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April 27, 2018, 10:39:00 AM
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From the beginning of this pump in april I'm confused. All these runs seems fake and whale pumped and no new money is coming in. I get only bearish signals whenever i check charts but whales fuck all the TA and fundamentals. Can somebody with good knowledge clarify the scenario ?

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April 27, 2018, 05:47:35 PM
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We are filled with new short term investors that is why it looks like a fake one. But still that is an investment. They risked their money for that so you cannot blame them.
Strong holders are getting fewer, I am still hoping there is that group who will really believe in the future of crypto currencies. What do we know, one project out there could be in the making now that will shock the whole crypto world.
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April 27, 2018, 06:08:08 PM
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From the beginning of this pump in april I'm confused. All these runs seems fake and whale pumped and no new money is coming in. I get only bearish signals whenever i check charts but whales fuck all the TA and fundamentals. Can somebody with good knowledge clarify the scenario ?

you were confused because you made a move based on pure TA and fundamental analysis.
you should have seen something like this before right ? 'cryptocurrency is different compared any other conventional market,any TA and fundamental thing won't work'.
it's because cryptocurrency's market was pure manipulation,
it won't move based on TA and findamental analysis because the price was decided by some people/group or organization.
the reason why we're seeing a lot of bear because they wanted to create an uncertainty,
why they did that ? to maximize their profit and position.
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April 27, 2018, 06:44:29 PM
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It's not fake and I think the price was increased due to many great news about bitcoin.

New exchanges and new investors enter into cryptocurrency and the news about tax day.

These are the reasons why the price is increased a lot and it's normal to see that the price is increasing and drop after few days, if you know the history of bitcoin before and until now it's still the same as what the movement of the price before, the same as what happened this year.

That is why if you are a trader the basic thing you always do is to buy low and sell high because there's no exact time when the price will burst increase just like what happened last year after the block halving many people believe that the price of bitcoin will reach around $1,000, but they didn't expect that the price will increase more above $1k.

So, if you are one of any investors or a trader just keep buying when the price drops and sell again when the price increases and don't sell everything in your wallet just always backup few bitcoins if the price increases more.

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April 27, 2018, 06:49:28 PM
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Don't expect the market to rise in a very short term, It has increased from $6000 to $9000, that makes 50% gain. 50% gain is great if you buy at $6000 and you must be very satisfied with this rise.
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April 27, 2018, 06:50:41 PM
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From the beginning of this pump in april I'm confused. All these runs seems fake and whale pumped and no new money is coming in. I get only bearish signals whenever i check charts but whales fuck all the TA and fundamentals. Can somebody with good knowledge clarify the scenario ?

I always say that TA works until it doesn't. BTC is not only a tradable asset, but it's also a novelty on the market and has a steadily increasing, although limited supply. This is different than your typical stocks, that's why you cannot blindly follow TA. Now, about that new money, the market cap has increased this week, so new money had to come in. Even if it were to be the old money, the money that people got by selling on the way to 6k, it's still fine. I'd be very happy if we managed to recover 50% of what we lost in the first 2 months of this year.

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April 27, 2018, 06:51:32 PM
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From the beginning of this pump in april I'm confused. All these runs seems fake and whale pumped and no new money is coming in. I get only bearish signals whenever i check charts but whales fuck all the TA and fundamentals. Can somebody with good knowledge clarify the scenario ?

Didn't you know that no matter how well detailed TA is, how professional it was constructed, how well those lines explain some point etc. it can be spoiled once a trend started no matter whether to pump or to dump?

You don't need good knowledge to understand what is happening because all in all, as you understand the risks then there's no such thing you will be confused for every pump. Sometimes pointing the exact reason will just lead into more confusion resulting into lots of regrets decision or future plans.

My suggestion: learn how crypto market moves and consider TA for reference purposes or one of the factors before making an analyzation.

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April 27, 2018, 06:56:20 PM
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I'm still not convinced that this is the permanent growth and market could change any time. I don't have the feeling this will be steady rise and the begininig of new pump era.
It's true that new investors are coming into market each day but still I don't think they are so noumerous they could influence a price movement. To me it looks more like a classic volatility process with ups and downs.

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April 27, 2018, 08:30:04 PM
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From the beginning of this pump in april I'm confused. All these runs seems fake and whale pumped and no new money is coming in. I get only bearish signals whenever i check charts but whales fuck all the TA and fundamentals. Can somebody with good knowledge clarify the scenario ?

The growth won’t be constant, so you should expect the usual volatility that we historically see with these cryptocurrency markets.

It appears that Bitcoin and most altcoins are in the recovery since the crash, but there will be corrections and consolidation even in a recovery because investors and traders will be constantly buying and selling. It’s going to continue to be a dynamic market.
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April 27, 2018, 08:32:57 PM
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We are filled with new short term investors that is why it looks like a fake one. But still that is an investment. They risked their money for that so you cannot blame them.
Strong holders are getting fewer, I am still hoping there is that group who will really believe in the future of crypto currencies. What do we know, one project out there could be in the making now that will shock the whole crypto world.
actually the reason some people turn into short-term holders, that's because the price is more volatile, and is very risky when we hold in bulk ,, actually is not unbelieving to do the hoarding of bitcoin, but the advantage that can be on the short term trade more profitable
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April 27, 2018, 09:01:32 PM
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From the beginning of this pump in april I'm confused. All these runs seems fake and whale pumped and no new money is coming in. I get only bearish signals whenever i check charts but whales fuck all the TA and fundamentals. Can somebody with good knowledge clarify the scenario ?
Pertaining on how to know such situation then you wont really able to get those informations easily. Whales can really fucked up any technical analysis which do made by traders thats why it isnt really precise or right to rely on it fully because anytime price can change in a very very short span of time.This is why the market is way too volatile and very unrepdictable.We might see greens but later on we would able to see reds once again and if you are just day short trader you would really be fucked up by the market if you dont know on what you are engaging on.

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April 27, 2018, 09:26:04 PM
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Don't expect the market to rise in a very short term, It has increased from $6000 to $9000, that makes 50% gain. 50% gain is great if you buy at $6000 and you must be very satisfied with this rise.

Exactly, that's a good profit already but some people are still not contented about their earnings. Cryptomarket can pump easily by whales and you have nothing to do with that but to ride with those whales. This market will be go higher in long term, its hard to tell if you are just looking in a short period of time.
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April 27, 2018, 10:48:48 PM
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No one can predict exactly what the whales will do next. But in my opinion we should not care much, do not be too greedy in the Crypto market. When you hold a profitable coin you sell it for profit, so do not expect too high, they will drop at any time.

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April 28, 2018, 02:10:02 AM
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From the beginning of this pump in april I'm confused. All these runs seems fake and whale pumped and no new money is coming in. I get only bearish signals whenever i check charts but whales fuck all the TA and fundamentals. Can somebody with good knowledge clarify the scenario ?
Follow your own instincts, if your instincts are telling you that this is not a bull run and that this is going to end very soon, personally I have the same thoughts, I'm not an expert in trading but by looking at the news I do not see any reason for the price to go up significantly, not that it matters that much to me because I'm not going to sell or buy right now but still I like to watch the market from time to time and try to determine what it is going to happen.
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April 28, 2018, 08:05:48 AM
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With the market surging in recent days, this is a blow to the whale market of Crypto. If they depend only on supply and demand, prices will rise slightly and over time. In this case, the price of BTC suddenly rose, and stood at above 9k $. This is a very unusual thing.
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April 28, 2018, 08:36:14 AM
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Price action of Crypto is not fake, the price was move base on news that exist in the market. I see now the daily volume and market cap was increase so that mean any new money come to the market, just need more times for this crypto market and will be going all the times high again like before. Need more good news again and all big crypto will moon.

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April 28, 2018, 09:31:58 AM
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Because the market is still very young we are seeing s lot of panic buying when the price is low and then panic selling when the market is up. This is driving the daily 10% swings in the market lately. The market will soon stabilise and move on with time, we just have to be patient.
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April 28, 2018, 10:01:57 AM
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From the beginning of this pump in april I'm confused. All these runs seems fake and whale pumped and no new money is coming in. I get only bearish signals whenever i check charts but whales fuck all the TA and fundamentals. Can somebody with good knowledge clarify the scenario ?

it's because cryptocurrency's market was pure manipulation,
it won't move based on TA and findamental analysis because the price was decided by some people/group or organization.
the reason why we're seeing a lot of bear because they wanted to create an uncertainty,
why they did that ? to maximize their profit and position.

That's possibly like that, the market is controlled by some people / group or organization. If talking with alt coin, it is most possibly like that as a coin totally just in amount less than 1 billion USD. There are some people who own the fund more than 1 billion, surely they can control the price. But if talk with BTC, I think will be difficult to control the price except they are joined together. Just do a math for how much money required to control BTC price, totally around 17,000,000 x 10,000 = 170,000,000,000 USD. To control the market just need 100 billion USD, but I think now the big people is difficult to combine total amount of money with that value. I don't know if some trick to be applied then controlling BTC price just need much less amount.
If this case true, the price will be headed by them and we are here just to follow the movement.

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April 28, 2018, 10:26:48 AM
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Just invest in value, not the hype, bullshit etc. and don't be greedy you will learn to be patient and not to care about whether it is fake pump or not.

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April 28, 2018, 10:28:43 AM
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From the beginning of this pump in april I'm confused. All these runs seems fake and whale pumped and no new money is coming in. I get only bearish signals whenever i check charts but whales fuck all the TA and fundamentals. Can somebody with good knowledge clarify the scenario ?

Believe it or not the crypto market will become a multi-trillion dollar market. Yes it's very bearish, but its more promising than index funds by far.
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