WTB - Im looking for 2BTC - Paypal - Gox price

[realestone]

the problem is that if he waited days and the guy is a scammer by then he would have already taken the money out of the paypal account then the sender is stuck with nothing because paypal will not reimburse you from their own pocket they take the money back from the receivers account but if the receiver has no funds in their paypal account the account just goes negative and the sender is left with nothing ive had this happen to me before in the past i was just stuck with nothing

you can cash out with paypal in 30 seconds as soon as funds land so he would be in the same boat. If he was going to be scammed it would have happend as soon as he sent payment. so waiting 24 hours wouldnt have changed anything.

you cannot if you using a paypal debit card there is a daily limit if you are sending funds to your bank it takes 2-3 days

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[Stevenrm87]

Update - I received a full refund. I dont know if he reversed the payments himself or paypal did it.

Status:

This claim has been decided in your favor and you'll receive a refund

In the end Im out nothing, but, a lesson has been learned.

[lencom]

So.. can steven Bitcoiner222 get a tag? He does have sockpuppets.. Cindi's already been busted in a lie..

FYI I know a plethora of females who trade btc.

Get your sockpuppet master right.

Haha thanks

[realestone]

Update - I received a full refund. I dont know if he reversed the payments himself or paypal did it.

Status:

This claim has been decided in your favor and you'll receive a refund

In the end Im out nothing, but, a lesson has been learned.

im glad it was resolved

[Exdeus]

the problem is that if he waited days and the guy is a scammer by then he would have already taken the money out of the paypal account then the sender is stuck with nothing because paypal will not reimburse you from their own pocket they take the money back from the receivers account but if the receiver has no funds in their paypal account the account just goes negative and the sender is left with nothing ive had this happen to me before in the past i was just stuck with nothing

you can cash out with paypal in 30 seconds as soon as funds land so he would be in the same boat. If he was going to be scammed it would have happend as soon as he sent payment. so waiting 24 hours wouldnt have changed anything.

you cannot if you using a paypal debit card there is a daily limit if you are sending funds to your bank it takes 2-3 days

Takes me 30 seconds to get it into my bank in the UK.

[superdork]

Awesome. I hope everything works out and I want to sincerely thank this thread for talking me out of buying BTC with PayPal... not that I was all that into it in the first place...

[Xnives99]

Sent .6BTC

[bitcoiner222]

i sent him paypal payment and i did get the coins.. my post can be found

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337740.0

i also left positive feedback for the user.

my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller.

OK, fine, maybe he should not have done the chargeback so fast, stated above several times and now assumed a given.

At this point that is water under the bridge.  Both parties agree that the BTC were never sent.  Therefore the seller should immediatly refund the PayPal USD and we can put this all behind us.  Why has he not issued a refund?  Why all the bluster about lawyers, etc?  He has no reason to not issue the refund.

All this calling each other scammer is total bullshit.  However:

I would not do business with the buyer since he is so "trigger happy" with the chargeback.

I would not do business with the seller as he has not issued the refund and most likely is using a sockpuppet to try and bolster his "case" whatever that is.

Me calling him a scammer is not bullshit. He still has refused to send my USD back via paypal. I have nothing, which = scammed. Plus, he broke written agreement to "immediately send BTC upon receipt of paypal payment. He broke this agreement by telling me to wait till next day AFTER I PAID. THAT ALONE is enough to call off the deal (again I recevied no BTC).

I gave him an out. I told him to just refund my payment and we each move on. He refused, He is a scammer. Nuff said

Everybody in this thread says it, why should I use PayPal if I would be a scammer?
I always would get in trouble with them because of the chargeback function.
There are much more easier methods to scam, really.
So where is your problem that you will not remove the posted rating of me (-6)?
I resended you the money via PayPal of course a short time after that problem, you have the money, you had no lost money or any other problems now. WHERE IS YOUR PROBLEM THEN?

Why should we not be just normal users again, you will remove my rating, I remove yours.
And I could not be a scammer. Why where the short time when we published www.BTC-Exchange.info so many happy costumers with exchanging over 5.000 USD (details in another thread)? Some of them are currently posting in this thread.

Please think about just return to a normal user without trouble anywhere.


Cheers
Bitcoiner222

[BurtW]

Bitcoiner222:

Are you now claiming that you issued a refund of the PayPal funds back to Stevenrm87?  If you did, that was the right thing to do.

[Jcw188]

I just looked up this thread because I just had the following situation:

I posted that I wanted to buy .09 BTC via verified Paypal.  I got a PM from Cindi32 (who posted earlier in this thread) saying ok, but I needed to send the funds first.  Cindi has like 10 posts.  So then I asked for a reference because Cindi indicated they have done other transactions.  Cindi sent back the names....

bitcoiner222 and Exdeus.

So, and this is speculation, yet an educated speculation, I'd be careful about Cindi32.  Obviously, I have the PMs saved to prove this happened. 

Edit:  Now I notice Exdeus is sticking up for bitcoiner222 as well.  Wow.

[BurtW]

Code:

Name:  bitcoiner222 
Posts:  42 
Activity: 28 
Position:  Member 
Date Registered:  November 08, 2013, 03:49:07 PM 
Last Active:  Today at 08:42:33 PM

Name:  Exdeus 
Posts:  54 
Activity: 54 
Position:  Member 
Date Registered:  June 22, 2011, 11:08:05 PM 
Last Active:  Today at 08:06:05 PM 

Name:  cindi32 
Posts:  10 
Activity: 10 
Position:  Jr. Member 
Date Registered:  November 14, 2013, 12:21:56 PM 
Last Active:  Today at 08:51:29 PM

Cindi32 is a fairly obvious sock puppet of bitcoiner222, Exdeus is another matter.

[Exdeus]

im not sticking up for any one i was just showing that i have traded with him and the trade went well.

so before you even suggest im a scammer.. or i have any links to them, here is a link to my bitmit: https://www.bitmit.net/user/exdeus

*IF any one wants to buy youtube, facebook likes, twitter fans hit me up via PM*

[realestone]

Code:

Name:  bitcoiner222 
Posts:  42 
Activity: 28 
Position:  Member 
Date Registered:  November 08, 2013, 03:49:07 PM 
Last Active:  Today at 08:42:33 PM

Name:  Exdeus 
Posts:  54 
Activity: 54 
Position:  Member 
Date Registered:  June 22, 2011, 11:08:05 PM 
Last Active:  Today at 08:06:05 PM 

Name:  cindi32 
Posts:  10 
Activity: 10 
Position:  Jr. Member 
Date Registered:  November 14, 2013, 12:21:56 PM 
Last Active:  Today at 08:51:29 PM

Cindi32 is a fairly obvious sock puppet of bitcoiner222, Exdeus is another matter.

interesting

[Stevenrm87]

Sent .6BTC

Successful transaction for .6BTC

Thank You Sir

[Seanzqt]

If he sent the coins, surely he could post the TxID, no?

I already had contacted the lawyer of our company, because HE IS A SCAMMER!
I had prepared to send him the BTC, but my wallet checks every single transaction manually, so it could takes a few hours until he would had received them. But after just a half hour he uses the "Chargeback"-option of PayPal. That is not fair because I already had paid for the transaction.
Other users are posting positive feedback (look at the "BTC-Exchange.info"-thread in "Project Development".

SCAMMER, DO NOT TRADE WITH HIM!!!


Cheers
Bitcoiner222

Really, honestly, lawyer? 

What the heck is he going to do, I bet you do not even have one, and since this is a digital and an illegal currency you have nothing to stand on.

[BurtW]

...illegal currency...

What are you talking about here?  Provide a link to prove your assertion that Bitcoin is in any way illegal or delete your unfounded FUD.

[bitcoiner222]

No one is a sock puppet of me.
I simply sold Excdeus and cindi32 BTC, but I am not someone who is haveing sock puppets just to get a good rating.
I could show you here the posts of Exdeus for example:

im looking to do around £150 worth via paypal if thats ok with you?

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how many coins will the £150 get payment will come from my paypal do you have sykpe as i would like a long term thing with you.

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AXXXX XXXXX, you have sent £150.00 GBP to XXXX XXXX.

1753wGKmdA7yAjvt4A9oDB4F2z3JCiennD+

done, will need you again soon i think

From cindi32:

hi, could i buy btc from you. need 1.5 btc soon.

ok, payment was sended to your adress

i am awaiting

thanks. will rate your trust soon.

Think that should be enough.

Cheers
Bitcoiner222

[BurtW]

I already had ordered from this selller two days ago an amount of 1.5 BTC and everything worked fine.
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.


Cindi32

Cindi32/bitcoiner222:

Again, if you can, either one of you should be able to post the transaction IDs showing the transfers of the 1.5 BTC and the 0.2 BTC mentioned above.

[bitcoiner222]

I already had ordered from this selller two days ago an amount of 1.5 BTC and everything worked fine.
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.


Cindi32

Cindi32/bitcoiner222:

Again, if you can, either one of you should be able to post the transaction IDs showing the transfers of the 1.5 BTC and the 0.2 BTC mentioned above.

Second transfer on 18/11/2013
For the 1.5 BTC
https://blockchain.info/de/tx/13b5eb50243854d9591c32e6f46204bab0c0a00b30d92d4cc573305ba27c9f0d (here I used two wallets, because the first one was getting empty)

His adresses:
17pPCEH6UsACyH7GaSzdS8mUrUtpxdeAML
1PXYrZcAoAYMZN83i7S8h1bYxeCWtzcf4R

First transaction on 15/11/13
https://blockchain.info/de/tx/2d17ad1d483744220a6927648b370a4c71c9852ffb09bcbfa9121958b4e68fd4

His adress: 1MLFAd2bfZv97FXoK4LiyPJiU4FRk1PDaQ


Hope that I could help you with that.


Cheers
Bitcoiner222

[Exdeus]

i just made another trade with him waiting for coins will update if any issues.