[ANN] The CAT Report - Gains and Analysis - Trial ended - 01/12/2013 [ANN]

[Lebrick]

Welcome to the CAT report.


CAT Trial is now over - 01/12/2013

Due to the sudden influx of users and requests, Cryptsy is having some serious lag. This has a affected my test so I will do a new test once Cryptsy gets its servers installed.

What I am doing now is selling all my Coins left over to give a final report.



(OLD MARKETS: new markets down below)
The markets that i have picked are the current top 17 with the highest buy volume:
MEC, LTC, DGC, FST, BQC, WDC, QRK, TAG, ANC, KGC, FTC, XPM, ALF, EMD, SRC, GLD, CGB

I will be using an aggressive algo to start with, using a min % gain of 1%.

At the end of the 24hr Period I will take the time to break each stat down.

Market List: http://pastebin.com/rt9cZtb4

The report layout will be as follows:

XBT Before Trading Starts:
XBT After Trading Starts:
XBT At the End of Trading:
XBT According to Cryptsy:

Break Down of each Coin market gain and parameters:
-ping/pong mode
-algorithm
-min % gain
-individual gain for each market

Analysis:
Comments:

Gain log link:

Pastebin will host the gain logs as I don't want to cut it up, also due to Char limits.

If there is anything else that this report could use or doesn't need please leave a response.


UPDATE:

Trial is now back on, have reduced the markets down to 12 but have put more XBT into the trades, the new markets are:
ANC, LTC, WDC, GLD, PPC, NMC, MEC, QRK, XPM, SBC, TAG, PTS

Report Format has slightly changed, for the days to continue we will be using a rough guess for XBT balance.

Since I wont be selling coins I will be letting CAT run, the new gain will come from our starting balance according to Cryptsy minus the new Balance according to Cryptsy at the time I check.

XBT According to Cryptsy: same as below.
XBT According to Cryptsy at Start Time: this is my current average balance of all my coins, in the my balances page at Cryptsy.



25/11/2013 05:35am - Trial Begins

XBT Before Trading Starts: 0.20
XBT After Trading Starts: 0.00847601

XBT At the End of 24hr Trading: 0.08362706
XBT According to Cryptsy: 0.23290338
XBT After all Coins sold: 0.23502439
XBT Market Gain from Log: 0.04342916

XBT True Gain: 0.03502439

First Trade at: 2013-11-25 05:45:02
Last Trade at: 2013-11-25 22:09:26

Comments:
So CAT has frozen now and wont re-connect to Crypsty, will be letting Sampey know.
Have Cancelled all Current orders.
Version 4 wont connect either.
Will be pasting the gain log of what i have gained so far.
Will sell all coins now to start again.


Gain log link:
http://pastebin.com/cGF5Vw1c


26/11/2013 05:03am - Day 2

XBT Before Trading Starts: 0.23502439
XBT After Trading Starts: 0.01977339

XBT At the End of 24hr Trading: 0.06831155
XBT According to Cryptsy: 0.2672547
XBT Market Gain from Log: 0.02915698

XBT Gain According to Cryptsy: 0.03223031

First Trade at: 2013-11-26 05:04:58
Last Trade at: 2013-11-26 23:59:25

Comments: -


Gain log link:
http://pastebin.com/2Ays1zUz



27/11/2013 - Day 3

XBT At Trading Start Time: 0.06831155 @ 12:30am
XBT According to Cryptsy at Start Time: 0.2672547 @ 12:30am

XBT At the End of 24hr Trading: 0.19165865 @ 4:13am
XBT According to Cryptsy: 0.33304198 @ 4:13am
XBT Market Gain from Log: 0.03945681

XBT Gain According to Cryptsy: 0.06578728

First Trade at: 2013-11-27 00:16:04
Last Trade at: 2013-11-27 23:26:38

Comments:

XBT Gain according to Cryptsy may need to be worked on as it gives a higher value then CAT log, but this may be due to the fact I am now holding more ALT coins then before


Gain log link:
http://pastebin.com/Gs1hTKJj




28/11/2013 - Day 4

XBT At Trading Start Time: 0.19165865 @ 4:13am
XBT According to Cryptsy at Start Time: 0.33304198 @ 4:13am

XBT At the End of 24hr Trading: 0.18238828 @ 3:34am
XBT According to Cryptsy: 0.32033831 @ 3:34am
XBT after all Coins sold: 0.31568439
XBT Market Gain from Log: 0.01936703

XBT Gain According to Cryptsy: -0.01270367

First Trade at: 2013-11-28 00:02:10
Last Trade at: 2013-11-28 21:48:19

Comments:
It seams all the markets now are either slowing down or CAT has hit a spot that it cant PING from from, will be selling all ALT coins and starting CAT once again.

As you can see the last trade was executed at 21:48 which is about 5hrs of no trading from my current time 03:40.

Seams we had a loss, probably due the the ALT coin markets jumping around allot and CAT not being able to PING back.


Gain log link:
http://pastebin.com/4XhTw91Y



29/11/2013 - Is on - Day 5

XBT Before Trading Starts: 0.31568439
XBT After Trading Starts: 0.08031128

XBT At the End of 24hr Trading: 0.19839607 @ 03:48am
XBT According to Cryptsy: 0.33441196 @ 03:48am
XBT Market Gain from Log: 0.01644586 @ 03:48am

XBT Gain According to Cryptsy: 0.01872757

First Trade at: 2013-11-29 14:15:34
Last Trade at: 2013-11-29 23:46:19

Comments:
Cryptsy is terribly slow, will update this once it starts.
Will be Pausing Trials till Cryptsy adds new servers.

Started the Trial once again.

Was only a short trade day of 9hrs, still a good gain.


Gain log link:
http://pastebin.com/YVWpbnQm



30/11/2013 - Day 6

XBT At Trading Start Time: 0.19839607 @ 03:48 am
XBT According to Cryptsy at Start Time: 0.33441196 @ 03:48 am


XBT At the End of 24hr Trading: 0.22298399 @ 02:45 am
XBT According to Cryptsy: 0.35307773 @ 02:45am
XBT Market Gain from Log: 0.01106115

XBT Gain According to Cryptsy: 0.01866577

First Trade at: 2013-11-30 00:00:46
Last Trade at: 2013-11-30 23:28:55

Comments: -


Gain log link:
http://pastebin.com/5e3ur3Pe



01/12/2013 - Day 7 - The Final

XBT At Trading Start Time: 0.22298399 @ 02:45 am
XBT According to Cryptsy at Start Time: 0.35307773 @ 02:45 am


Final XBT At the End of 24hr Trading: 0.22288776
Final XBT According to Cryptsy: 0.32883235
Final XBT Market Gain from Log: 0.00519036

Final XBT after Coins sold: 0.34878153

Final XBT Gain According to Cryptsy: -0.02424538

First Trade at: 2013-12-01 00:29:14
Final Trade at: 2013-12-01 03:36:30

Comments:

Selling all Coins now may take a bit will update once that's complete.


Gain log:

Code:

2013-12-01 00:29:14:Buy 193.68274624@0.00013371 -> Sell 193.68274624@0.00013979 Gain 0.00104458 Fee 0.00013301 (0.00005179+0.00008122) Total Market Gain 0.01387931 Global Market Gain 0.03083330

2013-12-01 01:26:12:Buy 207.43878332@0.00013052 -> Sell 207.43878332@0.00013981 Gain 0.00178594 Fee 0.00014116 (0.00005415+0.00008701) Total Market Gain 0.01566526 Global Market Gain 0.03261925

2013-12-01 01:27:12:Buy 0.17268490@0.03800001 -> Sell 0.17268490@0.03849988 Gain 0.00005325 Fee 0.00003307 (0.00001312+0.00001995) Total Market Gain 0.00366449 Global Market Gain 0.03267250

2013-12-01 01:36:51:Buy 0.11000000@0.03800002 -> Sell 0.11000000@0.03849986 Gain 0.00003392 Fee 0.00002105 (0.00000836+0.00001270) Total Market Gain 0.00369841 Global Market Gain 0.03270642

2013-12-01 01:37:08:Buy 213.86343190@0.00013560 -> Sell 213.86343190@0.00013898 Gain 0.00057568 Fee 0.00014717 (0.00005799+0.00008917) Total Market Gain 0.01624095 Global Market Gain 0.03328211

2013-12-01 01:50:06:Buy 0.31094349@0.03500099 -> Sell 0.31094349@0.03600000 Gain 0.00025528 Fee 0.00005535 (0.00002177+0.00003358) Total Market Gain 0.00395370 Global Market Gain 0.03353739

2013-12-01 02:01:44:Buy 0.31094387@0.03599997 -> Sell 0.31094387@0.03657608 Gain 0.00012262 Fee 0.00005651 (0.00002239+0.00003412) Total Market Gain 0.00407632 Global Market Gain 0.03366002

2013-12-01 03:36:30:Buy 141.53011761@0.00021001 -> Sell 141.53011761@0.00021999 Gain 0.00131906 Fee 0.00009341 (0.00000000+0.00009341) Total Market Gain 0.01756001 Global Market Gain 0.03497908

[Shmoopy]

A couple of things I think are important:

-Which markets you use and how you chose them
-ping/pong mode you use
-algorithms you use (or maybe just the min % gain if you're doing aggressive)
-individual gain for each market (this is just an interesting stat, I think, because it will vary a lot)

I'd also like to see these because I choose my markets every day based on buy volume and run aggressive on 1.25% so I'm curious as to how other people set theirs up.

[Lebrick]

A couple of things I think are important:

-Which markets you use and how you chose them
-ping/pong mode you use
-algorithms you use (or maybe just the min % gain if you're doing aggressive)
-individual gain for each market (this is just an interesting stat, I think, because it will vary a lot)

I'd also like to see these because I choose my markets every day based on buy volume and run aggressive on 1.25% so I'm curious as to how other people set theirs up.

Good few points i will add them in.

I was going to use normal mode rather than aggressive but i can place a few on aggressive to get diff results.M y usual min gain is 1% - 2%.

How many markets should I run? Top 10 or 25 buy volume?

[Black.Dog]

  Really interesting, thanks!

[LiteMine]

What will you do with left-over orders (that haven't PONGed) each day - cancel them or ...?

I'm really glad you're doing this, I probably need a little help with my CAT.

[KunningLinguist]

What will you do with left-over orders (that haven't PONGed) each day - cancel them or ...?

I'm really glad you're doing this, I probably need a little help with my CAT.

The secret to a good CAT algorithm, don't tell. But I did push out a lovely 10% day yesterday.

[LiteMine]

Sorry, I just saw this 

XBT Before Trading Starts:
XBT After Trading Starts:
XBT At the End of Trading:
XBT According to Cryptsy:
XBT After all Coins sold:

Good luck with the test!

[Lebrick]

What will you do with left-over orders (that haven't PONGed) each day - cancel them or ...?

I'm really glad you're doing this, I probably need a little help with my CAT.

Im not sure about the left over coins im still deciding to either keep them for the next run or sell them and start with just XBT.

[Sampey]

What will you do with left-over orders (that haven't PONGed) each day - cancel them or ...?

I'm really glad you're doing this, I probably need a little help with my CAT.

The secret to a good CAT algorithm, don't tell. But I did push out a lovely 10% day yesterday.

Have you got a CAT Copy? I've never sell one to you   

[LiteMine]

What will you do with left-over orders (that haven't PONGed) each day - cancel them or ...?

I'm really glad you're doing this, I probably need a little help with my CAT.

Im not sure about the left over coins im still deciding to either keep them for the next run or sell them and start with just XBT.

I'm assuming your goal is to have it trading with a full amount each day, but not sure it's feasible if 'Coin A' declines overnight and you have a bunch bought at a high price, for example.

Which brings me to - if you cancel the Buy/Sell algorithm and the PONG trade, you don't lose anything, it just means you acquired coin at that price(?) Now you can use it again to trade if you take a small loss and start doing Sell/Buy on a downswing(?) I've been leaving my orders up to complete, but then I have less to trade with. So I end up "feeding" CAT a little coin each day to keep it going, but trading with less.

[Lebrick]

I'm assuming your goal is to have it trading with a full amount each day, but not sure it's feasible if 'Coin A' declines overnight and you have a bunch bought at a high price, for example.

When buying a coin at high price this is true, however there is a parameter in CAT to sell all if price goes below x.xxx amount, this may incur a small loss.

Which brings me to - if you cancel the Buy/Sell algorithm and the PONG trade, you don't lose anything, it just means you acquired coin at that price(?)

This is correct.

Now you can use it again to trade if you take a small loss and start doing Sell/Buy on a downswing(?) I've been leaving my orders up to complete, but then I have less to trade with. So I end up "feeding" CAT a little coin each day to keep it going, but trading with less.

What i have found so far is the best way to run CAT is 24/7, constantly stopping and restarting the program means it then has to redo all the orders and you wont know what you price you paid unless you check transaction history and that can take some time.

I still don't know if it should run 7 days straight or in 24hr periods.

[juve4v]

My advice is to run it 24/7 if you can. Also I feel you when CAT stops -due to powerloss, etc-, I've been many times through this having to check every coin's log for last traded price and restart CAT from where it was before the stop, but perhaps Sampey can add later a feature for this .

[Lebrick]

Trial has begun, OP updated.

[Lebrick]

CAT has now frozen 17hrs into trading, have notified Sampey so hopefully we can get back into the test soon.

First 17hrs of data is up haven't broken it all down yet. 

[Lebrick]

CAT is now working once again. Let the test proceed.

Day 2 has begun.

[shellbunner]

Thanks for doing this. I'm waiting for a response from Sampey to purchase a copy of CAT.
I appreciate the review.

[Lebrick]

Day 2 Complete and Data entered, will be thinking of a new way to get the True XBT gain.

[Lebrick]

Another Day has been entered.

Days comment:

XBT Gain according to Cryptsy may need to be worked on as it gives a higher value then CAT log, but this may be due to the fact I am now holding more ALT coins then before.

[Lebrick]

Day 4 Complete stats are up.


Days comments:

It seams all the markets now are either slowing down or CAT has hit a spot that it cant PING from from, will be selling all ALT coins and starting CAT once again.

As you can see the last trade was executed at 21:48 which is about 5hrs of no trading from my current time 03:40.

Cryptsy is also really slow at the moment.

[Lebrick]

Trial has once again begun, new markets have been chosen. Not 17 this time reduced to 12 but have put more XBT into the trades.