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April 22, 2018, 06:29:07 PM
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Here is just one of the YouTube spamming tutorials.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQH7B5lWFSE

The suggested post is the usual rubbish that we need to eradicate, and the YouTube viewer replying doesn't even appear to be competent enough to work through the signup process.

I believe that we need a startup board, so that the mods can evaluate new members. Without that it will not be possible to control the flood of several thousand hopeful spammers every day.

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@theymos  [mob/mod-rule].

What does that mean - have I broken some rule with this thread?

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April 22, 2018, 07:00:23 PM
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@theymos  [mob/mod-rule].

What does that mean - have I broken some rule with this thread?
I don't think so... there's nothing special with your post according to my understanding.

What happens if we only allow the newbies to post in specific threads, which threads won't count in the campaigns, so there will be no use to spam the forum, because they won't earn any money with their first posts?
After, they have received their 3rd merit for quality posts, they will be able to post in the whole forum.
Any cons?

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April 22, 2018, 07:05:51 PM
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Here is just one of the YouTube spamming tutorials.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQH7B5lWFSE

The suggested post is the usual rubbish that we need to eradicate, and the YouTube viewer replying doesn't even appear to be competent enough to work through the signup process.

I believe that we need a startup board, so that the mods can evaluate new members. Without that it will not be possible to control the flood of several thousand hopeful spammers every day.

The numbers make it nigh on impossible. With a million accounts signing up in the last year, the mods will have their hands full if they start evaluating all members. Newbie jail isn't bad, but asking moderators to evaluate all accounts would be asking too much.
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April 22, 2018, 07:15:15 PM
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Here is just one of the YouTube spamming tutorials.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQH7B5lWFSE
Now that's 4 minutes of my life wasted! Then again, if you need a video tutorial to make an account and start spamming, you shouldn't be here at all. I know many spammers are uneducated, but didn't expect something this bad to have 2000+ views.

What happens if we only allow the newbies to post in specific threads
The forum used to have a Newbie jail, but it was closed. With 464 registrations  per day, it's a lot of work to review posts.

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After, they have received their 3rd merit for quality posts, they will be able to post in the whole forum.
This could actually work, assuming there are enough volunteers to go through countless numbers of shitposts in the Newbie Zone, to find the few posts that deserve merit.

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The numbers make it nigh on impossible. With a million accounts signing up in the last year, the mods will have their hands full if they start evaluating all members. Newbie jail isn't bad, but asking moderators to evaluate all accounts would be asking too much.

I suspect most of them wouldn't post, but having read Bitarts post, I think it could be combined with a merit count. You need to earn at least 5 merits ( say) to be able to post on other boards. That would allow the community to choose new members to allow onto the main boards.

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April 22, 2018, 07:32:51 PM
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Ah, that video was just a basic tutorial for idiots.  I was expecting a tutorial on how to game the system, but this was obviously made by some illiterate teenager in some country far, far away. 

It was the next video in the playlist that had me more concerned, because it was about how to join signature campaigns.  The guy did a great job explaining it, I'll give him that, but the mere existence of it makes my skin crawl.  Part of what he says:  "This is your opportunity to get rich.  If you're a teenager with no money or no job, this is a way to start.  I mean all you have to do is give a little of your time and to be engaged.  And then you earn bitcoin guys, it's that simple."

Added LOL was the comments on the video.  Exactly the comments we see on bitcointalk.

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The numbers make it nigh on impossible. With a million accounts signing up in the last year, the mods will have their hands full if they start evaluating all members. Newbie jail isn't bad, but asking moderators to evaluate all accounts would be asking too much.

I suspect most of them wouldn't post, but having read Bitarts post, I think it could be combined with a merit count. You need to earn at least 5 merits ( say) to be able to post on other boards. That would allow the community to choose new members to allow onto the main boards.
And if the spammer newbies realize that they have to create quality posts to become normal members, they will stop registering thousands of users weekly, so after a little time, there will be less posts in the 'Newbie Jail' so there will be enough time and people to merit the posts which deserves it. Until then, maybe we can lose a few really promising newbie, but we can stop this spamming madness...

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April 22, 2018, 09:28:17 PM
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Just look at the comments on the link The Pharmacist referenced. Comments like "How do I rank up on Bitcointalk" and these are the type of users who are the problem right now. They don't care about Bitcointalk, Bitcoin or even cryptocurrencies. They won't even look at the rules, yet they are earning a living by spamming the forum. Like if you are getting paid a decent rate at your job that normally motivates you to perform better at it but, it just seems to have the opposite effect here.

I didn't realize that people have gone so far to make tutorials on youtube though. I've seen a few steemit articles but, judging by the views on that youtube video it seems like this is a pretty in demand topic. 

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April 23, 2018, 12:58:45 AM
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Ah, that video was just a basic tutorial for idiots.  I was expecting a tutorial on how to game the system, but this was obviously made by some illiterate teenager in some country far, far away. 

It was the next video in the playlist that had me more concerned, because it was about how to join signature campaigns.  The guy did a great job explaining it, I'll give him that, but the mere existence of it makes my skin crawl.  Part of what he says:  "This is your opportunity to get rich.  If you're a teenager with no money or no job, this is a way to start.  I mean all you have to do is give a little of your time and to be engaged.  And then you earn bitcoin guys, it's that simple."

Added LOL was the comments on the video.  Exactly the comments we see on bitcointalk.
This is not the only video that shows how to earn money on bitcointalk. Here's another one : https://youtube.com/watch?v=v5-SaZWm88o
I happened to mention this like 2-3 months ago here, and then the thread got dissolved into a classic let's spam here thread.
This doesn't end here, I just searched "bitcointalk" on YouTube and here were the first 5 results :
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Again, it doesn't end there. Here are articles on how to earn money on bitcointalk :
https://steemit.com/bitcointalk/@akhilesh10/how-to-make-money-on-bitcointalk
https://deeponion.org/community/threads/how-to-make-money-on-bitcointalk.8600/
https://99bitcoins.com/how-to-earn-bitcoins-fast-free/
https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-earn-bitcoins-without-any-investments
I am pretty sure I can find much more, but then again we have seen worse like making Facebook groups to remove The Pharmacist from DT .

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April 23, 2018, 03:33:49 AM
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Not only these, you will get lot of scam videos in which people will suggesting to buy a ponzi coin to others for their referral bonuses.

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Supply and demand is perhaps one of the most fundamental concepts of economics and it is the backbone of a market economy.
Supply - We created merit we had to expect such great demand for this product
Demand - In this period the demand is very high in merit, and we will get these videos and shitty posts.
The relationship between demand and supply underlie the forces behind the allocation of resources. In market economy theories, demand and supply theory will allocate resources in the most efficient way possible.



A, B and C are points on the demand curve. Each point on the curve reflects a direct correlation between quantity demanded (Q) and merit (P). So, at point A, the quantity demanded will be Q1 and the merit will be P1, and so on. The demand relationship curve illustrates the negative relationship between merit and quantity demanded write created post and video. The less a person needs merit, the better the quality of his messages and post  (A), and the more a person needs merit, the more shitty messages he will write (C).

Did you just copy and paste this here??

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April 23, 2018, 05:55:29 AM
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Here is just one of the YouTube spamming tutorials.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQH7B5lWFSE

The suggested post is the usual rubbish that we need to eradicate, and the YouTube viewer replying doesn't even appear to be competent enough to work through the signup process.

I believe that we need a startup board, so that the mods can evaluate new members. Without that it will not be possible to control the flood of several thousand hopeful spammers every day.
Some of the spammer's of this forum is from in the newbies they dont have enough information about bitcoin and that they can answer the question or in a topic correctly. So they have moderators they do there work to help newbies to stop spamming.

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April 23, 2018, 07:33:08 AM
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How many forum signups a day are there? Newbie jail sounds cumbersome at this point.


The numbers make it nigh on impossible. With a million accounts signing up in the last year, the mods will have their hands full if they start evaluating all members. Newbie jail isn't bad, but asking moderators to evaluate all accounts would be asking too much.

I suspect most of them wouldn't post, but having read Bitarts post, I think it could be combined with a merit count. You need to earn at least 5 merits ( say) to be able to post on other boards. That would allow the community to choose new members to allow onto the main boards.

I'm guessing it'll get neglected and not many people will escape newbie jail. The bigger problem there is the Beginners forum will probably become endless threads about being stuck on that board.

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April 23, 2018, 10:30:47 AM
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The Dear Flying Hellfish plagiarist species is not familiar with the economy in general, he refers to this site but this site is not the first source and I could not refer to it because it was a reference not to the source
(https://www.investopedia.com/university/economics/economics3.asp)
Plagiarism can be proven without finding the original source. Any older source is enough to prove you copied it.
The original source is what you should have linked to, to make clear it's a quote and not your own work.

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I have the solution to remove (I think about of) 90% of scammers on bounties, I will post it when I will have time to do so.

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April 23, 2018, 11:27:11 AM
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That is, you want that every mentioned term of definition the mathematical formula must have a quote primary source like this
I'm not sure what you're trying to prove. Your mistake was using copy/paste, and you got busted.

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I wouldn't be surprised if 80% is indeed guilty.


Suggestion to earn an unban after plagiarism:
What if someone who is banned for plagiarism can earn an unban by redeeming themselves reporting others? If someone reports 10 accounts (with more activity than their own account) for plagiarism, I suggest to give him another chance. This could lead to a growing number of cheaters competing to find other cheaters, nicely cleaning up the forum.
Thoughts?

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Suggestion to earn an unban after plagiarism:
What if someone who is banned for plagiarism can earn an unban by redeeming themselves reporting others? If someone reports 10 accounts (with more activity than their own account) for plagiarism, I suggest to give him another chance. This could lead to a growing number of cheaters competing to find other cheaters, nicely cleaning up the forum.
Thoughts?

The problem I can see is that they would just sign up another 10 alts, copy paste with them and then report their own alts. Thus gaining their main account that got banned back.

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The problem I can see is that they would just sign up another 10 alts, copy paste with them and then report their own alts. Thus gaining their main account that got banned back.
I thought of that, that's why the accounts they report need to have a higher activity than their own. It's not worth spamming with 10 new accounts, just to get one back.

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