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WagerBTC (OP)
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November 19, 2013, 01:47:03 AM
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I have been around the bitcoin scene since the beginning of the year.

What I have realized is that bitcoin is a movement in a sense that it is decentralized without government regulation. Now what has been confusing me recently is that if the whole point of bitcoin is to USE it as a currency and get away from all the fees associated with credit cards/paypal and such, why is everybody treating this as a stock???

Don't get me wrong, I initially invested into bitcoin to show my support and to be a long term holder (for the cause). Due to my impulsive nature, I got out, still up, but no where near where I would be up now, but I can't complain being up. If bitcoin is being bought/sold just to make a quick buck, then doesn't that go against what bitcoin stands for???

I'm not saying that all this buying/selling in the past month is hurting bitcoin, the past shows that any type of news is good news for bitcoin (unless it's government/MTGoX related). I just hope that this is not another bubble. That last bubble at $265+ down to under $60 hurt bitcoins reputation in a way that news and media were bashing it. The ideal future would be me walking into a local convenience store and buying say a can of soda with bitcoin.

Final speculative question, What is bitcoin going to stabilize at!?!?!?!?!? 250? 500? I was leaning towards 250 when it was at 450ish, but now I couldn't even guess a price.
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November 19, 2013, 01:49:21 AM
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It's chaotic and probably will be for the next day, some people made a lot of money though just a few minutes ago.

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November 19, 2013, 02:18:18 AM
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It has been said from early days that Bitcoin is either worth nothing or it is worth a fortune. If you believe Bitcoin is worth something, just buy and hold and forget about the details.  Anyone guessing at a price forecast right now is full of it.
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November 19, 2013, 02:26:35 AM
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The answer has to do with what money is, money in reality, not what the dictionary or governments say it is.

When the price of an item at the store goes up or comes down, the price remains the same if you consider the item as the money rather than the US Dollar as the money.

Consider Bitcoin. The price of a bitcoin in relation to another bitcoin is still the same. If you want to buy a bitcoin with a bitcoin, you will always be paying a bitcoin for the bitcoin you buy. Therefore, it is not the bitcoin price that is fluctuating. The bitcoin price has never fluctuated. It is the price of the US Dollar that is fluctuating. You simply have an incomplete focus.

Why doesn't the dollar fluctuate in price with regard to all other items the way it has been with Bitcoin lately? It's because of the people and the stores that sell products and items. Actually, there is great variance of prices between stores. Just look at airline prices on the Internet. Look at appliance prices for the exact same product made by the exact same manufacturer. There is great difference in price depending on where you look. Yet, if you want to swap one refrigerator for another that is exactly the same, the "price" is the same also.

The whole point revolves around the kind of value people place on things, and the methods they have available for evaluating value.

People would be wise to become better investors with everything that they buy, by evaluating all products with the idea that the products are all different forms of money. Don't look at the dollar as money. Rather, look at gasoline as money when you are at the pumps. Look at food as money when you're at the grocer. Do it so that you start to get the feel for trading rather than placing all your eggs in the US Dollar as money.

When enough people want Bitcoin, dollars will become a thing of the past. Then, after the Internet collapses, we'll be back to barter, or gold and silver.

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