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November 25, 2013, 03:01:26 PM
Last edit: December 03, 2013, 06:35:15 PM by CoinGeneral
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Here are some next generation (5th gen/2014) miners I've been able to find in order from least gh/s to most gh/s:



Links to each one:


Feel free to add more.

If you buy one of these machines you will have a huge advantage over everyone else in this generation, at the same time though you won't be the only one buying them. Expect a huge amount of competition when you get these machines, and if you don't get one, you'll be out of the competition.

What do you think? Are you going to invest in these new generation miners or will you stay with your current models?

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November 25, 2013, 03:12:15 PM
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When are the next generation miners going to be released?

Also do you think there will be anymore cheap miners like the Asic Block Erupters that would sell for $20 a piece?

You do understand the current price of Block Erupter is not even $20 right?
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November 25, 2013, 03:18:24 PM
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When are the next generation miners going to be released?

Also do you think there will be anymore cheap miners like the Asic Block Erupters that would sell for $20 a piece?

You do understand the current price of Block Erupter is not even $20 right?

Just a few days ago they were selling for $15-$25 a piece, also the sentence reads "do you think there will be anymore cheap miners like the Asic Block Erupters that would sell for $20 a piece?" not "Did you know Asic miners sell for $20?"

Considering the only reason the prices of the asic miners are $40+ right now is because AM stopped producing them, if there were a new generation batch produced then the prices should be as cheap as they were before

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November 25, 2013, 04:13:26 PM
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real next gen:


No details. Coming SoonTM
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November 25, 2013, 04:27:27 PM
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real next gen:


No details. Coming SoonTM

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November 25, 2013, 04:39:00 PM
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www.bitmine.ch is selling nextgen 28nm, atleast one more EU company:(
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November 25, 2013, 08:52:12 PM
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So far what people who bought devices learned is that the devices are overpriced and it is much better investment to just buy BTC instead. By the time any of these devices come out, you would be lucky to make 3-5 BTC with them at most. Many will regret not buying BTC as an investment instead. There is no way for consumers to make any profit as long as manufacturers make huge farms with their new devices.

The game is rigged, your device immediately becomes worthless after release. This is why all the companies are having some pre-order scheme going on. It is just too late when you figure out your mistake.

So, why buy the device and bother listening to its noise when you can just buy BTC and look at it's value rise? I would only buy from a company which can ship the device the next day.

So, long story short, no I won't invest in these devices. Also not investing does not mean that you are out of the competition as long as you have BTC. You can let those companies compete with each other and cause increase of BTC prices and make more profit that way. (and if BTC crashes, it wont help if you have a device or not anyway so all the same...)
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November 25, 2013, 10:15:53 PM
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what about the BlackArrow stuff?
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November 25, 2013, 10:58:03 PM
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what about the BlackArrow stuff?

Just added a few of them to the list. Those things are going to put businesses out of business! Holy moly, 100 gh/s for $400?!?! That's insane!

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November 25, 2013, 11:18:23 PM
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There is the bitmine stuff too.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291141.new;topicseen#new

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November 25, 2013, 11:20:13 PM
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what about the BlackArrow stuff?

Just added a few of them to the list. Those things are going to put businesses out of business! Holy moly, 100 gh/s for $400?!?! That's insane!



i'll believe those when i see them....   
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November 26, 2013, 12:10:50 AM
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what about the BlackArrow stuff?

Just added a few of them to the list. Those things are going to put businesses out of business! Holy moly, 100 gh/s for $400?!?! That's insane!

Why don't they like group buys?
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November 26, 2013, 12:25:07 AM
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why in the world would u add BFL there?
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November 26, 2013, 12:40:23 AM
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why in the world would u add BFL there?

ouh yes! remove them! i hope no one is even thinking about to buy something from them!
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November 26, 2013, 12:52:04 AM
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why in the world would u add BFL there?

ouh yes! remove them! i hope no one is even thinking about to buy something from them!

Alright so the miners have now been placed in order of hashing power in ascending order. BFL has a warning next to it to warn any potential buyers of its bad reputation.

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November 26, 2013, 07:32:04 AM
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Neptune ?sounds interesting but i think i wont be more than 1 TH/s,if yes so it will be very expensive at this moment Cointerra is op and trustable company  Cheesy
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November 26, 2013, 07:48:40 AM
Last edit: November 26, 2013, 08:41:03 AM by Bicknellski
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Wasps & Hive

The Hives (Mother Planes)

On board USB hub with a port for each blade.
Upstream port connects to linux board or box.
At least one extra port for potential billboard display or local display & cooling-controller.
On board 24-pin and 6/8 pin connectors for PC power supply (650-750W) provides 3.3, 5, and 12 V.
Last blade connector can accept a server power supply (12V only) for higher power operation, not needed when system is tuned for low-power consumption, or when it has fewer than a full load of blades.
8 available connection points for the Wasps.
Any Wasp no matter the type of the chip will work with the Hives.
All blades driven through USB hub.
Stand-alone hive is just a small card with sockets for power and USB.
Hot swap will be added in 2nd or 3rd iteration of the hive.
Linux embedded system to run cgminer/bfgminer bolts right down onto big mobo.

The Wasps (Blades)

Wasps can slot into mother plane.
Wasps can stand alone and be stacked FPGA style.
Wasps are made to fit the mother plane form factor.
Wasps can be independently powered and controlled without mother plane.

28nm

A1 Wasp

Bitmine A1 Chips Available Mid to Late December
240 Gh/s Overclocked (6 chips); more likely, with untested chips, 200 GH/s per board

Nominal total 1.920 Th/s, for a single 48 chip hive (assuming that all chips are fully working AND overclock to 40GH - not really likely, but our software can get the most possible out of them).

Nominal likely total hashing from 50 chips (and this is all that Bitmine guarantees) is 48 x 25 = 1.2 TH on 8 boards

Minion Wasp

Black Arrow Minion Chips Available Late February

520 Gh/s Standard (4 chips) per Wasp maybe a 6 chip version could be worked out although there are hints higher hash numbers can be achieved per chip according to leaked information from the BA engineers.

8 slots x 520 Gh/s. Nominal total 4.16 Th/s; more likely lower but undetermined yet as to the max / min Gh/s per board.

Prices: Undetermined but you can do rough calculations based on the chip prices for the A1 and Minion and use Asian bog standard board fabrication prices for existing BitFury / Asicminer blades and backplanes as a rough guide.

Note: We will be selling licenses to those who wish to fabricate these boards. We will have a working prototype using BitFury chips by December the 13th, 2013. A1 Wasps could start production as early as Early January, 2014. Minion Wasps could start production as early as Late February and more likely Early March, 2014. Production depends on whether chips are shipped on time by Bitmine and Black Arrow.


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November 26, 2013, 06:52:27 PM
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the price on the Neptune is about $10,000.00 for previous customers.
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November 26, 2013, 06:57:33 PM
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the price on the Neptune is about $10,000.00 for previous customers.
  so 3.33 usd a gh times 3000 gh = 10000 usd

they say 2nd quarter .  well late 1st or second quarter .    so march 20th? to may 1st fits the bill.  a long way off.  still kn has made money for me so I may get me some

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November 26, 2013, 09:15:58 PM
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what about the BlackArrow stuff?

Just added a few of them to the list. Those things are going to put businesses out of business! Holy moly, 100 gh/s for $400?!?! That's insane!



i'll believe those when i see them....   

I'm confused, minimum order is 10, so is that 10 orders of 100gh miners so 1 TH in miners?

http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html 
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