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April 29, 2018, 10:38:07 AM
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When I joined this forum, I thought same as like you but recently I search some good merit received profiles and finally realized why they achieve merit. According to my understanding to achieve merit to our post;

We should have good English knowledge and Try to post interesting post/repost for increase quality of the forum.
Having knowledge about bitcoin, technical development, blockchain and security issues is useful.  
Also continuously posting into thread and reduce posting mega/Useless thread.
Update latest news relate to cryptocurrency and reduce posting bounty thread.

What if removed merit system? Then this forum will become useless. Every person will rank up by posting anything. Hence I believe merit system should exist. Should do some effort to achieve it. I also try to do my best for forum worthy to merit.

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April 29, 2018, 03:02:04 PM
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Hopefully ,but the others side it will give to me an improvement to learn and be kind of evereything that i post or reply, so i will do my best to earn merit and also you be  kind of everything that you post.

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April 29, 2018, 03:42:16 PM
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Congratulations for being so lame. If you wanted to make us laugh, then you already had failed. Using "Me" as if you want to tell us that your English is good and you just are being sarcastic. The merit system should not be removed and it already is a success, not to mention that it reduced lots of shitposts. So, if you want to be useful, do us a favor and do not post these kind of threads from now on. You have one merit point. Good luck on your journey.
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April 29, 2018, 03:51:56 PM
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Can be translated it as "Why are you not allowing me to rank up based on the amount of spam I create? This should stop right now! Me doing a hard work by posting so many one-liners every day and without the merit system, Me would have been a Sr.Member by now!"

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April 29, 2018, 04:16:17 PM
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I´m not a believer in the merit system as well, but we can not change it. A simple signature ban and all your spamming problems in this forum would disappear in seconds...

But i dont think anyone will change anything in the mind of the forum leaders, especially when every second Hero/Legendary is telling about the great success of the merit introduction (i dont see that).

There are some choices left:

1. Leaving the forum
2. Stop caring about the rank
3. Make some very "useful" infografics, which are loved by some merit holders  Undecided
4. Make some good posts and pray for the kindness of the creator of some "giveaway threads" (These guys have to feel almighty, because they registered a year earlier)
5. Make a big post with some grafics about the "Great success of the Merit implementation" (i bet, u get a merit for that)
6. Search the forum for evil spammers and report them in the many report threads. (Is it good for a forum, if one of the easiest way to earn Merits is to report others?)
7. Buy a btctalk account

I go with 2

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April 29, 2018, 04:50:30 PM
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I very much agree.
Because of the Urals rank using merit is very difficult in my opinion, my activity was more than 150 but keep my account member.
Not everyone will merit sharing them with us, there's even a group of people who only share with her group to raise their rank but does not share their merit with others.

Stop making conspiracy theories and making lies out of your own feelings. If you cant rank up then stop crying and move one. There will be a bit of favouritism among merit sources because its human nature. If you are unable to obtain merits - you cant do anything about it except moving on.

Can be translated it as "Why are you not allowing me to rank up based on the amount of spam I create? This should stop right now! Me doing a hard work by posting so many one-liners every day and without the merit system, Me would have been a Sr.Member by now!"
Well spammers can forget about that since those old days when people could farm accounts with posting one-liners everyday is long gone and such bottomfeeding shitposters should find some other source of income than spamming this forum with signatures.

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April 29, 2018, 06:29:09 PM
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personally me think merit system should not be there and ranks should be done via there post counts and quality of its posts
That's why you're crying out loud because you haven't receive any merits. HAAA! Maybe you should take a look and review your construction of statements before making some col posts and acting like you're the only one stepped on by this merit system. After realizing that, you know what to do  Wink
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April 29, 2018, 09:50:15 PM
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No, merit is good, but there should be another way, except get one from users. It's too random.

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April 30, 2018, 04:06:30 AM
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You can see having an Member account in this forum is a thing that's so hard now, Merit was created to decrease the bots, fake members who try to sell their account (this is high-risk trade which you can be scammed). Merit will increase quality of bounties and airdrops (things which people consider the most in this forum)
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April 30, 2018, 04:13:39 AM
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A simple signature ban and all your spamming problems in this forum would disappear in seconds...
And this solution has been suggested many times since I've been a member here.  It's not going to happen, since the forum generates large amounts of money via traffic, and I'd say most of the traffic is in the form of individuals participating in campaigns and bounties.  Nixing sig campaigns is off the table as far as I know.

I will say this yet again:  The merit system is far from perfect, and there are going to be abuses going on.  We've seen quite a lot so far, and we'll continue to see them.  But shitposters and account farmers used to have one hell of an easy time ranking up all of their alt accounts--all it took was time.  Now there's this quality variable, merit, which is relatively difficult to get and makes it extremely difficult to rank up 50 accounts (or whatever number). 

It's much better than the way the forum used to be, and I give props to Theymos for at least doing something to combat the shitposting epidemic, and I do think the way the merit system works is clever.

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April 30, 2018, 07:18:53 AM
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I agree with The Pharmacist that merit system has not been a fair, perfect system, but it has shown as effective took to fight against massive abusements in the forum. Merit system has been abused somehow by someone, but at least it has controlled most of spammers stucked at their current ranks.
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April 30, 2018, 08:59:22 AM
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No, merit is good, but there should be another way, except get one from users. It's too random.

I dont know what to say to this. This can be a good idea but what is criteria on which such merits would be distributed. Why not call it something other than merit? Something like Bitcoin-OP points? Grin It should be given at random to people who make good contribution to the forum but has nothing to do with ranking up.

You can see having an Member account in this forum is a thing that's so hard now,

Becoming Member is not that hard especially if you know how to post and where to post.

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Merit was created to decrease the bots, fake members who try to sell their account (this is high-risk trade which you can be scammed). Merit will increase quality of bounties and airdrops (things which people consider the most in this forum)
Merit was created to stop shitposters from ranking up. Please read the official post by theymos before commenting on the same. Account sellars and merit abusers getting caught - All these are the secondary effects of merit.

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April 30, 2018, 09:59:42 AM
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personally me think merit system should not be there and ranks should be done via there post counts and quality of its posts

as of its too hard for new comers too to gather merits from old members who always do trades and exchange merit only for them but the person who is new and if he dont has btc to exchange then its less chance for him even after posting quality post on bitcointalk forum

lol now dont give me merit for this i know the points which me said is true and many will agree Tongue

proof of merit abuse done on this forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3402060.0

me believe their's willy a huge lot of trueness in you's posts and you's hit nails on there heads.

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April 30, 2018, 10:47:29 AM
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You can see having an Member account in this forum is a thing that's so hard now, Merit was created to decrease the bots, fake members who try to sell their account (this is high-risk trade which you can be scammed). Merit will increase quality of bounties and airdrops (things which people consider the most in this forum)
Please stop moaning with your non-sense words. Have you spent your time to read the original announcement topic of Theymos on merit system and new rank requirements.
If not, you should not keep moaning here, and you should use search function of both Google and the forum to find the topic to read more.
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April 30, 2018, 11:57:39 AM
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A simple signature ban and all your spamming problems in this forum would disappear in seconds...
And this solution has been suggested many times since I've been a member here.  It's not going to happen, since the forum generates large amounts of money via traffic, and I'd say most of the traffic is in the form of individuals participating in campaigns and bounties.  Nixing sig campaigns is off the table as far as I know.



It's not. Theymos has previously stated that if the merit system doesn't work then they next step will likely be to remove signatures completely. Let's face it, this is the only way this will ever put a stop once and for all to the nonsense that is spouted here constantly all day every day. These people complaining about the merit system should just shut up and deal with it because if signatures are ever removed then 99.9 percent of them will leave the same day and never return so they should work with what opportunity they have right now until it's gone for good.

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April 30, 2018, 01:23:54 PM
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I very much agree.
Because of the Urals rank using merit is very difficult in my opinion, my activity was more than 150 but keep my account member.
Not everyone will merit sharing them with us, there's even a group of people who only share with her group to raise their rank but does not share their merit with others.

No one will really share a merit with you if majority of your posts is posted in spam megathreads. Expect it to get buried with more shitposts even if it is a quality posts which is 99.9% not gonna be that quality. Why would a member with a Smerit would attempt to read such mega-threads if answers would most likely had been repeated over and over. You can't expect a shiny red tomato to be picked while it is being surrounded by many rotten tomatoes that easily. Simple Smiley.
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April 30, 2018, 01:44:21 PM
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perhaps the merit system needs reform and revision for the newcomers, but the very idea of assessing the quality of posts is good. If you look at the statistics, the number of users on the form has doubled in the last year and the administration must somehow manage a huge amount of spam and garbage posts.



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May 01, 2018, 06:18:41 AM
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To me I think it should be left. At least it has succeeded in stalling everyone's ranking ability based on post and activities count. And some people have worked on their post quality and some others still hasn't learnt a thing from it. Instead of it to be removed they should be provisions for other methods of ranking or do you suggest it be removed and ranks remain at a point.
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May 01, 2018, 06:32:40 AM
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These people complaining about the merit system should just shut up and deal with it because if signatures are ever removed then 99.9 percent of them will leave the same day and never return so they should work with what opportunity they have right now until it's gone for good.

This is actually a great point, if these moaning fucks do not realise that then they will be in for a rude awakening. People either need to adapt and accept what we have or face the option of losing the meager earnings they currently are receiving

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May 01, 2018, 07:24:52 AM
Last edit: May 01, 2018, 08:23:20 AM by iconoclast
 #80

The merit system only rewards cheaters, sychophants and bullies.

Just look at the two most merited recent replies and you can see everything wrong with the current system.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topreplies

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3335861.msg35312088#msg35312088

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3335861.msg35359474#msg35359474

It is a giant human centipede with the high ranking members tongues rammed up each others anus's.

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