Merit Farming

[kalidos]

example of what you call translation
one month thread with 4 replies of the same Shitcointalk and 64 view , which mean nobody has visited thread beside Shitcointalk  .

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3753825.msg39482284#msg39482284


im not a translator and dont try to attract me to your dirty game.


this french section is your playground all four, play there as you want
but to try to influence on all the forum to exonerate a merit farmer, and to encourage this kind of practice, then, allow me to intervene and say halte.

I do not see the utility of posting in a dead forum section where you and your 4 boyfriend spam all day long with ANN that have no interaction beside your own replies .

have a little conscience and objectivity because

Greed is a bottomless pit which exhausts the person in an endless effort to satisfy the need without ever reaching satisfaction.  

when I posted in this thread I was well aware that the 4 friends will try to burn me alive and I know what you are capable of

Be assured that I am not trying to burn anyone. That would be a pretty sad goal. Read my post again and you will see that I even agree with Oscar's redtrust.

I also agree that french section is a huge mess. Sadly, yes. But if you are being honest, and if you really read it, you should also know that the same John is trying his best to make it better. Something that, if I am being honest as well, I can't say about you after reading at your post history. You support the french section or you don't, whatever. But if you do, don't bite the hand that feeds you.  

It is also a nice quotation you wrote there, even though I am not sure why you posted it here. And wearing a signature makes it a bit ironical.
What is also unclear is the purpose of your post in the first place. Have you been redtagged for one of those poor translations we tagged last week ? It was all well deserved by the way, so if you are trying to defend cheaters who barely speaks french but try to do some translation work, you will have some hard time (for those who woudn't know about that, 10 cheaters accounts were heavily redtagged a few days back because of their poor quality work. It can be found HERE).  

Come on, don't be ashamed, tell us what it is all about ?

[Shitcointalk]

example of what you call translation
one month thread with 4 replies of the same Shitcointalk and 64 view , which mean nobody has visited thread beside Shitcointalk  .
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3753825.msg39482284#msg39482284

Yes, it is one of my work. Anything to do with the subject ?

im not a translator and dont try to attract me to your dirty game.

Well, that's good.

this french section is your playground all four, play there as you want

Take a look at our altcoin section, I saw many names in there. And we are the first one to ask to separate [altcoin discussion] and [ANN thread].

but to try to influence on all the forum to exonerate a merit farmer, and to encourage this kind of practice, then, allow me to intervene and say halte.

Back to the topic after all. You think they deserve redtrust, so just make your point. No one said you couldn't.

Bye.

[Randolf007]

I don't know if something can be done, but I will report here my findings...
Already report to the moderators also.

When I saw someone claiming their rank has increased to Full Member in a bounty thread I found that strange!!
(nowadays is practically impossible to rank up)

When I check the merit page I saw that the user has received 73 merit points from the same person...

asche | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1580039
oscar2000 | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=377987

In a further analysis, Becassine also received 50 merits from oscar2000 from a normal post.

Becassine | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1224889

this is a big disaster for people who get a gift in a bad way. bad ways that will affect his account.
can be a lesson for all of us, to be careful.

[kenzawak]

I am a reader of the french section of the forum

No you're not. 30 and something posts lol ? Nice gimmick !
I don't know who you are but I'll find out and when I do we'll talk again... probably here in this very same topic.
You clearly have an agenda here.

You can try to drag me (us) into this, you'll fail.
Everything we've done (getting rid of fake translators) was done in the open... and approved by DTs :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4404879.msg39190052#msg39190052

So I'd say you're either one of those fake translators or one that profits from what we did and wants to get rid of the rest of the competition.

With all due respect, I suggest the mods have a closer look at your account... they'll spot a real cheater there.

Anyway, nice try. I like how you tried to make this a thread about something completely different from what it was at first.
Nobody cares about your biased opinion, maybe we would if you posted with your real account.

[asche]

example of what you call translation
one month thread with 4 replies of the same Shitcointalk and 64 view , which mean nobody has visited thread beside Shitcointalk  .

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3753825.msg39482284#msg39482284


im not a translator and dont try to attract me to your dirty game.

Hello,

Maybe we  can stay on topic here?

You can criticize the way bounties are working, but I doubt very hard that this is relevant here.

Even though you might be right, some projects aren't read by anyone, but others are used a lot, at least to gather information.

The fact nobody is posting is actually usefull to some since this avoids all the shitposts which only goal is to "up" the topic and get attention. Since you don't do that as a translator you just have the valid information left.

Not everyone has the chance to translate the Ethereum ICO and get the corresponding attention.

[asche]

Is there somewhere where I can ask to disable the possibility to receive merit ? As an active french member, I'm afraid by this "serial merit giver" who prowl in our local board. He has the power to destroy our accounts reputation only with one click !

I like your irony.

Through your actions, you are just offering the possibility for every legendary who don't care about his account to destroy the reputation of the accounts of his choice. It's a strange sense of justice.

In a theoretical way your point is still valid though.

[Jet Cash]

Nobody is going to use enough merits to make a difference, unless you do something to really annoy them of course. In that case, it would be more productive to use the trust system.

[asche]

Nobody is going to use enough merits to make a difference, unless you do something to really annoy them of course. In that case, it would be more productive to use the trust system.

Not sure I understood what you are saying 

[kenzawak]

I am a reader of the french section of the forum and my conscience obliges me to give my opinion on an absurd situation that johnuser and some 4 members try to make reign on the french forum:

Wanna play ?
I'll give up to 10 merits to whoever can find out what your other alt accounts are.
My conscience obliges me too sorry.

[Mister k]

Here we go again...

First : what does a complaint about the way French handle fake translators in the French section do on the Merit farming thread ? We don't have a real mod there, we have to do things by ourselves to debunk them, and I think we did it the good way : everything is in the open, every complaint is documented.

Second : your profile accounts for 35 posts, half of them in English, half of them in the Arabic section. What about participating a bit in the French one before complaining about what happens there ? Or maybe you participated under another username and as a "translator" ?

I am a reader of the french section of the forum and my conscience obliges me to give my opinion on an absurd situation that johnuser and some 4 members try to make reign on the french forum:

It only concerns the translation problem, it is a bit restrictive to consider this as the whole French section, don't you think ?

johnuser tries to make caid or warlord in this section with sordid and despicable methods, he threatens certain members to give them collective redtrust with the help of his band and his affiliate, and promised to other remove their redtrust just acquired as the case of ashe,

here he threat the people who do not come to give him a hand in his little war:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439129.msg39538917#msg39538917

j'ai besoin de vous.

ou on retourne il y a un an quand je me démerdais seul, mais la je ne vous aiderez plus

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3470328.msg39538594#msg39538594

et je vais tag les gros, sans pitié, la vérité avant tout.

another

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439129.msg39541038#msg39541038

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3470328.new#new
je suis déçu +++

moi je risque mon red sans cesse, peut m’importe

ashe ne mérite pas son red

kenza l'espoir que tu m'as redonné est retombé net, french.. comme quoi seul yang S a osé se mouiller comme moi, sans doute pour ça ..

another time I say that this person is a mental patient who tries to become the king of the French forum in every way possible and imaginary , sometimes with the power of collective redtrust that he has on the other hand by putting pressure on other members to express the ideas he wants.

Ok, well, so now you're a psychiatrist ? 
(and please can you tell me under which username you said that ? I'd be curious to know...)
John is maybe the only person that has tried to clear the French section, and to be a mod instead of the one that's reported "missing" since more than a year.
He might be a bit clumsy in his way of saying things, but I guess that if I had tried to do what he tried to do, for as long as he did it, I'd be fed-up with all that too.

I found myself out of me seeing this sordid act of this person and his little band in this French section already dead and not active section of forum bitcointalk :

affiliated members to johnuser and driven by johnuser: Shitcointalk, ashe,

kenzawak
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1082600

the wife of kenzawak Mister k:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1379635

ps: ashe is a 26 years old woman

Really ? Pleaaaaaase !
I'm old enough to make my own decisions, no need of anyone for that.
Once more : I only post concerning the translation problems, I never post about anything else on the French section.

I do not see the utility of posting in a dead forum section where you and your 4 boyfriend spam all day long with ANN that have no interaction beside your own replies .

have a little conscience and objectivity because

This one you'll have to explain to me, because I really don't get it at all.

If you're talking about this thread, I mean the Farm Merit one, I think John came back on it because he wants to right some things that he perceives as wrongs.
But then, what are those ANNs you're talking about ?
And... well I already said it in the French section : you might say "lady" or "girlfriend" when talking about a woman if you want to, but "boyfriend" definitely doesn't apply to me.

when I posted in this thread I was well aware that the 4 friends will try to burn me alive and I know what you are capable of

I don't even kill a bug or a spider, I'm not ready to burn someone alive.
Tear him to shreds virtually thanks to words... well, I'm not bad at this, but I must say you ask for it.

example of what you call translation
one month thread with 4 replies of the same Shitcointalk and 64 view , which mean nobody has visited thread beside Shitcointalk  .

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3753825.msg39482284#msg39482284

Well... maybe people don't read the French ANN anymore because there has been so much bad translations posted there that they are afraid to lose their time ?
And post an ANN thread and update it... I guess that's what the BM has paid him for.

im not a translator and dont try to attract me to your dirty game.

So why don't you even give a fuck about all that ?
And make me lose my time by the same way.

this french section is your playground all four, play there as you want
but to try to influence on all the forum to exonerate a merit farmer, and to encourage this kind of practice, then, allow me to intervene and say halte.

OKKKKK... you've got quite a devious mind I might say.
And once more : a single topic concerning the French translator is not quite the same thing that "all the forum".


Once all this said...
When I read the structure of your sentences, the way you think and the fact that you implicated me (or in fact all the persons you implicate), if you add to that the fact that you have posted in the Arabic section too, I'm ready to make a wild guess : aren't you an alter for my dear friend rggadi ?



To the mods :
I debunked rggadi as a fake translator in the French section (based on his so-called "work"). He didn't like this at all and tried to come back to me : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439129.msg37998549#msg37998549
But all he managed to do is to look even more ridicule, so I guess he thinks he finally found a way to avenge himself.

If you ever need a quick summary of what's going on with this (even if I really don't see what it's doing in this thread), I'd be happy to provide it to you, as I'd be happy to translate all my posts in the French translators thread to you if needed.

[kenzawak]

To the mods :
I debunked rggadi as a fake translator in the French section (based on his so-called "work"). He didn't like this at all and tried to come back to me : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439129.msg37998549#msg37998549
But all he managed to do is to look even more ridicule, so I guess he thinks he finally found a way to avenge himself.

If you ever need a quick summary of what's going on with this (even if I really don't see what it's doing in this thread), I'd be happy to provide it to you, as I'd be happy to translate all my posts in the French translators thread to you if needed.

Holy shit, I missed that. I had the Arabic board on "ignore" which is why I didn't see this in his post history.
So yeah Kalidos is probably rggadi lol.
Meeeh... enough said, the guy's a tool who got frustrated because we exposed him as an obvious Google translate user.
And no, we're not just 4 claiming his work is shit :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1254969

Anyway, back to the real matter here, sorry.

[kenzawak]

As for the topic in question, here is what we know :

-asche is not oscar. Everybody in the French community can confirm that.
-asche is smart, I don't see him "accepting" those merits without knowing of the consequences. He knew he would get caught eventually. But what can he do ? Create a thread here saying "I'm sorry, I don't deserve the merits, take them back, I hope you won't tag me for it" ? So I don't believe in the theory that he paid or even asked for the merits. You read his posts, he's not stupid... nobody is that stupid.
-oscar well... he is something else. Doesn't speak English, doesn't care much about anything including the value of his account.

Which leads me to what we do not know : everything !!!
Did Oscar try to setup asche ? Did oscar just play randomly without caring about what would happen ?
WE DON'T KNOW .

But the thing is asche is an asset to the French community.
You tag him ,we lose one of the best translators there. And he also translates in German !

The fact is oscar is not asche . The rest is pure speculation by someone... well someone who probably thinks he will get merits himself (huh Carlos ?) .

[JohnUser]

I just delete my post cause I'm tired with cheater that try to make me the bad guy, see above...

Do your job kenza, I did enough. It's your time.

thanks @missk, mister k was a bad idea ;)

[Becassine]

I am a reader of the french section of the forum and my conscience obliges me to give my opinion on an absurd situation that johnuser and some 4 members try to make reign on the french forum:

johnuser tries to make caid or warlord in this section with sordid and despicable methods, he threatens certain members to give them collective redtrust with the help of his band and his affiliate, and promised to other remove their redtrust just acquired as the case of ashe,

(...)



affiliated members to johnuser and driven by johnuser: Shitcointalk, ashe,

You're a newbie with 35 posts at the time and we don't even know if you really read and understand french (maybe not) and you are giving an opinion about the french section ? It's a joke

Some members in the french section are trying to make it clean and attractive for newbies, there are no king or affiliate members as you wrote, I read stupid things but that it's obviously the most, which is as the same time disgusting. Everyone knows all that Johnuser made to help newbies and to improve the french section.

I don't translate because I don't have time and it's not my job but I love my french language, as many others it makes me upset when I see so many bad, very bad translations, thinking that people can even be paid for that ...

Yes some french translators are really fighting against spammers, what's wrong with that ?

You're a poor little jealous shit and nobody cares about your opinion.

[Halab]

Thanks Johnuser to show us this topic. It always funny to see Zorros  from the forums.

Things I am about to write will not change your mind, but I must tell you that on this subject: you are wrong.
But I agree Oscar2000 gave his merits in a stupid way for a stupid reason.

But you judge from numbers, from stats.
It would have been nice to know the people and understand them before condemning them.
It would have been nice to see the history of everyone's posts.

But it's hard to understand when you don't speak the language.
You could have contacted a trusted Frenchman to get his opinion. I don't know: the French mod for example ?
Errr wait, we don't have a French mod !! 3 posts in 2018. Wow !

Instead of burning fake witches, help us move Theymos' ass on this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4423278.msg39454678#msg39454678

And kalidos, come put your balls on the French forums instead of drooling your bile here.

[JohnUser]

1st you say I'm wrong

then you give same opinion.

[asche]

1st you say I'm wrong

then you give same opinion.

Not sure the "you're wrong" was meant for you. Thought so at first too but I believe he is adressing Vod/others, and not you John.

[coinlocket$]

Did you guys started tagging the merit abusers? Just to know so I can post 70+ cases

[JohnUser]

Did you guys started tagging the merit abusers? Just to know so I can post 70+ cases

did you get school and learn to read ?

edit : asche; maybe I don't care.

[Halab]

Not sure the "you're wrong" was meant for you. Thought so at first too but I believe he is adressing Vod/others, and not you John.

Yes, sorry if I wasn't clear. "You are wrong" was for Zorros and Judges Dredd