your problems. You better maintain a track list for every trading year so that you can show your track record to those financiers who are interested to do the trading business with you. If you are really talented then you will surely meet success in your life.

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