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November 17, 2013, 02:21:00 PM
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I thought about this question when it comes to Anarchy.

How long would it take for majority to adapt to anarchy, that is start to follow rational non-aggresive principles. And majority of the destructive forces to be forced out of market by consumer choise?

That is if we were to start now?

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November 17, 2013, 05:24:31 PM
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Depends how fast people spread the word.

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November 17, 2013, 05:39:35 PM
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That is if we were to start now?

You don't "start" anarchy. You only start revolutions. You live anarchy.

If you suddenly tear down the current system of rules, you might just get a temporary bout of the kind of Anarchy people are programmed to fear.

You develop a workable anarchy by learning, step by step, to be more and more free and independent from the current system until the point when you realize that it has actually become obsolete for you. Meanwhile having full control over your money is a wonderful start Wink

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November 17, 2013, 06:07:54 PM
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ErisDiscordia is right, to be honest, the main issue people have ever had throughout history is how to stop others from controlling the flow of money and how it is traded etc. monarchs have been struggling with the idea for years and so have religions, it's only until now that I've seen a realistic method like Bitcoin capable of stopping it all.
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November 17, 2013, 06:14:47 PM
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As long as it takes until people learn how to look after themselves.

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November 17, 2013, 06:17:20 PM
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Anarchy would never ever ever work.  Human nature is not anarchical but hierarchical.   
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November 17, 2013, 06:18:45 PM
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Anarchy would never ever ever work.  Human nature is not anarchical but hierarchical.   

Ahh, the human nature fallacy...gotta love it Grin

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November 17, 2013, 06:21:45 PM
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About 2000 years, that's how long it took to go from tribal feudalism to representative democracy.
People living back then might call our living conditions anarchy, if they knew what the word meant.
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November 17, 2013, 06:39:57 PM
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Anarchy would never ever ever work.  Human nature is not anarchical but hierarchical.   
What's natural about tyranny?

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November 17, 2013, 07:01:12 PM
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Anarchy would never ever ever work.  Human nature is not anarchical but hierarchical.  

Ahh, the human nature fallacy...gotta love it Grin

I follow Darwinism (aka Science) - so, logically, humans are a kind of animal and our behaviour is a consequence of genetics.
I do not believe there is anything special about hierarchies, except as a description of one type of animal's social organization.
But the test is survival, and it seems that people survive based on their ability to raise children, rather than the ideology they happen to prescribe to at arbitrary points in history (unless that ideology limits/improves their ability to pass on their genes)
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November 17, 2013, 07:12:05 PM
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Anarchy would never ever ever work.  Human nature is not anarchical but hierarchical.   

Ahh, the human nature fallacy...gotta love it Grin

I follow Darwinism (aka Science) - so, logically, humans are a kind of animal and our behaviour is a consequence of genetics.
I do not believe there is anything special about hierarchies, except as a description of one type of animal's social organization.
But the test is survival, and it seems that people survive based on their ability to raise children, rather than the ideology they happen to prescribe to at arbitrary point in history (unless that ideology limits/improves their ability to pass on their genes)

I would have to agree with you there; the animals which survive are those most adaptable, and humans aren't a whole lot if not the ultimate adapting creature.  I just don't believe we should identify something humans are doing, e.g. killing for gain, as something within human nature, while something else humans are doing, e.g. acting out of free will, as something completely unnatural; it would seem to me, if humans are doing it, it is within the nature of humans to do so.

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November 17, 2013, 10:51:04 PM
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Society can't even get along with Laws, it would be worse without them.



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November 17, 2013, 10:54:11 PM
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Anarchy would never ever ever work.  Human nature is not anarchical but hierarchical.   
What's natural about tyranny?

You mean like whats natural in predator animals killing others for fun?
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November 17, 2013, 11:30:29 PM
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Anarchy would never ever ever work.  Human nature is not anarchical but hierarchical.   
What's natural about tyranny?

You mean like whats natural in predator animals killing others for fun?


that is completly natural as we can see. Only human behavior is not natural.

Nature is perfect and it has no errors. ONly error is human

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November 17, 2013, 11:40:14 PM
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Animals don't kill each other for fun, they kill each other for food.

Humans kill each other for fun and for materialistic gain, for the destruction of our home.  Having an elite group of sociopaths is a man made system.

Society can't even get along with Laws, it would be worse without them.
We would still have the law of nature, the law of attraction, karma, what ever you would like to call it.  Do you really need the government to tell you not to kill people or can you fathom that piece of moral code by yourself?

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November 17, 2013, 11:47:10 PM
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Do you really need the government to tell you not to kill people or can you fathom that piece of moral code by yourself?

Do you really need the forum policemen to tell you not to steal from people or can you fathom that piece of moral code by yourself?

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November 17, 2013, 11:55:00 PM
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Society can't even get along with Laws, it would be worse without them.

Anarchism is not without laws; it's the only form of governance where everyone has to follow them, in fact.

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November 17, 2013, 11:56:49 PM
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Do you really need the government to tell you not to kill people or can you fathom that piece of moral code by yourself?

Do you really need the forum policemen to tell you not to steal from people or can you fathom that piece of moral code by yourself?
Police are corrupt, you are corrupt, I guess the shoe fits.

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November 18, 2013, 12:03:17 AM
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Do you really need the government to tell you not to kill people or can you fathom that piece of moral code by yourself?

Do you really need the forum policemen to tell you not to steal from people or can you fathom that piece of moral code by yourself?
Police are corrupt, you are corrupt, I guess the shoe fits.

Well, I do share the majority of the values a police officer would, so thank you.   Smiley

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November 18, 2013, 09:36:08 PM
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Anarchy would never ever ever work.  Human nature is not anarchical but hierarchical.   

That's fine if they pick their hierarchies.

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