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November 17, 2013, 02:25:04 AM
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Here's the deal we need to brake the chain between ( Bitcoin and Drugs )

I found out something very interesting last Monday as I was at the brand new bitcoin atm machine
and something seemed very weird to me as I was there for 2 hours talking with some bitcoin fanatics and some of the robocoin operators and owners. So in those 2 hours I saw a total of 8 men who looked very ragged meaning sketchy and disordered.

This made me think hmmm… so I thought to myself where is the biggest drug operation in Vancouver well isn't this non-suprising the street below is where most drug dealers and drug users are.

So I decided lets drive down there and guess who I saw 7/8 men I saw at the bitcoin atm machine where there to

hmmm…..

Now here is the funny part :

When these drug dealers get this dirty cash they can't put it in the bank because its dirty money and the government will be very suspicious so these drug dealers get all there drug money and go and buy bitcoins then the next week they sell those bitcoins and can show the government those recipes.

This needs to stop
I have tried to get friends and family into bitcoin put apparently ( Its the drug currency )


just a story and opinion I wanted to share

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November 17, 2013, 02:29:12 AM
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If you need fight with drugs, ask US gov to burn Afganistan poppy fields with napalm. Why they don't do it?

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November 17, 2013, 02:30:15 AM
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Knife linked to Murders
Internet linked to Child porn
Cars linked to Accident
USD linked to All above ...
Dont play this kind of political game plz , Bitcoin is neutral
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November 17, 2013, 02:30:48 AM
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The drugs connection is a waste of time. Drugs are everywhere and people will always find a way to buy and sell/launder them whether it be USD, Euro, Bitcoin or a Laundromat.

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November 17, 2013, 02:39:00 AM
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I realize all the comments above are true but you must understand lots of people around the world are hesitant to use btc because of drugs being bought using this so maybe if btc had no connection to hackers or drug dealers more people would buy it
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November 17, 2013, 02:45:52 AM
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I realize all the comments above are true but you must understand lots of people around the world are hesitant to use btc because of drugs being bought using this so maybe if btc had no connection to hackers or drug dealers more people would buy it


I guess it is their fault for hesitating and losing out then?

In my opinion, those people if they exist, are not serious about buying bitcoin. It's more of a thought than a serious interest.

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November 17, 2013, 02:49:03 AM
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I realize all the comments above are true but you must understand lots of people around the world are hesitant to use btc because of drugs being bought using this so maybe if btc had no connection to hackers or drug dealers more people would buy it

No. Drugs are not the problem. You should read again:

Knife linked to Murders
Internet linked to Child porn
Cars linked to Accident
USD linked to All above ...
Dont play this kind of political game plz , Bitcoin is neutral

Are people hesitant to use knives? cars? the internet? US dollars?

...so maybe if btc had no connection to...

No.
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November 17, 2013, 02:51:49 AM
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The drugs connection is a waste of time. Drugs are everywhere and people will always find a way to buy and sell/launder them whether it be USD, Euro, Bitcoin or a Laundromat.

exactly.  I think right now there is a negative connotation because of Silk Road, but that'll blow over eventually.  With any currency, there will always be people who can exploit it and try to commit crimes.

From my experience with payments, it always seems that those committing illegal acts are first to adopt to new technologies.  They tend to be a little more knowledgeable (not your crack addicts, but more hacker like people) and are more aware of new emerging trends.

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November 17, 2013, 02:53:14 AM
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Right.... So do you actually have any proof they are involved in the drug trade or do they just fit the stereotype?
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November 17, 2013, 02:53:45 AM
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So OP don't buy knifes, because they linked to murders.

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November 17, 2013, 02:53:58 AM
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Ban clothes, then the criminals can never leave the house!

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November 17, 2013, 02:54:49 AM
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Right.... So do you actually have any proof they are involved in the drug trade or do they just fit the stereotype?

haha forgot about that assumption. Plenty of good people who "look like" they sell or use drugs and then theres plenty of people who don't look it and do haha.

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November 17, 2013, 02:56:43 AM
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The fiat money used to be paid for, are in use to pay for and will be used to pay for a murder. Let's stop use fiat money!?
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November 17, 2013, 02:57:20 AM
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Ban clothes, then the criminals can never leave the house!

Oh c'mon. That wouldn't stop anybody. Get on with the times Tongue
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November 17, 2013, 02:59:09 AM
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Ban clothes, then the criminals can never leave the house!

Oh c'mon. That wouldn't stop anybody. Get on with the times Tongue

Or would it stop... everybody? Would naturists become the only drug dealers? Naturist Bitcoin drug-dealers!  Shocked

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November 17, 2013, 03:02:40 AM
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I can't believe no one is getting my POINT!

FIAT CURRENCY IS ALREADY IN USE!
bitcoin is not solid and not a government used currency and I can guarantee I would have over 250 friends and family into bitcoin if it were not for drugs and hackers using bitcoin


If you think drugs are not a factor in bitcoin then I truly feel bad for not just you but everyone around you
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November 17, 2013, 03:06:59 AM
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So what to do? Implement central authority which will say "this coin is bad and this is good" (like Bitcoin Foundation proposes in internal discussions)?  Grin

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November 17, 2013, 03:07:37 AM
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I believe it is necessary to fight with roots of the problem, not with consequences. The roots are drugs dealers existence. Not the bitcoin existence.
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November 17, 2013, 03:11:33 AM
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I do get your concern. But there is nothing you can do to block people from doing whatever they want with their bitcoins. At least there shouldn't be.

The solution is not in doing something to block bitcoins from being used in drug-related affairs. These people should realise that it happens also with dollars, and knives, and clothes.

It's not that bitcoins should become less drug-related. It's people who should learn to be less stupid and see things in perspective.
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November 17, 2013, 03:12:56 AM
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this is the same problem we are facing with the bitcoin foundation and those 3 guys who want to red/black/white-list coins. will regulating BTC really work? the only way to deal with those guys is to regulate BTC, but im sure most here don't want that.

I do get your concern. But there is nothing you can do to block people from doing whatever they want with their bitcoins. At least there shouldn't be.

The solution is not in doing something to block bitcoins from being used in drug-related affairs. These people should realise that it happens also with dollars, and knives, and clothes.

It's not that bitcoins should become less drug-related. It's people who should learn to be less stupid and see things in perspective.

i get that USD is used for drug transactions.. but the thing is that BTC allows for criminals to have more options of storing their cash.. options that would otherwise not exist. i'm not for regulation of btc btw, but it's the truth.
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