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November 22, 2013, 04:57:08 AM
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November 22, 2013, 06:06:22 AM
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"Note: You're responsible for any activity through your addresses. To reduce fungibility of bitcoin and the entire concept of an ideal money for our modern electronic times, we recommend blocking transactions from bitcoin users who actually understand monetary theory."

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November 22, 2013, 06:11:32 AM
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How you can block transactions to a bitcoin address?  Huh
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November 22, 2013, 06:15:00 AM
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How you can block transactions to a bitcoin address?  Huh
i don't think you can.



where is bitcoin foundation?  why are they not actively trying to discredit COINVALIDATION?

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November 22, 2013, 06:17:38 AM
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They're in the bed screwing the snatch outa coinvalidation, didn't you hear?

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November 22, 2013, 06:26:48 AM
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You submit your private keys to CoinValidation and they remove coins from unvalidated addresses and escrows them until the sender validates, automatic in the case you use coinbase.
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November 22, 2013, 06:27:50 AM
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November 22, 2013, 06:34:45 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDflbF4NO54

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November 22, 2013, 06:43:09 AM
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We can't stop people from making lists of addresses.   We can bake coinjoin or similar privacy technologies into the most popular bitcoin clients to make those lists mostly useless.

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November 22, 2013, 06:55:04 AM
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where is bitcoin foundation?  why are they not actively trying to discredit COINVALIDATION?

So innocent, lets see the foundation is trying to help these people they don't care about privacy, only when it comes to their private forum. Otherwise they welcome this.

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November 22, 2013, 07:09:41 AM
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The single largest threat to the survival of Bitcoin today is the overt and covert attacks on the fungibility of Bitcoin.  If Bitcoin is not fungible then it is not a form of money.  It becomes a collectible with all the problems inherent in a collectibles market:

The need for an authority or authorities to tell you the value of each Bitcoin based on criteria set by outside influences with their own political, economic and social engineering agendas.

The need for and infrastructure to check with this central authority, or worse yet multiple authorities, every single time you do a transaction - so you don't get stuck with less than desirable coins.  Or even worse, the need to check in with a very complex market to value the coins on a “sliding scale”, if presented with less than desirable coins, so you can accept them at a discounted value.

Fragmentation of the market for Bitcoins:  a white market for the coins deemed clean by the authority or authorities and a black market for the less desirable, listed coins.

The core developers could consciously or inadvertently either maintain or destroy the fungible property of Bitcoin.

Help:  implement BIP32 as soon as possible in all clients in order to allow all periodic payments to be done in a fungibility supportive way.
         also everyone should use CoinJoin as often as you can, hopefully on every transaction.

Hinder: anything in the clients that helps in the formation, propagation or checking of any kind, color or flavor of lists of Bitcoins.

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November 22, 2013, 07:14:02 AM
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Whoever so starts to talk about bitcoin addresses defined as either validated or unvalidated addresses has demonstrably begun to feast on satan's cock.  Remember this.

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November 22, 2013, 07:15:34 AM
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This is going too far.
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November 22, 2013, 07:18:28 AM
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Is there an official statement from the Bitcoin Foundation on this specific issue?  I would like to see it.

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November 22, 2013, 07:19:29 AM
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Is there an official statement from the Bitcoin Foundation on this specific issue?  I would like to see it.

I don't think so, or it maybe locked up behind the guard garden which is their forum.

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November 22, 2013, 07:35:50 AM
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You submit your private keys to CoinValidation and they remove coins from unvalidated addresses and escrows them until the sender validates, automatic in the case you use coinbase.

So when i want someone to pay me i give them an address that coinvalidation controls? And then after sender's address is validated Coinvalidation sends me the coins to an address that has only validated outputs and if not they send the coins to one of my unvalidated addresses?

Do i get it right?

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November 22, 2013, 07:47:01 AM
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Is there an official statement from the Bitcoin Foundation on this specific issue?  I would like to see it.



Mike Hearn discussion on Reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1qmbtu/mike_hearn_chair_of_the_bitcoin_foundations_law/

Good article by @dannybradbury:
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-tracking-proposal-divides-bitcoin-community/

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November 22, 2013, 07:48:19 AM
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There is no motivation to end user submit anything there. Stupid idea.

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November 22, 2013, 07:49:32 AM
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Why aren't anti-coin validation advocates now demanding the implementation of Zerocoin into Bitcoin? With 98% smaller proofs the performance impact which was cited as the reason for not implementing it no longer exists, and it's going to launch as its own cryptocoin soon which could provide some real competition to Bitcoin if it's not implemented in BTC soon. The privacy provided by CoinSwap and CoinJoin don't come anywhere close to what Zerocoin offers.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?&topic=336514.0

At this point I'm also starting to think that it's conspiratorial that nobody is talking about this...

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November 22, 2013, 07:53:31 AM
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Doesn't it require a fork to implement ?   ....

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