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May 05, 2018, 12:55:13 PM
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Oh look, one of NorweiganNoob's alt?  Grin

I really do believe this to be the case.
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Do you guys believe that I and NorwegianNoob is the same person? That's fine.

Ontopic:
Fortunejack is still investigating my account. No news yet.
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May 05, 2018, 08:17:26 PM
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Oh look, one of NorweiganNoob's alt?  Grin

I really do believe this to be the case.
Offtopic:
Do you guys believe that I and NorwegianNoob is the same person? That's fine.

Ontopic:
Fortunejack is still investigating my account. No news yet.

Can you post your last convo with them?

The emails or whatever to support your claims and to show us that they actually did demand an IP from 2 years ago?

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May 06, 2018, 04:38:52 PM
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Oh look, one of NorweiganNoob's alt?  Grin

I really do believe this to be the case.
Offtopic:
Do you guys believe that I and NorwegianNoob is the same person? That's fine.

Ontopic:
Fortunejack is still investigating my account. No news yet.

Can you post your last convo with them?

The emails or whatever to support your claims and to show us that they actually did demand an IP from 2 years ago?
Sure, it's in post #7.
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May 06, 2018, 06:50:59 PM
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Oh look, one of NorweiganNoob's alt?  Grin

I really do believe this to be the case.
Offtopic:
Do you guys believe that I and NorwegianNoob is the same person? That's fine.

Ontopic:
Fortunejack is still investigating my account. No news yet.

Can you post your last convo with them?

The emails or whatever to support your claims and to show us that they actually did demand an IP from 2 years ago?
Sure, it's in post #7.

I don't find a quote that can be made up as credible... I was referring to emails or such things... Making a quote is easy as f...

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allahabadi is the best FJ player in history ever PERIOD

See, it wasn't that difficult.

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May 07, 2018, 05:15:32 AM
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I don't find a quote that can be made up as credible... I was referring to emails or such things... Making a quote is easy as f...
Quote from: Fortunejack
allahabadi is the best FJ player in history ever PERIOD
See, it wasn't that difficult.
I understand that my low post count is not helping my credibility.

I've now taken a screenshot from my Gmail, I hope this clears any previous doubt.
https://postimg.cc/image/8encpk94b/
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May 07, 2018, 05:49:58 AM
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I don't find a quote that can be made up as credible... I was referring to emails or such things... Making a quote is easy as f...
Quote from: Fortunejack
allahabadi is the best FJ player in history ever PERIOD
See, it wasn't that difficult.
I understand that my low post count is not helping my credibility.

I've now taken a screenshot from my Gmail, I hope this clears any previous doubt.
https://postimg.cc/image/8encpk94b/

Now it does look more credible and very disturbing as to how FJ can expect people to remember such minute details... This is simply stalling, unless they have a better explanation...

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May 07, 2018, 09:16:39 AM
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FJ faces too many accusations in the recent days about withdrawal issues and most of the people saying it needs too long to approve the pending transaction and their answer for this is they have only one person who can approve all the transactions but it is weird,a reputed site have only one person to transaction approval.

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May 07, 2018, 12:45:20 PM
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To ask for a 2 years old IP address of course has no legal basis and $11,000 are definitely worth to enforce your claim through legal action.

Is there a public statement from FortuneJack?

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May 07, 2018, 01:26:08 PM
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I don't find a quote that can be made up as credible... I was referring to emails or such things... Making a quote is easy as f...
Quote from: Fortunejack
allahabadi is the best FJ player in history ever PERIOD
See, it wasn't that difficult.
I understand that my low post count is not helping my credibility.

I've now taken a screenshot from my Gmail, I hope this clears any previous doubt.
https://postimg.cc/image/8encpk94b/

Now it does look more credible and very disturbing as to how FJ can expect people to remember such minute details... This is simply stalling, unless they have a better explanation...
But FJ are trying to ignore these kind of issues which might ruin their reputation soon,they also had two cases against them for paying very lately to the participants but now they paid it,this is also the same case here,but providing the two year old IP address is a tough task though. Shocked

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May 07, 2018, 01:30:51 PM
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I don't find a quote that can be made up as credible... I was referring to emails or such things... Making a quote is easy as f...
Quote from: Fortunejack
allahabadi is the best FJ player in history ever PERIOD
See, it wasn't that difficult.
I understand that my low post count is not helping my credibility.

I've now taken a screenshot from my Gmail, I hope this clears any previous doubt.
https://postimg.cc/image/8encpk94b/

Now it does look more credible and very disturbing as to how FJ can expect people to remember such minute details... This is simply stalling, unless they have a better explanation...
But FJ are trying to ignore these kind of issues which might ruin their reputation soon,they also had two cases against them for paying very lately to the participants but now they paid it,this is also the same case here,but providing the two year old IP address is a tough task though. Shocked

I don't see any indication in that email that they are asking for a 2 year old IP. They might be asking for A IP address but perhaps any that you've used over the last 2 years?

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May 07, 2018, 01:35:03 PM
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I don't find a quote that can be made up as credible... I was referring to emails or such things... Making a quote is easy as f...
Quote from: Fortunejack
allahabadi is the best FJ player in history ever PERIOD
See, it wasn't that difficult.
I understand that my low post count is not helping my credibility.

I've now taken a screenshot from my Gmail, I hope this clears any previous doubt.
https://postimg.cc/image/8encpk94b/

Now it does look more credible and very disturbing as to how FJ can expect people to remember such minute details... This is simply stalling, unless they have a better explanation...
But FJ are trying to ignore these kind of issues which might ruin their reputation soon,they also had two cases against them for paying very lately to the participants but now they paid it,this is also the same case here,but providing the two year old IP address is a tough task though. Shocked

I don't see any indication in that email that they are asking for a 2 year old IP. They might be asking for A IP address but perhaps any that you've used over the last 2 years?
In an earlier email as you can see in my previous post they wrote "registration IP" as one item they need to verify my identity.
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May 07, 2018, 02:11:31 PM
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The screensheet says that the IP address does not match, do you usually use a VPN? in fact it should not be such a problem.



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May 07, 2018, 02:21:24 PM
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The screensheet says that the IP address does not match, do you usually use a VPN? in fact it should not be such a problem.
I don't use a VPN. I gave them my current IP-address since I don't have anything else to give.
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May 07, 2018, 03:19:57 PM
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I don't find a quote that can be made up as credible... I was referring to emails or such things... Making a quote is easy as f...
Quote from: Fortunejack
allahabadi is the best FJ player in history ever PERIOD
See, it wasn't that difficult.
I understand that my low post count is not helping my credibility.

I've now taken a screenshot from my Gmail, I hope this clears any previous doubt.
https://postimg.cc/image/8encpk94b/

Now it does look more credible and very disturbing as to how FJ can expect people to remember such minute details... This is simply stalling, unless they have a better explanation...
But FJ are trying to ignore these kind of issues which might ruin their reputation soon,they also had two cases against them for paying very lately to the participants but now they paid it,this is also the same case here,but providing the two year old IP address is a tough task though. Shocked

I don't see any indication in that email that they are asking for a 2 year old IP. They might be asking for A IP address but perhaps any that you've used over the last 2 years?
In an earlier email as you can see in my previous post they wrote "registration IP" as one item they need to verify my identity.
Since he failed to find that IP which might be two year or two months old but what is the alternative process to get his funds back,is there some other option or if he failed then his account will be frozen forever?
The screensheet says that the IP address does not match, do you usually use a VPN? in fact it should not be such a problem.
I don't use a VPN. I gave them my current IP-address since I don't have anything else to give.
You may not be aware of VPN while registering because lot of browsers are coming with inbuilt VPNs so you may used that kind of browser.

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May 07, 2018, 03:25:23 PM
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You may not be aware of VPN while registering because lot of browsers are coming with inbuilt VPNs so you may used that kind of browser.
Yes, I'm aware of that, however I'm not using one. Standard google chrome without any such extensions.
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May 07, 2018, 03:48:12 PM
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You may not be aware of VPN while registering because lot of browsers are coming with inbuilt VPNs so you may used that kind of browser.
Yes, I'm aware of that, however I'm not using one. Standard google chrome without any such extensions.

In my case it would be impossible to give an IP... My ISP uses a Dynamic IP address router and only after you file a complain can you obtain the IP addresses used by you...

I dunno if a stuck transaction on an online casino will qualify as an appropriate reason to gain the IP addresses. The ISP is a govt run and has long and unruly procedures...


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I don't see any indication in that email that they are asking for a 2 year old IP. They might be asking for A IP address but perhaps any that you've used over the last 2 years?

Since none of the sign holders represent FJ, I think it's very important for FJ to systematically dispel this FUD... They can simply State what all information they need and deny any lies... So far I haven't seen them do that, which surprises me...

                       

P.S. Looking at this, I feel a Decentralized Casino is very much needed that can only host games and not the funds of the investor...  Huh

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May 08, 2018, 07:37:05 AM
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You may not be aware of VPN while registering because lot of browsers are coming with inbuilt VPNs so you may used that kind of browser.
Yes, I'm aware of that, however I'm not using one. Standard google chrome without any such extensions.

In my case it would be impossible to give an IP... My ISP uses a Dynamic IP address router and only after you file a complain can you obtain the IP addresses used by you...

I dunno if a stuck transaction on an online casino will qualify as an appropriate reason to gain the IP addresses. The ISP is a govt run and has long and unruly procedures...
So they need to have some procedure which can actually done by the users to get back his locked account.These kind of complications in the security measures sucks.
I think the solution in this case by check the current IP address of that user with that register IP address by FJ support team.If both are same then they have to return the account back to the user.

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May 08, 2018, 02:46:39 PM
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Hi Limpitz,

David here to help you. I am really sorry to hear the story, can you please tell me your FJ username, so I can run down the issue with our Security Team? Do not worry, I want to hear your story and will do my absolute best to help you out. Checks might take some time,in worst case couple of days, but everybody on BTC TALK knows, that if there player is right, we always stand for players position and solve the issues at any cost.

Cheers,
David.
A couple of days have now gone past.
Any updates here?
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May 08, 2018, 09:07:27 PM
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P.S. Looking at this, I feel a Decentralized Casino is very much needed that can only host games and not the funds of the investor...  Huh
Not sure how that would work... some sort of Escrow for gambling? At some point, the player is still going to need to "trust" someone. It also means that the casino would need to trust the Escrow service as well... which given the amounts that are likely to be involved is going to be a tough sell.

Personally, I feel that if the casinos have so much faith that "same IP" == "multi account"... then they need to either prevent accounts from being created from the same IP's... or they need to prevent accounts from the same IP from transferring funds to each other or earning referrals from each other. I don't see why this can't happen if they're already using supposedly automated "security systems" to lock withdrawals when this sort of thing happens.

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May 09, 2018, 12:49:54 PM
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Curiously, the problems only occure in case of withdrawals!

When you deposit and lose 100 Bitcoin, there is never a problem with IP addresses or duplicate accounts.

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