How do whales mainpulate the market?

[minthit]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

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[Ararbermas]

Big players are known as a "whales " in the market which the only players can manipulate the price because of their huge contribution and indeed no one can spot when it will happen 'cause only those whales knows about it . For more information read some articles around the internet maybe it can help  .regards

[pooya87]

there are just too many ways of doing it so it is impossible to give you a walk through but just as an example of how you can notice it i can talk about ETH and the way they used to prevent its crashes. the whales there were putting up huge buy walls on major exchanges (at the time it was poloniex), these buy walls were huge to eat any dumps that were coming. it lasted days and that slowed down the dump of this coin significantly.
such walls is a good sign that there is a huge dump going on which the whales don't like but is inevitable.

[muddy waters]

About 40% of all bitcoins belong to 1,000 users. 17.3% of the coins that have already been mined are controlled by top-100 BTC wallets.
Unfortunately, regulators react very slowly to the development of situation on the cryptocurrency market, so many of the existing rules are still blurred.

As with many types of assets, large private and institutional owners do conspire to manipulate the price.
In case of cryptocurrency, such manipulations go to extremes due to the immaturity of these markets and the speculative nature of assets.

Whales can inform or coordinate deals with a limited circle of people.
Many of the key owners of bitcoin have known each other for years - they believed in cryptocurrency at its dawn when the majority of people only laughed out of it.
So, in this way whales can potentially arrange things to crash or raise the market.

[SellBuyAcc]

Whales can really manipulate thru investing or withdrawing their money from bitcoin, we all know that from here because it was already talked here from years ago..

[kaizerblitz]

By dumling the price and pumping the price whales has a power it comes manipulated the pricing. In this world of crypto it's a big advantage those have a big investment.

[minthit]

there are just too many ways of doing it so it is impossible to give you a walk through but just as an example of how you can notice it i can talk about ETH and the way they used to prevent its crashes. the whales there were putting up huge buy walls on major exchanges (at the time it was poloniex), these buy walls were huge to eat any dumps that were coming. it lasted days and that slowed down the dump of this coin significantly.
such walls is a good sign that there is a huge dump going on which the whales don't like but is inevitable.

I saw such walls in some project and I just wasn't sure what was it. Thanks for clarification.

Whales can really manipulate thru investing or withdrawing their money from bitcoin, we all know that from here because it was already talked here from years ago..

As I mentioned, I have such general sense. No doubt about it.

[Nhebu]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

Whales are the investors who have a big share/slices in stocks either in crypto or FOREX. The manipulation occurs when they control the market by means of holding and instant selling of their investment. Sometimes, conspiracy among whales are happen in cryptocurrency market. They often buy or sell a huge amount of investment in order for a price to fall or rise. If you are a whale their is a possibility that you can gain a lot of profits by means of manipulation.

[Elai101]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

Whales are the investors who have a big share/slices in stocks either in crypto or FOREX. The manipulation occurs when they control the market by means of holding and instant selling of their investment. Sometimes, conspiracy among whales are happen in cryptocurrency market. They often buy or sell a huge amount of investment in order for a price to fall or rise. If you are a whale their is a possibility that you can gain a lot of profits by means of manipulation.

Yes, whales are the biggest holders of bitcoin or altcoin in the market, so they can really affect for the market changes and we all know that the coins market price are proportional to the law of supply and demand, then therefore if the whales will sell or buy such massive quantity then it will reflect totally in markets supply and demand status and thus brings a big changes in price of the particular coin.

[novaprime]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

If you can find out what the whales are doing then you have become a genius because whales are the ones who never lose out on this market because they have a good strategy to make money and nobody knows what's going to happen is that with just a slight sell, the market can fall off immediately and the whale will find ways to sell panic in the market.

[MAJICOIN]

Big whales manipulate market and due to their strong control they can give a good value to the market and if they withdraw their currency from bitcoin to other coins then the market changes with their activities. If they sale their coins then the supply of the market will high and with this the price will fall down and if they start buying this currency then automatically the crypto prices will rise.

[zhelis74]

Big whales manipulate market and due to their strong control they can give a good value to the market and if they withdraw their currency from bitcoin to other coins then the market changes with their activities. If they sale their coins then the supply of the market will high and with this the price will fall down and if they start buying this currency then automatically the crypto prices will rise.

Whales are the most factors for any market changes because they own a very large amount of coins, so they can easily dump and pump at any time and still they are are the one benefited after and usually small traders are very hard to gain profit because like whales they only eat small fish and we are the fish that usually whales gonna eat for their profit.

[chris200x9]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

If you can find out what the whales are doing then you have become a genius because whales are the ones who never lose out on this market because they have a good strategy to make money and nobody knows what's going to happen is that with just a slight sell, the market can fall off immediately and the whale will find ways to sell panic in the market.

Since they are holding a huge quantity of coins so if they want to bring prices down when they start selling at a lower than market price in small quantities and if they continue this for a short while and automatically panic sellers will join them to bring down the market. But only these guys know that they are the one selling more so after they reach their target price then they will buy back at a lower price. Finally, panic sellers are the one will lose the money in this market.

[Gozie51]

About 40% of all bitcoins belong to 1,000 users. 17.3% of the coins that have already been mined are controlled by top-100 BTC wallets.

Nice deductions in your post but do you have any statistical prove to your mathematical analysis?  I understand quite alright that the whales can manipulate the market because it is their investment and they make huge amount of money from it. Hence, won't allow it to collapse or messed up.

[vv181]

How exactly do these whales do this?

As the recent example in the last BItcoin rally to the 9,8K'ish many people are about going to long with leverage, and then the whales dumping the price 150 USD in 5 min. That's how whales kill small fish.

[evgen3790]

The largest exchanges between BTS holders occur through personal exchange. This is already known to all.
And price manipulation takes place by setting up a bot that moves the chart as you like to those rich uncles.

[omonuyak]

In any market there are people that decide the directions of the trends and most of them are the big market players and those that has huge capital. These people are the whales and most time they do make they money from what the small traders lose.

[nydiacaskey01]

This whales have a lot of money and they use it to cause panic to those with weak hands. Whales can be a group or just 1 person with pooled money. They can also create a fake trend. Lets say they are holding an altcoin and they dumped it all causing a big red candle stick. Those with weak hands will panic and sell what ever they are holding causing the price to go down further. Then whales can buy again at low price.

[adzino]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

It is quite simple to understand. "Whales" are those who are rich enough to buy anything they want and somewhat famous. They can easiliy influence the public. Anything they say against or for crypto currency causes the price to jump up and down - a form of manipulation. Another form is indirectly purchasing a huge amount of coins in short period of time causing the price to surge up. This price rise makes people "panic buy" more of those coins and in the end the price starts to jump further above. This caused the initial investor (the whale who is manipulating the market) to dump all the coins and max out his profit. Causing the price to drop. Seeing the price drop other users starts to "panic sell" all their coins which further dumps the price. Thats where the whales again step in to repeat the inital process.

[paynercash]

Whales are the ones who can handle large amounts of money in the market. Their buying and selling volumes have a big impact on the Crypto market. So they bought the price for the altcoin price increase, after rising to the level whales are not afford to buy, they will sell in large quantities and prices begin to decline.

[rickadone]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

We are not whales, so assume this to be our imagination. They have enough money to accumulate as much as they can during a deep correction and from then on, they try as much as possible to instigate some potential market trying to move up and in that case, you start seeing traders and some few people who do not even have any knowledge of trading trying to get in, gradually, however they want the price to move, they give the signs and then they profit a lot from that whereas they recycle it until they keep getting more and more.

[Hassan02]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

We are not whales, so assume this to be our imagination. They have enough money to accumulate as much as they can during a deep correction and from then on, they try as much as possible to instigate some potential market trying to move up and in that case, you start seeing traders and some few people who do not even have any knowledge of trading trying to get in, gradually, however they want the price to move, they give the signs and then they profit a lot from that whereas they recycle it until they keep getting more and more.

whales as some of the big players took a lot of here in currency and they are the people that can have to control and might be know what should be the movement of coin i think more knowledge may take on it.

[Sony.UK]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

We are not whales, so assume this to be our imagination. They have enough money to accumulate as much as they can during a deep correction and from then on, they try as much as possible to instigate some potential market trying to move up and in that case, you start seeing traders and some few people who do not even have any knowledge of trading trying to get in, gradually, however they want the price to move, they give the signs and then they profit a lot from that whereas they recycle it until they keep getting more and more.

Bump signals are living with the help of whales mate. Do you agree that whales are not manipulating the coins. I really believe this happening not imagination and all as you said bro. There are people like do not trust this.
I see the banking corporates are the really troubling the bitcoin with the help of media power they have.
Please whales do not trouble the cryptocurrency user as you want to make the money on banking side.

[Fatunad]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

When we do talk about whales then they are the big players on this industry which they are capable enough on manipulating prices since they do have the money to play. Lets say they are even just a group or an individual who would decide to pump or dump a certain coin and since they do have the money they can do that with ease.As a trader you will got pissed when you caught in between but if you can able to ride with the wave then it would be an advantage for you.

[buwaytress]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

We are not whales, so assume this to be our imagination. They have enough money to accumulate as much as they can during a deep correction and from then on, they try as much as possible to instigate some potential market trying to move up and in that case, you start seeing traders and some few people who do not even have any knowledge of trading trying to get in, gradually, however they want the price to move, they give the signs and then they profit a lot from that whereas they recycle it until they keep getting more and more.

Think I somewhat agree with this. Just like all our presumptions about big banks, Wall Street traders, institutional whales... we all think we know how and what they do, but we'll never really know. I wonder sometimes that if we were on the nail, wouldn't others be able to gang up and act like whales, and therefore, nullify their strategies? I've read a few posts about so-called Spoofy too and I buy quite a bit of the logic behind it, but I think the whales are far removed from these discussions and probably work in ways far more complex than what we're able to discern.

But cycling of profits makes a lot of sense. I think we see it in Bitcoin also - whales just doubling, tripling, cycling profits.

[minthit]

While I am trying to learn about manipulation, I found this.
https://twitter.com/HeyRhett/status/990367593923055621
Other than whales cycling the profit, I realize there can also be bad actors trying to manipulate the market. That's bad especially for those who have no idea what the market is about. Maybe also that's why people say hodling is the best strategy.

[Whosdaddy]

there are just too many ways of doing it so it is impossible to give you a walk through but just as an example of how you can notice it i can talk about ETH and the way they used to prevent its crashes. the whales there were putting up huge buy walls on major exchanges (at the time it was poloniex), these buy walls were huge to eat any dumps that were coming. it lasted days and that slowed down the dump of this coin significantly.
such walls is a good sign that there is a huge dump going on which the whales don't like but is inevitable.

In fact, that simple explains it all. However, I will like to add that these whales are actually the ones with the large money who always use their positions anyway to start the downward or any upward movement. They know when to start accumulating in a market and they know when to start distributing.

It is their way, they have always been doing it and they of course would be able to explain better but the way it is, they are more like the ones making the market what it is, the traders participating and some noobs getting pinched.

[Pursuer]

While I am trying to learn about manipulation, I found this.
https://twitter.com/HeyRhett/status/990367593923055621
Other than whales cycling the profit, I realize there can also be bad actors trying to manipulate the market. That's bad especially for those who have no idea what the market is about. Maybe also that's why people say hodling is the best strategy.

that tweet is the least related to this subject that is being discussed here, mainly because it is posted by a person who is tweeting about a bitcoin fork himself, possibly the dev of the said coin!
in any case twitter is a good example of whale manipulation of altcoin market. there are lots of pump groups most of which are just kidding themselves and scamming newbies who follow them but some big ones are also exploiting the newbishness of investors and making profit from their idiocy.

[stefany101]

Whales often see on the big exchanges like Bittrexx and many other example exchanges. They can manipulate the price of a cryptocurrencies through buying or selling the specific altcoins they want to trade.If they want to trade, they are in group or even organization. It is good to buy with them because there is a lot of chances that you can earn big profits if you trade with them but be careful sometimes. They can cause a big pump or dump in the markets if they want.

[mobnepal]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

Manipulation is normal in both forex and crypto trading.
Whales are those who have big sum of crypto or money which they can use to artificially pump or dump price of any coin they want, specially when there is fud around the coin.

Most of the time only small size traders and newbie get trapped in this manipulation but if real news get out than market might react opposite of whale move where whale might loss big sum.

[Leonard2016]

there are a lot of ways , Just one of them happened 2 days ago when bitcoin made a 750 $ candle in just a minute!
another way is to using trading bots and make a fake orderbook , and you see fake walls in some price that makes you to think it is a resistance or a support , but when you put your order they remove fake orders!
This market is like a jungle , need to be very careful.

[putrisa]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

whales or big players toy with price conditions by making a very big selling wall and do not give a high buy order, and I've seen with my eyes the whale buy instantly and the difference of 2 seconds the price directly in the dump again.

[AbyssLagiaz]

Their exit and entry makes the demand increase or go sky rocket that because of that quantity of demand, it causes the price pump or the bull trend we know in a day. It is not entirely up to them that the price increases but they play a major part of it when the market moves overtime.

[kripkiki12]

Personally, I dont believe in this whale theory. it's the market that results this movement.

More likely what I believe in is the controlled news flow... sometimes good news are coming out every day, the next period only bad ones.

[naidray]

By dumling the price and pumping the price whales has a power it comes manipulated the pricing. In this world of crypto it's a big advantage those have a big investment.

It is just more like calling them the biggest fish and they are that way because they are holding a huge amount of any of the coin and that simply makes them a whale. They can affect the market because of the position in the market, and that is how they make shit load of profit anyway. They move the market based on how the perceive it at a point and then they know how to do this perfectly as long as they are making a lot from it. Most traders know what to look out for technically, whales know how to read emotions; long term investors just know how to watch the play.

[fiomcorka]

While I am trying to learn about manipulation, I found this.
https://twitter.com/HeyRhett/status/990367593923055621
Other than whales cycling the profit, I realize there can also be bad actors trying to manipulate the market. That's bad especially for those who have no idea what the market is about. Maybe also that's why people say hodling is the best strategy.

I have always advised people to do some research on their own regardless the nature of news they heard. Even if it is in the favor of them, they ought to dig deep for their own safety. But in case of bad rumors, the necessity of detecting stuff increases as this is more harmful due to the way it effects the listener. He becomes more vulnerable to mistakes. Generally, giving up on any coin becomes a regret.

[Ctn]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

In similar manner where the pumping and dumping activity is performed by group of people on one consent. In case of the whales well they are whales and they can just do it alone or in groups with more or less huge effects on the coins that is getting pumped. Its just that if you put more money into he market with higher buy walls then the coin price (high rate) starts changing to next buy wall. More the demand more is the value gained by that value and thus at the end if whales are satisfied then they will stop at desired rates and will stop investing more

[Hemady17]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

These are based on my personal knowledge in whales, manipulation start with series of interval pumping of specific coins. They usually divide the pumping into the five consecutive days of pumping

Example:
Day 1 1M USD
Day 2 1M USD
Day 3 1M USD
Day 4 1M USD
Day 5 1M USD

Between the day 6 to day 10 they usually exit their investment. These are the period where most of the small player starts to invest. Whales are not guaranteed to win on their trade but most of the time they won. They have high probability of winning.

[PX-Z]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

Those whales that you're pointing are manipulating the market by just selling and buying a huge number of bitcoins that really affects the market that can cause of pump and dump of its price. And sometimes they are spreading FUDS that can cause of panic selling of those small time holders that are afraid of losing a bigger amount of money if they don't sell immediately.

[BlackPanda]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

Bitcoin prices are sometimes manipulated by bandit who does have a lot of Bitcoin, they do dump and pump easily and change the price movement Bitcoin in the market. but for me our strengths are all great, the best way is that we should not be easily influenced in the Bitcoin price movement. For example, by not doing a panic when Bitcoin prices dump, because when the panic is increasing then the price of Bitcoin will continue to decline. So reinforce our emotional and keep Bitcoin's price unaffected by negative sentiment. As we continue to trust Bitcoin, the bitcoin price will increase.

[Caladonian]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

Those whales that you're pointing are manipulating the market by just selling and buying a huge number of bitcoins that really affects the market that can cause of pump and dump of its price. And sometimes they are spreading FUDS that can cause of panic selling of those small time holders that are afraid of losing a bigger amount of money if they don't sell immediately.

Yes, you are correct with some whales who do understand how to create panics, they will dumped certain amount of their holdings and it will create
movements, some wise whales already place an order entry making it sure that after they begin selling their own coins weak holders will follow letting
them to keep more coins to hold and then after that start to pumped again letting fomo being trapped and collect more earnings coming out from this
new and weak investors.

[yanto@1977]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

Whales manipulate market using news to created big rumors that can change our decision as trader/ investor, and they replace their fund and show to us that this rumors is true. Some people will change their decision and rest of them still with their choice. That's why I never look's news, it will make me break my decision, hope you agree with me.  

[MoonJeina]

Just the way whales manipulates the ocean .
The whales are just the biggest part of the market and have the biggest investments on the coin . Their impact is huge in the market . They are basically some organization as whole that take the initiative to invest , trade or sell off . Any of their actions leads to decrease or increase in the price of the coin , and sometimes the whole market .         

[richardsNY]

As we continue to trust Bitcoin, the bitcoin price will increase.

Trust.... I keep seeing people talk about trust that the price will reach this or that levels, bla bla bla. Trust is something you can't talk about when it concerns the price that may or may not go up in the short term. I have never had any confidence in the market like that, and I'm glad that I prevented myself from becoming such a person. The only trust I have is strictly concerning Bitcoin's fundamentals, and nothing else. The market has always been a wrong indicator that has not much to do with Bitcoin's utility or economical developments itself -- the price is only pointing out how much fear or greed is going through the market. It's a roller coaster.

[Kevin77]

Big players are known as a "whales " in the market which the only players can manipulate the price because of their huge contribution and indeed no one can spot when it will happen 'cause only those whales knows about it . For more information read some articles around the internet maybe it can help  .regards

We will always have big players no matter what and these are the people with huge positions who have been able to make so much from that position to be able to know how to move the market in their favor. They are traders as well and they always know when they have been able to shed off enough weak hands out of the market and how to get FOMOs back in. I always see them as emotional readers as they can read the charts to see which pattern would favor them the most and mostly they are the market makers.

There could be multiple secret ways through which whales are still able to manipulate the markets. I mean most probably they all are keeping their methods secret so that rest of traders are unable to take control of the markets. This is just an assumption. The good thing is, when number of traders increase, whales will lose their power of controlling the market .

[mia khalifa]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

it seems that the whales are moving around manipulating prices by raising prices after it declines so that when it rises it can trigger other traders to buy after that they the whales are instantly profiting by returning the price below again.

[diorthotis]

About 40% of all bitcoins belong to 1,000 users. 17.3% of the coins that have already been mined are controlled by top-100 BTC wallets.
Unfortunately, regulators react very slowly to the development of situation on the cryptocurrency market, so many of the existing rules are still blurred.

As with many types of assets, large private and institutional owners do conspire to manipulate the price.
In case of cryptocurrency, such manipulations go to extremes due to the immaturity of these markets and the speculative nature of assets.

Whales can inform or coordinate deals with a limited circle of people.
Many of the key owners of bitcoin have known each other for years - they believed in cryptocurrency at its dawn when the majority of people only laughed out of it.
So, in this way whales can potentially arrange things to crash or raise the market.

A whale is someone who mined bitcoin when it first released, or someone who bought bitcoin when it was really cheap. Also, a whale could be a rich guy from the stock market, or a business owner.

Whales don't necessarily manipulate the price, its just that when a whale decides to buy a coin, they spend a huge amount. Some whales have so much money, they could buy up entire crypto markets. And a few, if not more than we can imagine, have enough money to buy all the cryptocurrency in existence (just 1 whale).

So really it is a matter of perspective, for example, 1 btc is currently $9000+ when it was less than a dollar less than ten years ago. The first bitcoin faucet gave out 5 btc for free every day. The secret to wealth is finding affordable coins you like and buying massive hoards of them. HODL.

[Ronaldobaban17]

Mostly cryptocurrency especially altcoins are whales manipulated.Whales has a power to dictate the trading market of particular coins/token. They have the most hold token and BTC to buy and dump in most  exchange, for them to gain profit. how does it works? Whales are mostly group of traders or company having a big capital and they have to attract small time traders to participate to their dump and pump activities in particular exchange. sometimes whales created FOMO and FUD so that some weak traders and coin holders are always trap on their hands.

[omonuyak]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

The whales manipulate the market by agree to pump or dump their holding at an agree time and percentage. If you can spot this it means you are also a whales too. However for those that has deep knowledge on the technical aspects of the market they can spot this pattern in charting and trade accordingly.

[acheampong64]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

The whales have excessively large amounts of certain coins and hence they set up huge buy/sell orders and swallow up trades, but on major exchanges. It then transcends to other exchanges as the traders follow the order.

[squatz1]

This could mean many different things.  One being the fact that news networks are pushing some sort of narrative to try to get people to lean a certain way -- meaning that they're going to manipulate people into buying when they have FAKE NEWS.

This could also be done by exchanges, exchanges can crash at key moment (on purpose) to do this sort of thing. Exchanges can collude to run the price down in a way that liquidates the shorts they have. -- THIS IS AN EASY WAY FOR THEM TO MAKE MONEY.

[illnino]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

it seems that the whales are moving around manipulating prices by raising prices after it declines so that when it rises it can trigger other traders to buy after that they the whales are instantly profiting by returning the price below again.

For instance, they can buy more than 51% of the cryptocurrency, and the market will fall. Then they will get the cheaper coins, and after the market rises, they will get huge money. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbwSRiBUKWE

[richshopgh]

They are big players in the industry whom motives is to drive price to their desire level.They do that by creating artificial buy and sell order on major crypto exchanges.

[inthelongrun]

It's always the whales that are trying to control and manipulate everything in the market. There is also the chance on them or some of them to lose but most of the time they are winning. It is all about deep pockets. 

[Red Fish]

Big players often manipulate with prices, to  get good profit, it comes from Forex market. I think that big players either have mining farms or they invested a lot of USD in BTC. And then they buy a lot crypto, wait for market price change and then sale, then repeat. It is simple buy and sale job. 

[Ekanenf]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

The reason behind that is for them to gain more profits, they are going to dump the coins that they are holding, and it will cause a dump for the market, many people will do panic selling, and they are going to buy back to have more coins, that is what you called whales. So, if you fall for that trick, it just mean you lost the fight, you lost your tokens, you lost your profit.

[KayceeMae]

I think the number of "bitcoin whales" is getting progressively smaller with time. This is one of the aspects of bitcoin that is appealing to me when I consider alt-coins. The number of early adopters holding thousands of bitcoins is becoming smaller and smaller. Every time there is a big sell-off, I imagine that there are holders of large numbers of bitcoins who are taking profit. As time goes on and the bitcoins become re-distributed among millions of people, each holding smaller amounts, the price will not be nearly as volatile. This fact puts bitcoin way ahead of all other alt-coins.

[zhekinsp]

Whales means the people holding the crypto currencies in big oortion and we all knows that the price of crypto currencies is based on the supply and demand so when they have huge amount they can increase and decrease the demand by selling and buying the cryoto currencies.

[crisanto01]

Whales means the people holding the crypto currencies in big oortion and we all knows that the price of crypto currencies is based on the supply and demand so when they have huge amount they can increase and decrease the demand by selling and buying the cryoto currencies.

Yeah they can actually manipulate the market and we cannot control them too, but those whales have an advantage as well as disadvantage too so don't worry much about them as you can go with their flow, you just need to focus on the market.

[angrynerd88]

A group of whale inject and withdraw investment massively which effect the market and most people get panic if market suddenly falls,this is the situation to hold with patience and never panic sell.Actually no one know the next step of whale but past history and events help to save money.

[mornabo]

A group of whale inject and withdraw investment massively which effect the market and most people get panic if market suddenly falls,this is the situation to hold with patience and never panic sell.Actually no one know the next step of whale but past history and events help to save money.

Yeah maybe it's done by them, whales usually have a very large amount of bitcoin, if they sell most of their coins of course it will affect the market, so in general they can manipulate with the amount of coins they have, especially if the news support it, of course price manipulation will be successful

[Scripture]

The whales usually manipulates bitcoin value by getting all their investment on crypto or by making a large investment in it. Regarding this, the crypto value becomes affected and goes up or down depending on what the whale do. The principle used is supply and demand.

[putrii]

in my opinion "whales" manipulate market price conditions by mocking prices when bad news instantly destroys bitcoin after it raise again and do it repeatedly.

[enawati]

I think whales has community and they work together to make the price pump or dump, usually they consist of early adopter that have athousand of BTC. Actually we can also make huge profit from it because the price will huge going up, and we need whales to do that.

[haroldtee]

A group of whale inject and withdraw investment massively which effect the market and most people get panic if market suddenly falls,this is the situation to hold with patience and never panic sell.Actually no one know the next step of whale but past history and events help to save money.

Actually from what I assume, it is usually like this!

Traders are trying to look out for the direction the market is tending towards which they obviously act on and with that, the whales after buying a lot at the bottom which is called accumulation phase, they tend to use some little amount left to push the market up.

Normally, there would be response to this by traders, investors, name them, and this stage the fear of missing out starts, they let this go on and in between it all, they sell from the little pumps, and buy back at some support levels with that little to move it up the more until they get to the main part where they feel satisfied, and then they distribute, sell and repeat the same process back down, which we sometimes call correction.

For a speculative market, low cap, where we even have a lot of wannabe traders, it makes their work even easier.

[iram3130]

If a group of whales starts manipulating the prices of a certain coin then it is highly impossible to know or understand the exact manipulation, traders will lose their money if they buy these coins in the pump.

[dekcutbusu33]

In the marketplace the only player can manipulate the price because of his great contribution and indeed no one can know when it will happen because only the hiyu fish knows about it. In the world of cryptocurrancy this is a big advantage that has a big investment.

[Golftech]

If a group of whales starts manipulating the prices of a certain coin then it is highly impossible to know or understand the exact manipulation, traders will lose their money if they buy these coins in the pump.

That's right, the whales have its own groups they can easily connect with each other and easy to take over, the price will simply pumped and new
comers will fomo and make their move to invest without knowing that they will be trapped, the whales will simply dumped everything when they
already feel that they've got a huge earnings.

[mrclark]

Whales has a power to dictate the trading market of particular coins. If you can spot this id means you are also a whales too. I only have general sense of that but i have some questions about it. This is an easy way for them to jake money. Is there a way to spot it? some of them to lose but most of the time they are winning. I think that big players either have mining farms or they invested a lot of usd in btc. It will cause a dump for the market.

[Supercrypt]

in my opinion "whales" manipulate market price conditions by mocking prices when bad news instantly destroys bitcoin after it raise again and do it repeatedly.

Except for a market where there is a real demand and daily life usage, there will always be whale activity driving the market. This is the reason why you see pump and dump even in some altcoins.

What they do is to play with the market in a way that would send the signals to traders or the likes, but one thing is that they know what they are doing, they already bought a lot during accumulation which makes it easy for them to drive the price up. If you are holding a huge position, it is just like eating cake, smiling as you see the chart movement and the response as it becomes so easy to rinse and repeat.

[rickadone]

The whales usually manipulates bitcoin value by getting all their investment on crypto or by making a large investment in it. Regarding this, the crypto value becomes affected and goes up or down depending on what the whale do. The principle used is supply and demand.

Not just bitcoin. As it can be any market as long as you have the bucks. It is easier though in the cryptocurrency market. All you just have to do as a whale is to look for a market that has bottomed out and you have the bucks to play with. Buy so much at the bottom, as much as you can, and then start using the rest of the bucks to push it up, response is normal when a market is showing sign of great movement and buying momentum, and in between those, you can keep driving it up the more you want and since you already bought a lot at the bottom, you are the winner at the end.

[Fedrey]

Whales has a power to dictate the trading market of particular coins. If you can spot this id means you are also a whales too. I only have general sense of that but i have some questions about it. This is an easy way for them to jake money. Is there a way to spot it? some of them to lose but most of the time they are winning. I think that big players either have mining farms or they invested a lot of usd in btc. It will cause a dump for the market.

I think that there is not a huge arithmetic here to guess how it all happens. it is thanks to its financial condition and a large number of crypto currency in its purses that these people are very active in influencing the market, regulating in their opinion the demand and supply of the crypto currency in the market.

[crptotrader007]

These whales are referred as the powerfull and rich company or individuals.These people's have loads of money and they put all there money in single coin and that makes drastic change in that particular coin.This change is Soo big and suttle that people tend to believe in them and they also start investing in them. And after that they also start putting there money to make prices increase more.After certain point these whales withdraw there whole amount and sudden dip happens...

[EdenHazard]

Depending on market conditions, on average I see them (whales) coming to the market if they have good information at least without them entering the market, cryptocurrency markets will go up. So they use this opportunity to outwit the users of cryptocurrency so that their steps are not suspected. In fact it is very easy for whales to get a big advantage in cryptocurrency, it's good if you are a trader joining with community signal to decide to sell or buy bitcoin and altcoin.

[Marcel555]

The whales are the major players, who hold a large percentage of the market.
There are various ways they can manipulate the market to either create panic or restore confidence.
In that way they control the market flow, and can lower the price and buy off at the bottom and then pump it and sell off at the top

[totholio]

The point of their action is to simply end up with more BTC, that requires FUD to initiate panic selling. Whales simply buy new things cheaper than 99% and then sell for profit. (VC, private sale)

[AdamRay]

Whales has a power to dictate the trading market of particular coins. If you can spot this id means you are also a whales too. I only have general sense of that but i have some questions about it. This is an easy way for them to jake money. Is there a way to spot it? some of them to lose but most of the time they are winning. I think that big players either have mining farms or they invested a lot of usd in btc. It will cause a dump for the market.

I think that there is not a huge arithmetic here to guess how it all happens. it is thanks to its financial condition and a large number of crypto currency in its purses that these people are very active in influencing the market, regulating in their opinion the demand and supply of the crypto currency in the market.

Whale investors are very wealthy people in the cryptocurrency market and when they target the coins they will buy a lot since it's very low value. As the market grows they will control the value of coins for their purposes, which is how many whales are used to dominate the coins.

[raven7886]

A group of whale inject and withdraw investment massively which effect the market and most people get panic if market suddenly falls,this is the situation to hold with patience and never panic sell.Actually no one know the next step of whale but past history and events help to save money.

They have the money to play out the market as they want and when you have a lot of money to play with a market that is even more speculative, it is somewhat easy to manipulate as a whale.

Whales buy at the bottom, and when they are doing this, they do not just hold few of those coins or tokens but a lot of it and as long as they do, it makes it so easy to start giving market impression by taking it higher and this is where traders who are educated gamblers get to kick in and start investing. So imagine yourself as a whale, even while driving the market up, you are still making a lot of money from that, let alone, what you have bought at the bottom.

[justdimin]

A group of whale inject and withdraw investment massively which effect the market and most people get panic if market suddenly falls,this is the situation to hold with patience and never panic sell.Actually no one know the next step of whale but past history and events help to save money.

Yeah maybe it's done by them, whales usually have a very large amount of bitcoin, if they sell most of their coins of course it will affect the market, so in general they can manipulate with the amount of coins they have, especially if the news support it, of course price manipulation will be successful

Obviously, it is done by them. Whales practically play with emotions and they make use of that with the technical indicators. They are vast in trading and they know what traders are always looking out for and in this way, they more like play with emotions, and let people believe exactly what they want to believe with respect to the market movement. What gives them an edge is the fact that the market is full of FUDs, speculation, and inexperienced traders, and to top it up, a decentralized market, what an easy market to play with when you have a lot of funds to do that.

[Siren]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

wHo told you that whales manipulating the market?is there any links that might support your accusations?if none better stop making discussions that has no proof

Though i have heard this alot of times that whales are the reason why prices are pumping and dumping but yet nothing to prove,theres a thread that tells US government are making action to bring to jail this crypto manipulators but it will took a long before this really happens

[XFlowZion]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

When there's a major movement in the market that is inexplainable then they are the people who are behind it. Injecting millions of dollars, dumping thousands of bitcoin and other things that only whales can fulfill. I know they experience lose too but they can recover it easily.

[stellgod]

A group of whale inject and withdraw investment massively which effect the market and most people get panic if market suddenly falls,this is the situation to hold with patience and never panic sell.Actually no one know the next step of whale but past history and events help to save money.

Yeah maybe it's done by them, whales usually have a very large amount of bitcoin, if they sell most of their coins of course it will affect the market, so in general they can manipulate with the amount of coins they have, especially if the news support it, of course price manipulation will be successful

Market is depending more upon the major factors and with the passage of time these factors change on different levels. The market demand and supply is the major rules for any product’s price or for the price of coins in case of crypto market. When more number of people is entering into the market with huge investments then the market starts improvement and goes high in value.

[Xardasim]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

The biggest reason for this is that the market value is low. someone with a lot of money (we call them ''whales'') enters the market and can change the direction of the candles as desired. However, when market value will increase in the future, whales will not do that.

[Pritt]

Cryptos, as any other asset listed freely on an exchange, can't avoid financial collusions.
Big players with big sums can control the market easily, regulating the volume of demand and offer. BTC is decentralized, but strong laws of rich and poor man works here 100% the same way as in any other sphere of life

[boty]

it seems that these whales who have very large trading capital and have a very long trading experience are very easy to manipulate the price at the exchange, just by using some bad news and good news to help the movement of the whales.

[breathlessz]

it seems that these whales who have very large trading capital and have a very long trading experience are very easy to manipulate the price at the exchange, just by using some bad news and good news to help the movement of the whales.

news greatly influences the movement of the market, so they use it to expedite the action. with large funds and driven by other traders who believe the news then they easily change the price

[RokokGudangGaram]

in my opinion "whales" manipulate market price conditions by mocking prices when bad news instantly destroys bitcoin after it raise again and do it repeatedly.

very true and it's just a whale game to control bitcoin prices. because if the price of bitcoin is so high then for investors who will invest the money it must think deeper because bitcoin is still in high numbers

[MMysterious]

Anyone that have lots of money can become a whale. So yes, there is the tendency that some of these whales will lose. Whales do battle it out too. This is not common because in every trading markets whales exists.

[canadinhano]

The point of their action is to simply end up with more BTC, that requires FUD to initiate panic selling. Whales simply buy new things cheaper than 99% and then sell for profit. (VC, private sale)

They spend a lot of their money to buy the coins and then the demand for them increases. The coins are getting bigger, so the collectors reach their peak, they will sell them at extremely high prices, after the sale. Their prices continue to decline because of the high supply. That's the whale's trick, and we can not do anything about them.

[otundebis]

Anybody can be a whale if you have funding that can change the supply and demand of the market!  Whales manipulation can take various form and shades!  Selling perpetually low on the ask side of the trade could set off panic selling whole they position themselves to buy low on the bid side of the market!

[TheUltraElite]

very true and it's just a whale game to control bitcoin prices. because if the price of bitcoin is so high then for investors who will invest the money it must think deeper because bitcoin is still in high numbers

You people even believe that the market metrics are just what has been posted on coinmarketcap and nothing else? There are lot of illicit trades going on which do not make any contribution to the charts and thus we dont see the biggest portion of the market where whales make the pump or dump actually. Whales are mostly staying away from the exchanges and work underground. They would not reveal how they got hold of that coins or how they are going to manipulate the market.

You people can keep on dreaming.

[annango]

A group of whale inject and withdraw investment massively which effect the market and most people get panic if market suddenly falls,this is the situation to hold with patience and never panic sell.Actually no one know the next step of whale but past history and events help to save money.

Yeah maybe it's done by them, whales usually have a very large amount of bitcoin, if they sell most of their coins of course it will affect the market, so in general they can manipulate with the amount of coins they have, especially if the news support it, of course price manipulation will be successful

Whales are known as an indivisual or a group of people that manipulate the market in their two scents. Whales are the big players in crypto maket. They have  a stagegy to own a huge amount of coins,  truly whales take advantage of the downward trend in the market so that they can buy so many coins with low price. Generally, if you feel panic or even can’t control your emotion when the market’s going down, you are more likely to buy with low, which give whales a chance to reap a huge fruits. Therefore, all of us should be more careful  in making decision to sell or buy .

[brontosaurus]

A group of whale inject and withdraw investment massively which effect the market and most people get panic if market suddenly falls,this is the situation to hold with patience and never panic sell.Actually no one know the next step of whale but past history and events help to save money.

Yeah maybe it's done by them, whales usually have a very large amount of bitcoin, if they sell most of their coins of course it will affect the market, so in general they can manipulate with the amount of coins they have, especially if the news support it, of course price manipulation will be successful

Whales are known as an indivisual or a group of people that manipulate the market in their two scents. Whales are the big players in crypto maket. They have  a stagegy to own a huge amount of coins,  truly whales take advantage of the downward trend in the market so that they can buy so many coins with low price. Generally, if you feel panic or even can’t control your emotion when the market’s going down, you are more likely to buy with low, which give whales a chance to reap a huge fruits. Therefore, all of us should be more careful  in making decision to sell or buy .

Whales refer to the investors who hold a large portion of the cryptocurrency to such an extent that they can affect the price of that cryptocurrency through their actions. When they buy or invest in some coin, the price rises which attracts other people also to invest. This further causes the price to rise. Then whales decide to sell their holdings and thus they claim their profit. This cause a fall in the price and investors start selling out their holding. This leads to a price crash thus an opportunity for the whales to buy the coin again at a low price.

[wildflower18]

Anyone that have lots of money can become a whale. So yes, there is the tendency that some of these whales will lose. Whales do battle it out too. This is not common because in every trading markets whales exists.

Yes this is right, whales do exists they are a big players in the market. Putting a buy wall as manipulating the market when the price down they are catching to buy more btc. So when the market ups and down whales really exists.

[s31joemhar]

Actually in life the more money you have the more power that you can get,
the whales or the wealthy person can control if there are many people can paid by them and get a huge demand in their favour.

[TheWolfCrypto]

Of course, there is a possibility that whales will lose money if they do not manage to sell everything at a high price. Manipulation is the sharp purchase or sale of a crypto currency.

[dunfida]

Actually in life the more money you have the more power that you can get,
the whales or the wealthy person can control if there are many people can paid by them and get a huge demand in their favour.

Money is everything when it comes to this industry and any people/individual or companies or corporations that do have capability or enough funds then they can always affect things on what they do like to engage on and since they do have the advantage among other people due to money power then manipulation would really be just easy for them. Its not only existing on crypto but these whales do exist on every investment traditional investment firms and businesses and primary target is to earn money more from their own money.

[danherbias07]

very true and it's just a whale game to control bitcoin prices. because if the price of bitcoin is so high then for investors who will invest the money it must think deeper because bitcoin is still in high numbers

You people even believe that the market metrics are just what has been posted on coinmarketcap and nothing else? There are lot of illicit trades going on which do not make any contribution to the charts and thus we dont see the biggest portion of the market where whales make the pump or dump actually. Whales are mostly staying away from the exchanges and work underground. They would not reveal how they got hold of that coins or how they are going to manipulate the market.

You people can keep on dreaming.

This is real.

I guess some people here will just say you are creating stories but this is real.
Coinmarketcap would not go that far or they will be running out of business.
Big players have to hide for it will be a problem if they are traced. Large amounts of money that should not reflect in the market outside.
That is why any analysis that have been done even those deeper ones wont have an accurate one. This is the reason. We dont see it all.

[mersal]

It is just simple,the people who have enough funds which can make certain changes in the demand of the crypto currencies are called whales,the people like them just start the short quick dump or bump by entering huge money into the market then people will act according to that then later they will sell their coins for higher prices.

[zanjerbits]

they put high support whenever they want to pump the coin and they also put high support during distribution, So you don't know when or what is the meaning of that support, if they already sell all their coin at distribution then its time for them to put sell wall to dump the coin. Meaning before dumping they already sold their coin. On the other hand they put Sell wall during accumulation, If their accumulated coin is already enough, Again its time for them to put support to pump it in order to sell at higher price.

[bitcub]

As the crypto market gets bigger.  It makes difficult for them to manipulate. They are also using FUD, and social media shills.

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

[Rufsilf]

Whales manipulate the market by creating fake volume or pump and dumps, if there is a sign that there is an uncommon pump or dump or increase or decrease in volume of a coin then there are whales that are playing the market. Whales manipulate the market to generate more profit which is enough for them to reach their profit goals.

[TheUltraElite]

As the crypto market gets bigger.  It makes difficult for them to manipulate.

Can you explain your how you arrived at this conclusion? If the market becomes bigger or say the market capitalization in terms of a fixed currency say USD becomes big then how would you measure the entire altcoin market metrics? If we take only bitcoin into account, as the USD price decreases in future, bitoin becomes the one of value and base currency.

They are also using FUD, and social media shills.

Without them the market would become very much stagnant. 

[soname12]

I do not know how to use the whales to manipulate the price of the market. But I hope that the government will intervene to manipulate the whale's Bitcoin price, sometimes the whale manipulative price of Bitcoin will cause many people to lose faith in Bitcoin.

[ajqjjj]

I do not know how to use the whales to manipulate the price of the market. But I hope that the government will intervene to manipulate the whale's Bitcoin price, sometimes the whale manipulative price of Bitcoin will cause many people to lose faith in Bitcoin.

If whales are just a common a holders in Bitcoin. But they are all buying more Bitcoin in 4 years ago so these are all make 100x profit in this scenario. I think not only whales are manipulate in Bitcoin because some banning issues are directly affect the Crypto market. So we need some legalization of Bitcoin Everything will recover.

[BlasterS]

Having a large slice of investment in the cryptocurrency they can easily manipulate the market,
the money is really a big thing can be used as power in order to control all systems in the whole world.

[baconlike]

They use the money and dominate the whole market, they buy lots of coins then stimulate demand. As the demand grows, the price of coins increases, so it is fixed that they will sell the coins at higher prices

[ubercool]

Imagine this, a coin with low volume gets an investment of 10-15 BTC in an hour. People will follow this trend as they feel it will go big as investors getting into it, where as in real, only 1 whale jumped into it. Its called manipulation.

[GalahadSeika]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

Whales are up to something that they will lose all or they will get more. Whales are those people that somehow we knew for 'manipulating' or stealing our money. Not much of stealing but getting a big portion of what we can have in the future years. They are controlling the prices of a particular coin. I don't know how or why, but that's how it goes.

[rawafe]

I´ve just read about it in a post and the resume is that whales are people or possibly a group of people working together to hold a large percentage of that coin and can use this to their advantage to manipulate the price of a coin to the desired price. Typically when this occurs "weak hands" will start panic selling so they can buy back into the coin at a cheaper price. Not always does his tacit work in the whales favor.

[CryptoCoin8487]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

I think whales realy can manipulate crypto base on there money and because if the whale buy a coins they can move the coins price into a higher price and if they want to sell all there holding coins it can also dump into zero because they are holding a huge amount in total.

[worle1bm]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

The major share of coins in this crypto market is owned by only a handfull of persons around the world and such persons having huge funds are termed as "whales" and they have power to manipulate the prices by creating pump and dump situation in the market by investing or withdrawing their funds. We can't do anything about this as we have no idea when they will do it.

[rumexx]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

The whales are the holders of bitcoins in large quantity some one can say to be a whale when he is holding between 500 to 1000,000 BTC. With this kind of BTC holding they can influence the market to suit their desire. Let us assume that  a whale release to the market about 400 BTC from his holding of 1Million BTC what do you think will happened to the market? ofcourse the market will react to the supply and force the price down because there is much supply against demand. The whales will quickly buy at the low price of the current market and cover up what they may have pumped into the market.

[JL421]

I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?

There are obviously a chance that they lose their money and for whales it's not like how it for us, they either make millions from manipulation of market or either lose millions if it doesn't go in there way.
What they normally do is buy a coin altogether at a low price and keep buying it from everyone thus causing the demand to rise and price to increase, then they wait for innocent people like us to buy and then sell to us at a higher price

[Bitkoyns]

let us say that the whales has the control over the price of a certain coin particularly the bitcoin they just simply buy bitcoins in a bulky way if they made it then the price raise up, then if they want to sell it in a bulky also it will lead to loss of value of bitcoin that is how they do the manipulation if it is really exist.

[Jeremiesaranza]

It's a tough question. If you understand how do they manipulate the market you can play those games with them and make a ton of money. But this is not everyone's power. In this matter, you need to understand how much you are willing to risk

[bocyaj]

It's a tough question.

It's not that tough one.They will buy a huge amount of coins,for consideration bitcoin.Hold their coins till the raise in the price.

If you understand how do they manipulate the market you can play those games with them and make a ton of money. But this is not everyone's power.

For that you need huge money to inverse in bitcoin.You have to hold and then sell at the maximum price.Then the price of bitcoin will start to reduce again due to the huge selling.Due to this,new traders will sell their coins at panic.You can easily get bitcoin at low price now.

In this matter, you need to understand how much you are willing to risk

The whales will take some risk to get your bitcoin at low price.

[TheUltraElite]

let us say that the whales has the control over the price of a certain coin particularly the bitcoin they just simply buy bitcoins in a bulky way if they made it then the price raise up, then if they want to sell it in a bulky also it will lead to loss of value of bitcoin that is how they do the manipulation if it is really exist.

The biggest manipulation is not in the market but in the social media. Whales and their gangs are notorious in spreading fud and making the market move in one direction while the whales take care of the other direction. For example, when a whales wants to gather a chunk some coin but the price is high they will tell their shill-army to FUD every social media about that coin while they themselves buy some of it in the midst of the selling pressure.

Its one of the basic methods of market negative publicity to get what one wants.

[stellgod]

I do not know how to use the whales to manipulate the price of the market. But I hope that the government will intervene to manipulate the whale's Bitcoin price, sometimes the whale manipulative price of Bitcoin will cause many people to lose faith in Bitcoin.

If whales are just a common a holders in Bitcoin. But they are all buying more Bitcoin in 4 years ago so these are all make 100x profit in this scenario. I think not only whales are manipulate in Bitcoin because some banning issues are directly affect the Crypto market. So we need some legalization of Bitcoin Everything will recover.

Yeah you are right, whales aren’t that much common investors in the market. There are hundreds and thousands of investors in this market that are totally focusing on bitcoin and other altcoins. But no one call them whales because they don’t have that much bigger portion in market that they can be able to manipulate things. They have got much influence in there.