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April 22, 2018, 07:39:34 AM
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shapeshift.io is it safe? I do not know this page. I do not need a verification for such a small exchange. It is not necessary. I will order Trezor because you can pay in BTC. Ledger does not have such an option, right?
Shapeshift.io is pretty safe [1] and they have been around for a long time. You can purchase Ledger using BTC from their official store.



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April 22, 2018, 08:37:03 AM
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So far, I keep everything in ETH. The BTC exchange time is coming. Which wallet to choose online? What is the safest? Please help me:).

I now use www.myetherwallet.com + MetaMask.
my etherwallet is best etherium wallet for now
coinbase is safe bitcoin wallet but i suggest to use electrum wallet for your coins
in past year i used blockchain.info wallet and i lost 3 btc there, after i contact to support they said it was not our fault, i think there where hackers for this online wallet

this is a list of web wallets, but i suggest electrum
https://bitcoin.org/en/wallets/web/
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April 22, 2018, 08:45:31 AM
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my etherwallet is best etherium wallet for now

No it is not, unless combined with hardware wallet or metamask. It's more of an interface nowadays for people rather than a wallet.
coinbase is safe bitcoin wallet but i suggest to use electrum wallet for your coins

Coinbase is nowhere near safe, as a centralized party has the private keys instead of you. Of course it might be safer for people who have no idea of technology.

in past year i used blockchain.info wallet and i lost 3 btc there, after i contact to support they said it was not our fault, i think there where hackers for this online wallet

It is your fault yes, because you did not take good enough care of your security. It's like leaving your wallet on the mall, and then blaming the mall that your wallet got stolen.

Blockchain is alot safer if done right than coinbase because you have the private key, which is i find your reply quite ironic and trashy.

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April 22, 2018, 08:53:52 AM
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I've seen a lot of things about blockchain.info wallet, good and bad, I want to add something:

blockchain.info users are periodicly targeted by quite some phishing. Imho it's something important to think about (for this and other online wallets too). Newbies may think that such wallets are perfect for them. Then a click on the wrong mail and poof, the money's gone. And blockchain.info cannot do anything about it (it's not their fault and you also agreed with their ToS telling that they cannot be held responsible for basically anything).

So, people, give a better thinking on where you leave your money. If the official wallet is to heavy for your taste, there's always Electrum, Mycelium and others. Try to avoid web wallets...

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April 22, 2018, 09:27:14 AM
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in past year i used blockchain.info wallet and i lost 3 btc there, after i contact to support they said it was not our fault, i think there where hackers for this online wallet

It is your fault yes, because you did not take good enough care of your security. It's like leaving your wallet on the mall, and then blaming the mall that your wallet got stolen.

Blockchain is alot safer if done right than coinbase because you have the private key, which is i find your reply quite ironic and trashy.
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i was hacked twice, for second time i choose new pc new email and new windows but unfortunately i get hacked again
im not agree with you, its not just me check here please:

https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/10312/lost-my-btc-or-theyve-been-stolen

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1368687.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2445658.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303726.0

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April 22, 2018, 09:28:08 AM
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I've seen a lot of things about blockchain.info wallet, good and bad, I want to add something:

blockchain.info users are periodicly targeted by quite some phishing. Imho it's something important to think about (for this and other online wallets too). Newbies may think that such wallets are perfect for them. Then a click on the wrong mail and poof, the money's gone. And blockchain.info cannot do anything about it (it's not their fault and you also agreed with their ToS telling that they cannot be held responsible for basically anything).

So, people, give a better thinking on where you leave your money. If the official wallet is to heavy for your taste, there's always Electrum, Mycelium and others. Try to avoid web wallets...
I only see a few benefits of online wallets such as blockchain.info, but I see a lot more downsides. It's probably the least secure way of storing Bitcoin. Yet I would estimate the majority of users actually use it for storing large amounts, because it doesn't require an investment like hardware wallets and is easily and quickly set up.
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April 22, 2018, 09:31:45 AM
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i was hacked twice, for second time i choose new pc new email and new windows but unfortunately i get hacked again
im not agree with you, its not just me check here please:

https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/10312/lost-my-btc-or-theyve-been-stolen

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1368687.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2445658.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303726.0

They were just being careless. Being hacked is your fault, as the wallet source is open and can be readed from here: https://github.com/blockchain

It's your own responsibility to make sure that your computer is safe enough. It's not blockchain's fault if people are careless.

I know it sounds harsh, but it's the truth.

Edit: if you have 2FA and a secure password, you won't get "hacked" if done safely. The problems here are the fact that you have generated keys on windows OS, and are using a browser based wallet.

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April 22, 2018, 10:15:45 AM
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So far, I keep everything in ETH. The BTC exchange time is coming. Which wallet to choose online? What is the safest? Please help me:).

I now use www.myetherwallet.com + MetaMask.
my etherwallet is best etherium wallet for now
coinbase is safe bitcoin wallet but i suggest to use electrum wallet for your coins
in past year i used blockchain.info wallet and i lost 3 btc there, after i contact to support they said it was not our fault, i think there where hackers for this online wallet

this is a list of web wallets, but i suggest electrum
https://bitcoin.org/en/wallets/web/
3 BTC is a lot of money. Why did not you protect yourself? I wrote down this topic to ask for security. I actually used Electrum for a small transaction. A nice application, but definitely not 100% sure.
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April 22, 2018, 10:21:53 AM
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They were just being careless. Being hacked is your fault, as the wallet source is open and can be readed from here: https://github.com/blockchain

It's your own responsibility to make sure that your computer is safe enough. It's not blockchain's fault if people are careless.

I know it sounds harsh, but it's the truth.

Edit: if you have 2FA and a secure password, you won't get "hacked" if done safely. The problems here are the fact that you have generated keys on windows OS, and are using a browser based wallet.
Why would you use blockchain.info locally though? There's better options out there. Blockchain isn't a very well coded wallet and what often happens is people send the wrong fees because of their automatic system which estimates the fees to send. Of course, it can be double checked by the user, but unfortunately with an automated system like that people just assume it's correct.
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April 22, 2018, 10:27:14 AM
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Why would you use blockchain.info locally though? There's better options out there. Blockchain isn't a very well coded wallet and what often happens is people send the wrong fees because of their automatic system which estimates the fees to send. Of course, it can be double checked by the user, but unfortunately with an automated system like that people just assume it's correct.

I personally would not. I was just making a point that the source is open source (however the server software is not) so if you get "hacked", you cannot blame some provider which you agreed to use, and accepted their ToS. You should not blame other people for your mistakes.

Also he said that Coinbase is safe, and right after saying that he got hacked on blockchain.info, which i find to be rather ironic.

I would never advise using a wallet that is so called " Web wallet".

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I personally would not. I was just making a point that the source is open source (however the server software is not) so if you get "hacked", you cannot blame some provider which you agreed to use, and accepted their ToS. You should not blame other people for your mistakes.

Also he said that Coinbase is safe, and right after saying that he got hacked on blockchain.info, which i find to be rather ironic.

I would never advise using a wallet that is so called " Web wallet".
Yeah in terms of being hacked it's almost always the users fault for poor security practice rather than the software being at fault. Unless, it's their fault because their database got hacked then you can't really complain. Although, they would likely be responsible if they a hack did occur.
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April 22, 2018, 11:25:22 AM
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Many online wallets have for bitcoin. Coinbase,Blockchain are some of them. You can register these wallets and collect bitcoins.
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April 22, 2018, 02:52:50 PM
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Online wallet is not a good option to keep your crypto funds but if you really need a solution currently blockchain.info is nearly the best solution. You can keep your private keys so in any case, you can transfer your addresses to another wallet. Any other solutions which doesn't give you the private keys is not secure! Definitely stay away from these kind of wallets / services...
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April 22, 2018, 03:29:15 PM
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Online wallet is not a good option to keep your crypto funds but if you really need a solution currently blockchain.info is nearly the best solution. You can keep your private keys so in any case, you can transfer your addresses to another wallet. Any other solutions which doesn't give you the private keys is not secure! Definitely stay away from these kind of wallets / services...
Yeah,online wallets are not meant for storing our crypto currencies,if you do then you are risking the valuable assets.Never ever store more than 0.01BTC in any online wallets because it is easily hackable,if you have 2 factor authentication then you can save your funds from a hacker but still it is not safe as storing them in a hardware wallets or desktop wallet.

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April 22, 2018, 03:35:13 PM
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Ok, I will not actually risk ta advice and I ordered TREZOR. I understand that it is not complicated to use? I will not risk for LEDGER. The price is the same and it has bugs.
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April 22, 2018, 03:42:48 PM
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Ok, I will not actually risk ta advice and I ordered TREZOR. I understand that it is not complicated to use? I will not risk for LEDGER. The price is the same and it has bugs.

Should not be too complicated to setup and use, as the seed for the wallet will be safely generated on the trezor screen.

However like said before, every software and code has bugs so this is not only a ledger wallet problem.

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3 BTC is a lot of money. Why did not you protect yourself? I wrote down this topic to ask for security. I actually used Electrum for a small transaction. A nice application, but definitely not 100% sure.
i didnt know but i cant do anything right now
search on this forum for electrum its very useful software and better than any software and web wallets
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April 22, 2018, 05:05:36 PM
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Ok, I will not actually risk ta advice and I ordered TREZOR. I understand that it is not complicated to use? I will not risk for LEDGER. The price is the same and it has bugs.

The Nano s from ledger does not have any bugs.
The previously found 'vulnerabilities' did not lead to any theft.
Each software has bugs. It is just a question wether they have been found yet.

If you think trezor is 100% secure i have to disappoint you. You can't have 100% security. 
The goal should be to minimize the risk as much as possible through appropriate measurements and common sense.

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April 22, 2018, 05:20:57 PM
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I can recommend our online wallet https://octobit.io
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Ok, I will not actually risk ta advice and I ordered TREZOR. I understand that it is not complicated to use? I will not risk for LEDGER. The price is the same and it has bugs.

The Nano s from ledger does not have any bugs.
The previously found 'vulnerabilities' did not lead to any theft.
Each software has bugs. It is just a question wether they have been found yet.

If you think trezor is 100% secure i have to disappoint you. You can't have 100% security. 
The goal should be to minimize the risk as much as possible through appropriate measurements and common sense.
I agree but it is definitely safer than wallets online or the application. Trezor has the big advantage of confirming the trolls by clicking the mechanical button.
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