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May 02, 2018, 03:38:42 PM
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I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

Those whales that you're pointing are manipulating the market by just selling and buying a huge number of bitcoins that really affects the market that can cause of pump and dump of its price. And sometimes they are spreading FUDS that can cause of panic selling of those small time holders that are afraid of losing a bigger amount of money if they don't sell immediately.
Yes, you are correct with some whales who do understand how to create panics, they will dumped certain amount of their holdings and it will create
movements, some wise whales already place an order entry making it sure that after they begin selling their own coins weak holders will follow letting
them to keep more coins to hold and then after that start to pumped again letting fomo being trapped and collect more earnings coming out from this
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May 02, 2018, 03:43:04 PM
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I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

Whales manipulate market using news to created big rumors that can change our decision as trader/ investor, and they replace their fund and show to us that this rumors is true. Some people will change their decision and rest of them still with their choice. That's why I never look's news, it will make me break my decision, hope you agree with me.  

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May 02, 2018, 05:37:23 PM
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Just the way whales manipulates the ocean .
The whales are just the biggest part of the market and have the biggest investments on the coin . Their impact is huge in the market . They are basically some organization as whole that take the initiative to invest , trade or sell off . Any of their actions leads to decrease or increase in the price of the coin , and sometimes the whole market .         

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May 02, 2018, 06:37:40 PM
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As we continue to trust Bitcoin, the bitcoin price will increase.

Trust.... I keep seeing people talk about trust that the price will reach this or that levels, bla bla bla. Trust is something you can't talk about when it concerns the price that may or may not go up in the short term. I have never had any confidence in the market like that, and I'm glad that I prevented myself from becoming such a person. The only trust I have is strictly concerning Bitcoin's fundamentals, and nothing else. The market has always been a wrong indicator that has not much to do with Bitcoin's utility or economical developments itself -- the price is only pointing out how much fear or greed is going through the market. It's a roller coaster.
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May 02, 2018, 07:01:06 PM
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Big players are known as a "whales " in the market which the only players can manipulate the price because of their huge contribution and indeed no one can spot when it will happen 'cause only those whales knows about it . For more information read some articles around the internet maybe it can help  .regards
We will always have big players no matter what and these are the people with huge positions who have been able to make so much from that position to be able to know how to move the market in their favor. They are traders as well and they always know when they have been able to shed off enough weak hands out of the market and how to get FOMOs back in. I always see them as emotional readers as they can read the charts to see which pattern would favor them the most and mostly they are the market makers.

There could be multiple secret ways through which whales are still able to manipulate the markets. I mean most probably they all are keeping their methods secret so that rest of traders are unable to take control of the markets. This is just an assumption. The good thing is, when number of traders increase, whales will lose their power of controlling the market Tongue.
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May 03, 2018, 01:40:39 AM
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I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

it seems that the whales are moving around manipulating prices by raising prices after it declines so that when it rises it can trigger other traders to buy after that they the whales are instantly profiting by returning the price below again.
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May 03, 2018, 02:47:15 AM
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About 40% of all bitcoins belong to 1,000 users. 17.3% of the coins that have already been mined are controlled by top-100 BTC wallets.
Unfortunately, regulators react very slowly to the development of situation on the cryptocurrency market, so many of the existing rules are still blurred.

As with many types of assets, large private and institutional owners do conspire to manipulate the price.
In case of cryptocurrency, such manipulations go to extremes due to the immaturity of these markets and the speculative nature of assets.

Whales can inform or coordinate deals with a limited circle of people.
Many of the key owners of bitcoin have known each other for years - they believed in cryptocurrency at its dawn when the majority of people only laughed out of it.
So, in this way whales can potentially arrange things to crash or raise the market.



A whale is someone who mined bitcoin when it first released, or someone who bought bitcoin when it was really cheap. Also, a whale could be a rich guy from the stock market, or a business owner.

Whales don't necessarily manipulate the price, its just that when a whale decides to buy a coin, they spend a huge amount. Some whales have so much money, they could buy up entire crypto markets. And a few, if not more than we can imagine, have enough money to buy all the cryptocurrency in existence (just 1 whale).

So really it is a matter of perspective, for example, 1 btc is currently $9000+ when it was less than a dollar less than ten years ago. The first bitcoin faucet gave out 5 btc for free every day. The secret to wealth is finding affordable coins you like and buying massive hoards of them. HODL.
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May 03, 2018, 03:52:56 AM
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Mostly cryptocurrency especially altcoins are whales manipulated.Whales has a power to dictate the trading market of particular coins/token. They have the most hold token and BTC to buy and dump in most  exchange, for them to gain profit. how does it works? Whales are mostly group of traders or company having a big capital and they have to attract small time traders to participate to their dump and pump activities in particular exchange. sometimes whales created FOMO and FUD so that some weak traders and coin holders are always trap on their hands.
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May 03, 2018, 04:51:44 AM
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I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?
The whales manipulate the market by agree to pump or dump their holding at an agree time and percentage. If you can spot this it means you are also a whales too. However for those that has deep knowledge on the technical aspects of the market they can spot this pattern in charting and trade accordingly.
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May 03, 2018, 01:45:19 PM
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I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?
The whales have excessively large amounts of certain coins and hence they set up huge buy/sell orders and swallow up trades, but on major exchanges. It then transcends to other exchanges as the traders follow the order.
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May 03, 2018, 03:07:14 PM
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This could mean many different things.  One being the fact that news networks are pushing some sort of narrative to try to get people to lean a certain way -- meaning that they're going to manipulate people into buying when they have FAKE NEWS.

This could also be done by exchanges, exchanges can crash at key moment (on purpose) to do this sort of thing. Exchanges can collude to run the price down in a way that liquidates the shorts they have. -- THIS IS AN EASY WAY FOR THEM TO MAKE MONEY.




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May 29, 2018, 12:25:31 PM
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I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

it seems that the whales are moving around manipulating prices by raising prices after it declines so that when it rises it can trigger other traders to buy after that they the whales are instantly profiting by returning the price below again.

For instance, they can buy more than 51% of the cryptocurrency, and the market will fall. Then they will get the cheaper coins, and after the market rises, they will get huge money. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbwSRiBUKWE
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May 29, 2018, 01:37:30 PM
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They are big players in the industry whom motives is to drive price to their desire level.They do that by creating artificial buy and sell order on major crypto exchanges.
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May 29, 2018, 02:05:56 PM
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It's always the whales that are trying to control and manipulate everything in the market. There is also the chance on them or some of them to lose but most of the time they are winning. It is all about deep pockets. 

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May 29, 2018, 02:14:19 PM
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Big players often manipulate with prices, to  get good profit, it comes from Forex market. I think that big players either have mining farms or they invested a lot of USD in BTC. And then they buy a lot crypto, wait for market price change and then sale, then repeat. It is simple buy and sale job.  Wink
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May 29, 2018, 04:28:19 PM
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I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

The reason behind that is for them to gain more profits, they are going to dump the coins that they are holding, and it will cause a dump for the market, many people will do panic selling, and they are going to buy back to have more coins, that is what you called whales. So, if you fall for that trick, it just mean you lost the fight, you lost your tokens, you lost your profit.
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May 29, 2018, 04:30:39 PM
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I think the number of "bitcoin whales" is getting progressively smaller with time. This is one of the aspects of bitcoin that is appealing to me when I consider alt-coins. The number of early adopters holding thousands of bitcoins is becoming smaller and smaller. Every time there is a big sell-off, I imagine that there are holders of large numbers of bitcoins who are taking profit. As time goes on and the bitcoins become re-distributed among millions of people, each holding smaller amounts, the price will not be nearly as volatile. This fact puts bitcoin way ahead of all other alt-coins.
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May 29, 2018, 04:36:27 PM
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Whales means the people holding the crypto currencies in big oortion and we all knows that the price of crypto currencies is based on the supply and demand so when they have huge amount they can increase and decrease the demand by selling and buying the cryoto currencies.

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May 29, 2018, 07:19:24 PM
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Whales means the people holding the crypto currencies in big oortion and we all knows that the price of crypto currencies is based on the supply and demand so when they have huge amount they can increase and decrease the demand by selling and buying the cryoto currencies.
Yeah they can actually manipulate the market and we cannot control them too, but those whales have an advantage as well as disadvantage too so don't worry much about them as you can go with their flow, you just need to focus on the market.
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May 30, 2018, 04:30:38 AM
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A group of whale inject and withdraw investment massively which effect the market and most people get panic if market suddenly falls,this is the situation to hold with patience and never panic sell.Actually no one know the next step of whale but past history and events help to save money.

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