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November 22, 2013, 12:52:40 AM
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I have 2 Jupiter units which I'm offering for auction. TOTAL OF ALMOST 1 TH/S. IN HAND and in UK.

Unit 1 has Die 0 issue and hashes 400-440 Ghps (at Bitminter)... obviously you can RMA if you wish
Unit 2 hashes average 560 Ghps (at Bitminter)... when kept warm (just in a cupboard, nothing special, currently 37 degrees Celsius in there as I type this)

Both running stably as described above for the (approx) 3 weeks since delivery, 980 Gh/s and making 0.9 to 1.1 BTC per day at bitminter.

Willing to provide any reasonable evidence of proof of ownership, performance etc to anyone who's bid I accept before any payment is made of course.

Happy to answer any questions and to receive bids via the open auction or PMs as you feel confortable.  I do have a reserve price in mind and so will not to sell if this is not met.  Willing to ship worldwide at buyer's cost.
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November 22, 2013, 01:27:32 AM
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I can offer you 11BTC each, I pay for escrow and you can use my Shipping account.
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November 22, 2013, 01:37:51 AM
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unit2@13 + I'll pay for Escrow.
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November 22, 2013, 01:41:40 AM
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unit2@13 + I'll pay for Escrow.

cancel that I calculated horribly wrong.. sry
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November 22, 2013, 03:09:44 AM
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11.5 for unit 2
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November 22, 2013, 09:06:23 AM
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20.0BTC for units 1 and 2 + shipping to Russia with DHL

take a picture your units...
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November 22, 2013, 10:07:28 AM
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Hello 120th -

As I said in the original auction post:

>>Willing to provide any reasonable evidence of proof of ownership, performance etc to anyone who's bid I accept before any payment is made of course.

i.e. Photos with your name in it, a newspaper... whatever it is that gives you the confidence you need.  Screenshots of cgminer verifying the hashing rates I've listed etc etc... whatever within reason.

If I agree a sale to you then just ask at that time...
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November 22, 2013, 10:40:20 AM
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By way of a quick update on the bids via PM:

35 BTC offered so far...
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November 22, 2013, 10:50:45 AM
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By way of a quick update on the bids via PM:

35 BTC offered so far...

LOL .. sell it to the fool !!! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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November 22, 2013, 11:01:29 AM
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35BTC = 25-26000 USD

Hello for buyer ... Sell ​​until he changed his mind ...  Grin
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November 22, 2013, 12:55:33 PM
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I guess, as human beings, we all think in the same flawed way... and much as we know it's about BTC, a high or low BTC price immediately makes us switch back into thinking about USD.

I know the USD/BTC rate has got quite high over the last week or so (though it has been as low as $500 in the last 24 hours) but for me this is a deal about BTC... if I keep the units and mine, I get BTC.  If you buy the units, you get BTC.  Your profit (or ROI as some here describe it) is in BTC.

Of course back to the frailty of the human psychology and, if we acknowledge this, I suppose it depends on where you got your BTC... if you have it, great.  Most people weren't selling at $100 and still aren't selling at $700... so it is what it is.  If you don't and have to buy it and say at $700 then that's down to where you believe the price will be next week, or in a month I guess and I guess this is where that kind of thinking comes in.

As I said, for me it's is the mining hardware cost in BTC worth what you expect to mine in BTC.  At 35 BTC I'd just keep the units and mine and be way ahead on the deal... regardless of whether BTC is $1 or $1,000,000.
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November 22, 2013, 01:00:07 PM
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Just keep the miners and mine with them. Don't waste your time here on the forum as you won't find people who are willing to overpay.

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November 22, 2013, 03:59:27 PM
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Allinvain... How does one get to be a 'Hero member' round here... by being a bit rude and dismissive towards new members and telling them 'not to waste their time on the forum'...? nice touch.  Grow up a bit.  If you don't want to bid then feel free not to.

The very definition of any trade, bargain, sale or deal is that nobody can possibly overpay.  Any reasonably intelligent individual will pay what they calculate to be fair or good value for an item.  And any seller will only accept what they consider to be a fair or good price.  What you, or any other party who has no interest in the trade or bargain thinks or would class as being over or underpayment is pointless.

Specifically on values for mining equipment, you may of course have a forecast (guess) as to what the likely yield or return will be for a given item.  Why would you imagine that your guess as to, specifically here, how many BTC a given miner will produce (your guess on likely future hash rates) is superior to some other party's guess... perhaps someone who might be a genuine bidder?  Is that potential bidder stupid (and so would therefore 'overpay' if they did bid) because they disagree with you?

You seem also to have missed the very core of the clear and more intellectual and relevant point here.  You feel, I guess, that 30 or 40 or 50 BTC is too much because USD/BTC is currently $780 USD.  Would 100 BTC suddenly be a great deal if USD/BTC crashed to $50 USD?  What about $5 USD?  If you are buying a miner in BTC and will get your yield in BTC then it matters not whether BTC is $1 or $1,000,000.

Perhaps you would kindly now allow us to return to the point.  This is an auction thread.  So I'd guess the only people who really should be posting are those who wish to bid or who have questions directly relating to the auction.
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November 22, 2013, 10:46:15 PM
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can items be collected in person?
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November 23, 2013, 12:44:12 AM
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Yes we may be able to make an arrangement... where are you located?

Obviously first things first -  please make your offer in the auction or via PM as you prefer and let's see where we get to.
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November 23, 2013, 02:03:02 AM
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By way of a quick update on the bids via PM:

35 BTC offered so far...

LOL .. sell it to the fool !!! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Some of these Jupiter's have gone for $15k or more on eEay recently.

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November 23, 2013, 02:08:06 AM
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By way of a quick update on the bids via PM:

40 BTC offered so far...
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November 23, 2013, 03:46:16 AM
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i would be extremely careful with any offer that high. they might attempt to scam. I do reccomend you take the offer though. 40 seems good.

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November 23, 2013, 03:47:05 AM
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actually 40 is insane, right now i can get well over 1TH/s for under that with other stuff...

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November 23, 2013, 10:05:14 AM
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Let's see... in the end the market decides price and only the buyer and seller finally determine what something's worth.

This has been an interesting day or two for me with plenty of people willing to suggest that the units not worth what people are bidding for them.  That plainly doesn't make sense.  Any bidder will have calculated value for themselves and will make an offer that they think is high enough to make me sell, and low enough for them to get a good or fair deal and a profit.

What's made it particularly interesting is that we all know that nobody else is actually selling or has recently sold any of these units for anything less than the kind of bids we're at now... in fact most have gone for 30-50% more.

There is little else available in truth beside the KNC units -  and everyone wants them because you just plug them in and that's it.  They work.  And those others that are available at present are clunky, complicated, geeky and held together with bits of string like some radio shack kit from the past.

Your caution on scammers is a useful reminder though.  I'm looking for a rare deal -  though these are some what more common in the real world away from bitcoin -  an honest seller who is selling exactly what he says he is, is willing to prove it, and a buyer who just wants to pay and get his goods.

I'm sure I'll find that... or be happy keeping the units.
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